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  1. #31
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    Send photo of ring off to Nash Jewelers in London Ontario, to their Goldsmith. Asking for some help, and maybe they can direct to the right place to find out who made this ring.


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    http://www.missingadults.ca/viewCase...-1995-06-01094

    I keep coming back to Holly Painter when looking at the UID. The timeframe works in comparison to the shirt (1995 is when Holly disappeared). I don't know anything about the "Save the Rouge Valley System" project she was working with, but the Rouge Valley Conservation Centre is only 40 minuets from where the UID was found.

    I don't see, nor read anything about a prior broken nose and no indication if there is any evidence on the UID about a prior broken leg. FWIW, Holly's link is above.


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  5. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Based on timing and area, I think this one is a good candidate,especially if the men"s shirt and large ring belong to someone else.I am wondering if there are any more uid's, yet to be found in the area.
    I agree based on two things, both the victim and missing person had some fillings, and the missing person can be traced to the area (traveled and attended college in Canada). Due to the remains being skelatalized not sure how accurate the drawing is and even with morgue pictures they are off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by masnitram View Post
    http://www.missingadults.ca/viewCase...-1995-06-01094

    I keep coming back to Holly Painter when looking at the UID. The timeframe works in comparison to the shirt (1995 is when Holly disappeared). I don't know anything about the "Save the Rouge Valley System" project she was working with, but the Rouge Valley Conservation Centre is only 40 minuets from where the UID was found.

    I don't see, nor read anything about a prior broken nose and no indication if there is any evidence on the UID about a prior broken leg. FWIW, Holly's link is above.
    I can see why she would be a candidate, seems to me like she meet with a bad end from the missing adults website but her teeth are described as perfect. The UID had protuding teeth, as someone who spent years in braces, that would have been fixed. Timeline is good and it is likely she meet with foul play but the teeth keep bugging me.


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    Masnitram, you could well be right. So Holy Ann Painter Date of Dissappearance 26 June 1995, it kind of takes away from the valentine theme gift package, but who knows, it could have been off a gift, of sorts. Maybe the heart was some kind of a keepsake of hers. Maybe you should email or give a call to the unit that in charge of all of these cases. Added 2 pictures of Holly Painter here too.
    I have been trying to fit hair and this time some make up to add colour to the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by masnitram View Post
    http://www.missingadults.ca/viewCase...-1995-06-01094

    I keep coming back to Holly Painter when looking at the UID. The timeframe works in comparison to the shirt (1995 is when Holly disappeared). I don't know anything about the "Save the Rouge Valley System" project she was working with, but the Rouge Valley Conservation Centre is only 40 minuets from where the UID was found.

    I don't see, nor read anything about a prior broken nose and no indication if there is any evidence on the UID about a prior broken leg. FWIW, Holly's link is above.
    Last edited by DEEA; 11-29-2010 at 09:06 PM.


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    Jane Doe with bangs and long dark hair

    Jane Doe and Holly Painter. I don't know what to think.
    The Jane Doe just looks older, that could just be me.
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    The last one has me thinking Holly Painter too, but you are right about the dental records. They have to match up and of course there is DNA I hope they can get that. Can they check her DNA against the family of Holly Painter. It costs about one hundred dollars per test and takes a few weeks. But that would take the guess out of it. And who is to say, she was not kept for a period of time, prior to her death. But the narrow bottom jaw, is most in fitting with Holly Painter. (I had braces and I still have an overbite, but still much less than if I hadn't) She did have braces, but it does not mention fillings. She looks to have an over bite in the two photos. Left leg - healed fracture from 8 years prior. Not mentioned in the Jane Doe. Sounds like a lovers quarrel, between Holly her male friend and female friend. Hearts and red ribbons? Who knows.
    Last edited by DEEA; 11-29-2010 at 09:36 PM. Reason: needed to add a comment


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    A Canadian missing persons site has a thread dedicated to Holly Painter; a very interesting read.

    http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,430.0.html


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    The Toronto Star Nov 17 2010 article says "The uniquely large size 9½ ring is a garnet with two one-point diamonds on either side, and is believed to have been sold by Burns Jewelers, a family-run business on Simcoe St. in Oshawa from 1923 to 1994. It had been made by A&A Manufacturing in Toronto.
    Nash calls the ring “unique” for its large size and he believes it will be the “key piece of evidence” in the case as it is distinctive and shows enough wear that the woman kept it on her finger more than in a jewellery box."

    http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/ar...olve-cold-case

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    From the Toronto Star article. “We are considering everything from 1979 right up to 2006,” said Nash, believing the wider time frame will help jog someone’s memory of a person they may not have even thought was missing or dead.

    “There’s a good chance this person was never reported missing to the police,” he added


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    Here is the response I received from the OPP for the possible match submitted the other day...

    Thank You for your Email. To the best of my knowledge this name has not been submitted for comparison. I have forwarded the information to the Investigators.
    Thank you for your interest in this case.
    I've replied asking the Constable if there is a list of MP that they've already ruled out. We'll see what response I get.


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    I received a message back about my request for a list of those MP that have already been ruled out and this is the response that I received.
    Unfortunately I can't provide you with a list of names that have already been submitted. First of all I don't have an entire list as the investigators have their own list. Secondly it is against procedures to release the names. It is not a problem to submit a name that has been provided in the past. First of all, every tip is forwarded to the investigators whether it has been submitted in the past or not. Sometimes it is good to have a second look.
    Thank you for your continued interest.
    So, it sounds like we just keep looking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazel View Post
    Everything looks different when looking from high above. Judging from one of the articles, her remains were not easy to be found:

    A man harvesting dogwood plants called police on his cellphone when he stumbled across a skull in a boggy field at Holt Rd. and the South Service Rd., just off the eastbound 401 exit near Bowmanville, on Oct. 27, 2006.

    Forensic officers cleared tall grass and weeds for weeks and were only able to find the skull which had two missing teeth, a few other bones, a wristwatch and a piece of red ribbon.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/ar...n?bn=1#article
    <bbm in red>

    Don't know precisely where our Darlington Doe was found in relation to this, but ... if you do a Google Streetview of that intersection, on what I believe is the southeast corner where ITER was to be situated, there is a large white billboard that says "Ontario Power Generation ..." (formerly Ontario Hydro).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEEA View Post
    The Toronto Star Nov 17 2010 article says "The uniquely large size 9½ ring is a garnet with two one-point diamonds on either side, and is believed to have been sold by Burns Jewelers, a family-run business on Simcoe St. in Oshawa from 1923 to 1994. It had been made by A&A Manufacturing in Toronto.
    Nash calls the ring “unique” for its large size and he believes it will be the “key piece of evidence” in the case as it is distinctive and shows enough wear that the woman kept it on her finger more than in a jewellery box."

    http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/ar...olve-cold-case
    Garnet is the birthstone for January.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TechWriter797 View Post
    Garnet is the birthstone for January.
    Garnets and Rubies are often mistaken for one another, JA who disappeared in February was born in July.


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