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  1. #16
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    great job Carl. I'm not that technologically advanced.

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    IMO, I think it's close enough to call in.

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    I emailed the contact person listed in the Doe Network page with the possible match.

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    Browsing through the NamUs file for this UID, I found an interesting comment (Under Phisical/Medical - Foreign Objects):

    NamUs UP Case 3123 Warning Postmortem photos at link
    https://identifyus.org/cases/3123

    This victim was shot in the chin with a BB in the past.
    Kenneth LaManna's B&W Age 18 photo shows that he has an apparently naturally dimpled chin. But look at Kenneth's chin at age 19:



    It is very swollen on the left (viewer's right) side of his chin, and there appears to be some redness on the chin. The dimple appears to be obliterated by the swelling. Could this be the result of a BB injury?

    And another thing - In Kenneth's NamUs UP casefile, it indicates the following (under Physical - Scars and Marks):

    Kenneth LaManna - NamUs MP Case 3399 https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3399/6/

    Kenneth has a scar on his arm from when he fell from a tree as a child
    Although there is no indication of an arm scar in the UID's NamUs page, the postmortem photo reveals what appears to be a very long scar running from his right shoulder across his right pectoral nearly to his right nipple. There is another zigzagged apparent scar on his right shoulder, and possibly a very long "L" shaped apparent scar on his right bicep (at the very left of the photo that was taken more from the side).

    These apparent scars are not mentioned in the "Scars and Marks" section, although there is a mention of "1 small circular scar on left ankle" (which could have been acquired during the 4 years after his disappearance, or may have been too small to mention)

    Two questions:

    (1) Could this be the same scar?
    (2) Could the dimpled chin (or BB wound) be partly the reason for his choice to grow the chin-beard?
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-12-2012 at 10:20 PM.

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    Carl,

    Definitely swollen. The injury might have resulted in a hard cyst or even keloid scarring that could have made the swelling appear permanent and the asymmetry could cause a young man to feel self-conscious and want to grow a beard.It is such an odd beard for that time period.
    "Wherever she went, including here, it was against her better judgment."~ Dot Parker

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    wow, I had not even seen the BB reference nor had I noticed the dimple.

    they could be one in the same and yes that was an unusual style for the early 80's so it might have been cover for a wound.

    It would be nice to close two cases - CT and AR but who knows? Kenneth is as good a match as any and this one's been a mystery for them for 26 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    ... and yes that was an unusual style for the early 80's so it might have been cover for a wound.
    Also, in addition to the dimpled chin, Kenneth had a fairly weak looking chin, and the chin-beard would be a way to make his face look longer. Also, the hairstyle is a good cover for big ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    I emailed the contact person listed in the Doe Network page with the possible match.
    I'm not sure which contact you e-mailed, but since I have dealt with Chris Edwards (State of Arkansas ME) on other cases, I called him regarding this case to increase the possibility that this will get looked at from one end or the other.

    I caught him while he was on his way home. He said that he didn't have any autopsies scheduled tommorow, so he said he would look at it tomorrow. He does recall this case from memory. He said that the problem is that for this UID, they have fingerprints, and possibly dentals, but they don't have DNA, and he is not sure that they still have access to the body.

    He did take down Kenneth LaManna's name though, and will check into it tomorrow.


    ETA: I also e-mailed him a link to the YouTube video.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 12-14-2010 at 06:33 PM.

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    thanks Carl. I'm glad you have no problem getting on the phone and calling these people. I suppose with your background you have a better handle on the subject matter than I do.

    by the way, the email address I had was for Chris Edwards. who knows how many they get in a day or whether it wound up in some spam box.

    thanks again for the follow up.

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    I received an e-mail from Chris Edwards:

    I contacted the PD today and their missing person investigator is out until tomorrow. I will contact him tomorrow and ask about dental and fingerprints of the missing person. Just letting you know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    I received an e-mail from Chris Edwards:
    at least one of us got an email from Mr. Edwards. I checked my spam box to see if anything arrived there, but zilch.

    let's see what the final outcome is on this potential match.

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    Question on Potential Match

    While looking at his picture again during the BB gun discussion I noticed he definetely had what could be described as wavy hair. Was wondering if our potential match had this type of hair. In his picture no but it was much shorter and probrably easier to straighten if he wanted to. By the way I have what could be described as wavy hair (according to others including the ones that trim my hair, not really to me) and when longer can kinda see it. Can anyone locate another picture which may show longer hair. Wavy and or curly hair especially on men kinda stand out, this is coming from a female perspective. Its possible I missed it but would like to see potential match with another hair style.

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    He looks sort of Breton to me, but then again I'm in Australia and seeing less Hispanic faces day to day than the Americans here do, so I've got less of a full image in my mind of what Hispanic can mean appearance-wise. His hair, although wavy, looks very fine and flyaway in texture compared to the images in my mind that go along with Hispanic.

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    Another update from Chris Edwards

    I talked with Waterbury PD with a detective and he is going to check about fingerprints on his missing person. He thinks that the missing person has a print card somewhere. If he finds one he will get the card to me so I can compare to my John Doe.

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    Update from Chris Edwards:

    Waterbury PD has prints on the missing person and is mailing them to me. I will let you know the outcome.

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