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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Okay so this is what I got from ancestry.com for EB's divorces...

    North Carolina Divorce Index, 1958-2004
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    Name: EW******
    Spouse: JW******
    Marriage: Sept 14, 1985 - North Carolina
    Divorce: Jan 29, 1986 - Caldwell, North Carolina

    Name: EPr*****
    Spouse: JDPr*****
    Marriage: Sept 5, 1987- South Carolina
    Divorce: Feb 6, 1992 - Burke, North Carolina

    Name: EH*****
    Spouse: AH*****
    Marriage: Apr 7,1991 - South Carolina
    Divorce: Dec 14,1995 - Lenoir, North Carolina

    Name: EPu****
    Spouse: DPu****
    Marriage: 4 - South Carolina *
    Divorce: Nov 22, 1999 - Cleveland, North Carolina


    *note* This one is missing the marriage date in the records. It just has the number 4 listed. 1994? She is listed as Elisa Pu**** in other records (address and arrest) in 1995 so she would have been married to him at least since then.

    These are from divorce records. Interesting to note there was no record of divorce for Elisa Allred. I suppose there is no guarantee that these are all actually her, these are just based on the aliases she was using during those time periods.
    Okay, let me try to get this straight...she's been married 6 times, including AY and AB?!

    And most of these marriages appears to have lasted less than 4 years, with the exception of her 10 year marriage to AY?

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    Bringing over my post from the Criminal History & Aliased thread...


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    Quote Originally Posted by agathawannabe View Post
    Good stuff, Kamille - thanks!

    Adding to this..

    She married (1) A. Winkler in 1985 (Caldwell County) and the marriage was soon annulled. [Source]

    (2) Harris, (3) Putnam, (4) Proctor , (5) Allred [1997]

    (6) Young [marriage record? apparently there is a divorce record showing August 21, 1009 per J. Moxley 11/17]

    (7) Baker [July 2008, per photos with marriage license in Australia]

    (8) Damien [forthcoming] ? j/k

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    Umm who is DPu??

    Name: EPu****
    Spouse: DPu****
    Marriage: 4 - South Carolina *
    Divorce: Nov 22, 1999 - Cleveland, North Carolina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Okay, let me try to get this straight...she's been married 6 times, including AY and AB?!

    And most of these marriages appears to have lasted less than 4 years, with the exception of her 10 year marriage to AY?

    And if these are all indeed her, she had 2 marriages going on at once at least one time and sure didn't follow the one year waiting period before divorce on others.

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    Would it not mean that AY and EB were living as husband and wife during her online chats with AB? Also that they (AY & EB) were living as husband and wife up until she left to Australia? Then EB and AB returning to say they(AY & EB) are brother and sister....This makes me think a whole bunch of things.

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    Bringing over my post from the Criminal History & Aliased thread...


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    All the below were in 1997??? Sorry if I am being a total ditz here but colored me way confused.

    (2) Harris, (3) Putnam, (4) Proctor , (5) Allred [1997

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Okay, let me try to get this straight...she's been married 6 times, including AY and AB?!

    And most of these marriages appears to have lasted less than 4 years, with the exception of her 10 year marriage to AY?

    So was AY unaware of these other marriages? (IMO, um, NO.) I totally understand about not sleuthing peripheral figures--but what do we do with a ten year marriage that overarched several OTHER marriages, the final one of which began with the lie that AY was not a husband but a brother (EB must have run that story past not only AY but all the relatives who helped perpetuate the lie), and ended with the death of the "extra" husband's disabled child...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomey View Post
    All the below were in 1997??? Sorry if I am being a total ditz here but colored me way confused.
    No, sorry.. use Kamille's post above for the dates.

    I didn't have marriage dates for the ones in between '85 and '97 when I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomey View Post
    All the below were in 1997??? Sorry if I am being a total ditz here but colored me way confused.
    Well, to be fair, there are 12 whole months in a year.

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    I cannot follow these dates and marriages any more...I'm so confused. I need to see actual marriage and divorce records now in order to get my mind wrapped around it all. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clue Hopper View Post
    Would it not mean that AY and EB were living as husband and wife during her online chats with AB? Also that they (AY & EB) were living as husband and wife up until she left to Australia? Then EB and AB returning to say they(AY & EB) are brother and sister....This makes me think a whole bunch of things.
    I have for a good while believed the EB & AY Dynamic was off the charts bizarre. **IMO**

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    My goodness this is crazy and confusing! I am on my second marriage and although I love my husband, if we ever split up, I can't EVER see myself getting married again. It would have to be someone incredibly extraordinary for me to even consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomey View Post
    So if she was never divorced from Allred when married in 1997, then all marriages after that were null and void.
    So how many felony counts would there be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomey View Post
    So if she was never divorced from Allred when married in 1997, then all marriages after that were null and void.
    Actually if the last two are correct she hasn't been "legally" married since JDPr***** in 1987.

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    can someone explain ABC to me? For example

    1st marriage=legal
    2nd marriage=legal
    3rd not sure or not legal

    etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Okay, let me try to get this straight...she's been married 6 times, including AY and AB?!

    And most of these marriages appears to have lasted less than 4 years, with the exception of her 10 year marriage to AY?

    Actually 7.

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    I'm trying to make myself a timeline. Does anyone know the date of marriage to JA. All I have is 1997. And did anyone find a date for that divorce??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clue Hopper View Post
    Would it not mean that AY and EB were living as husband and wife during her online chats with AB? Also that they (AY & EB) were living as husband and wife up until she left to Australia? Then EB and AB returning to say they(AY & EB) are brother and sister....This makes me think a whole bunch of things.
    Me too and none of them are pleasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Actually 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Do what?
    I know and I still cannot follow them...but I understand the SEVEN!

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    I keep hearing Eminem's - slim shady in my head. Will the real Mr. Elisa please stand up please stand up please stand up?
    If no link is provided it's a good bet it's simply

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    I wonder how many dang husbands we will have to go back to find the one she is actually legally married to?? There seem to be discrepencies with nearly ever marriage/divorce?
    If no link is provided it's a good bet it's simply

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    Anyone know if AY would be criminally liable if he told AB he was E?'s brother while knowing they were still married?

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    W, H, Pu, Pr, JA, AY, AB

    Wow...7 it is.

    Unless...there's MORE.
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