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    OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #6

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    2 kids & 2 adults are missing. Kody Maynard (10), Tina Herrmann (32) and Stephanie Sprang (41).
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    is it just me or does today seem to be dragging on?

    It must be 1000 times worse for the families of Tina, Kody & Stephanie.
    What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean.
    But if that drop was not in the ocean,
    I think the ocean would be less because of that missing drop.
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    Where is Rachel Cooke? Missing since 10-Jan-2002
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    Cubby, thanks for putting links to all the threads!

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    http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_articl...storyid=159071

    AKRON -- An expert in serial killers believes Matthew Hoffman, charged with kidnapping and a suspect in the 3 mssing people near Mount Vernon, will be a unique challenge to police because his crime is so unusual.

    Dr. Mary E. Myers, an associate professor at the University of Akron, teaches a course on serial killers and is a retired Akron Police Captain.

    Myers believes that Hoffman's eight years behind bars most likely led to an anti-social personality which makes his future behavior unpredictable.
    Thanks to Texas Mist for posting this article just before the fold in the last thread.

    BBM - It bothers me that he says this, because I suspect another expert could very well argue that the antisocial tendency was well established before MH spent time in prison. I don't think prison "led him" to it AT ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grayjay View Post
    BBM - It bothers me that he says this, because I suspect another expert could very well argue that the antisocial tendency was well established before MH spent time in prison. I don't think prison "led him" to it AT ALL.
    I agree. Furthermore, I hate quotes like this. Dr. Myers is making these statements from the scant information available from the media, some of which are statements from neighbors possibly looking for a few minutes on television, rather than accurate observations.

    I really, really hate psychologists, doctors, and profilers who make statements to the media about cases because they aren't privy to the the full information necessary to even back up the claims they are making.

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    Hi, all, I'm a few day behind due to hospitalization. Have they checked the basement of TH's house?

    Does anyone else remember the case where the family was missing but they were deceased in the basement but no one looked down there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grayjay View Post
    http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_articl...storyid=159071



    Thanks to Texas Mist for posting this article just before the fold in the last thread.

    BBM - It bothers me that he says this, because I suspect another expert could very well argue that the antisocial tendency was well established before MH spent time in prison. I don't think prison "led him" to it AT ALL.

    MH did spend a considerable amount of time in prison, eight years, when you think that he was only 20 years old when he went in so who really knows. I wonder what he was like before he went to prison. It would be interesting to see prison reports on what kind of inmate he was in prison, his behavior and such. But he clearly had major problems before he ever went to prison. I think that the article posted by TexasMist makes an excellent point. The expert said this crime poses a unique challenge for LE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpRising View Post
    Hi, all, I'm a few day behind due to hospitalization. Have they checked the basement of TH's house?

    Does anyone else remember the case where the family was missing but they were deceased in the basement but no one looked down there?
    hope you feel better real soon!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul125 View Post
    MH did spend a considerable amount of time in prison, eight years, when you think that he was only 20 years old when he went in so who really knows. I wonder what he was like before he went to prison. It would be interesting to see prison reports on what kind of inmate he was in prison, his behavior and such. But he clearly had major problems before he ever went to prison. I think that the article posted by TexasMist makes an excellent point. The expert said this crime poses a unique challenge for LE.
    I think being a retired police captain would have a lot of insight to dangerous criminals & the horrible crimes they commit.

    I don't agree either that going to prison caused any personality disorders tho -- I think it fueled him w/ more rage making him more dangerous on release.

    Wish we knew why Myers thinks going to prison could cause APD.
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    Ohio city consumed by search for missing family

    http://www.heraldnet.com/article/201...WS02/711179693

    Published: Wednesday, November 17, 2010
    Ohio city consumed by search for missing family
    By Jeannie Nuss And Andrew Welsh-Huggins, Associated Press

    MOUNT VERNON, Ohio — People in the tiny Ohio town of Mount Vernon used to have to think back years to recall a violent crime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul125 View Post
    MH did spend a considerable amount of time in prison, eight years, when you think that he was only 20 years old when he went in so who really knows. I wonder what he was like before he went to prison. It would be interesting to see prison reports on what kind of inmate he was in prison, his behavior and such. But he clearly had major problems before he ever went to prison. I think that the article posted by TexasMist makes an excellent point. The expert said this crime poses a unique challenge for LE.
    Someone posted up-thread (last thread?) that MH did have incidents while in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpRising View Post
    Hi, all, I'm a few day behind due to hospitalization. Have they checked the basement of TH's house?

    Does anyone else remember the case where the family was missing but they were deceased in the basement but no one looked down there?
    Hope all is better now, Scorp.

    I think it's safe to say LE checked the basement -- that's where Sarah was found.

    Sheriff Barber made a comment in the presser today about them not getting much sleep, and Knox County seems to be working very hard on this case & they've got lots of help from the big guns: OSHP, OBCII, FBI, and LE from surrounding counties.

    I hope they get enough evidence against Hoffman soon so he can be pressured into talking....I don't think he'll talk until there's something in it for him- like avoiding the DP.
    What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean.
    But if that drop was not in the ocean,
    I think the ocean would be less because of that missing drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul125 View Post
    MH did spend a considerable amount of time in prison, eight years, when you think that he was only 20 years old when he went in so who really knows. I wonder what he was like before he went to prison. It would be interesting to see prison reports on what kind of inmate he was in prison, his behavior and such. But he clearly had major problems before he ever went to prison. I think that the article posted by TexasMist makes an excellent point. The expert said this crime poses a unique challenge for LE.

    Someone posted his prison report in the last 2 threads somewhere it listed how many reports he had filed on his and stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    Hope all is better now, Scorp.

    I hope they get enough evidence against Hoffman soon so he can be pressured into talking....I don't think he'll talk until there's something in it for him- like avoiding the DP.
    It's hard for them to do that with these numbers, though. Prosecutors will sometimes spot you one to recover a body, but three would be a little much.

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    many profilers will tell you that when you're looking for a sexual predator, and I know we don't know that yet to be true in this case, but their crimes often start with simple peeping, then burglary , and then assualt....then murder....

    your personality is pretty much fixed by the time you are 5 yrs old....granted, 7 yrs in prison for a soft looking young man must have been horrendous....

    I suspect that MH has been an active criminal for many years....probably early on in life and when he was out of prison...

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