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  1. #46
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    Uh this isnt North Korea, he is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Sometimes I wonder what kind of world we would live in if some of what I read on these forums became a reality, certainly not a world that interests me.

    Like him or not this is America and he has a right to a fair trial.


    The burn him at the stake before he is proven guilty approach didnt work with Casey and it isnt going to work with Jeffs.

    I know not everyone agrees with the Constitution but it IS the law of the land, there are plenty of other places in the world that dont respect human rights, we dont need to add to the list.

    If Jeffs is proven guilty then by all means he should be punished for it but we do not know that he is guilty we only know what the state tells us and we all know how that worked out in the Anthony case, the state was proven to be as big a liar as she is. Let the evidence speak for itself.

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    would an audiotape of the rape convince you? DNA of the parents and baby?

    i think that will be pretty powerful evidence.

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    If only we could be watching this fiasco.

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    Flora Jessop on Twitter

    "Maybe #WarrenJeffs needs a dictionary to understand the difference between prosecution and persecution."
    21 minutes ago

    "But...this is not a threat Your Honor, this is a revelation!"
    22 minutes ago

    "Only someone from within the #FLDS can fully understand the underlying meanings embedded in #WarrenJeffs speeches or sermons."
    39 minutes ago

    "So #WarrenJeffs is now threatening "Gentiles" with banishment."
    40 minutes ago

    "#WarrenJeffs tells the jury that when he takes over he will put them all away. In FLDS "to put away" means to banish or place in exile."
    41 minutes ago

    "Tonight I will be a guest on @DrDrewHLN discussing the #WarrenJeffs trial."
    47 minutes ago

    Source: http://twitter.com/#!/florajessop

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    Jeffs threatening the jury:

    #WarrenJeffs says god "shall send a scourge upon the counties of prosecutorial zeal that to be humbled by sickness and death"

    16 minutes ago

    BREAKING: #WarrenJeffs reads statement he says is from god in court
    20 minutes ago

    From http://twitter.com/#!/lwhitehurst

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    SomeRandomChick SomeRandomChick
    "Sweet, sweet retribution that 11 women now sit in judgement of Warren Jeffs."
    1 minute ago

    florajessop Flora Jessop
    "People need to understand that Warren Jeffs is offended that the judge is female."
    4 hours ago

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    This reads better from the bottom up:

    "FLDS men sat in hallway this afternoon when evidence from temple was introduced."
    9 minutes ago

    "Will be back in court Monday morning."
    22 minutes ago

    "The judge told Warren Jeffs he could be removed if he threatened the jury."
    24 minutes ago

    "Let this cease lest you bring forth an eternal power of judgment upon your own lives. This being instructed by my God."
    26 minutes ago

    "I shall send a scourge upon the counties of prosecutorial zeal to be humbled by sickness and death..."
    28 minutes ago

    "from you. I am to God overall that speaketh. I shall judge you. I shall let all people know of your unjust ways..."
    30 minutes ago

    "...prosecution against my holy way. Let it stop now! To continue to be a persecution against my church I will wrest power..."
    32 minutes ago

    "Warren Jeffs' proclamation from God, read in court without the jury present, follows: "I the lord God of heaven call upon you to cease this..."
    34 minutes ago

    "3 security guys stepped forward in courtroom when Warren Jeffs continued to interrupt. Is he hoping to get dragged out of the courtroom?"
    4 hours ago

    From http://twitter.com/#!/Katy_Vine

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    He is refusing to recognize the courts jurisdiction over him, no surprise there, anyone could have seen that coming. He simply wont recognize the proceedings or cooperate with them, by doing this, no matter the outcome, he will forever be a martyr to his followers. They really cant beat him this way, he wins no matter what.

    Did anyone really expect him to get up and defending himself like any other lawyer would? Warren Jeffs has very strong and fundamnetal religious beliefs, he doesnt see what he did, whatever it may be, as being wrong, according to his religion he did what his God commanded him to, really no different than what Jesus or any other religious zealot did in their own time and place, they simply do not recognize the powers that be and therefore they have no authority over them, locking them up or even killing them means nothing to them, it only makes them more powerful in the eyes of their followers because they were persecuted for their religious beliefs.

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    "Certainly, Mr. Jeffs. And would you like some fries with that?"

    "I shall send a scourge upon the counties of prosecutorial zeal to be humbled by sickness and death...Let this cease, lest you bring forth an eternal power of judgement upon your own lives."

    Rant transcript: The full 'sickness and death' proclamation from Warren Jeffs

    Followup article: Jeffs delivers a stern statement, says it came from God

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFn8_CeERU4"]Jeffs on trial[/ame]
    Click on "Watch on YouTube".
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx8O1FXGLx8"]Living with Jeffs[/ame]


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    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    #warrenjeffs judge will not step down, said she checked with another Judge and looked at supreme Court law
    12 minutes ago

    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    #warrenjeffs motion to remove his judge his third, is 16 pages, mostly what he calls new revelation from God, check gosanangelo for doc soon
    29 minutes ago

    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    Sam Brower, who has written a book against #warrenjeffs is in court spectating
    1 hour ago

    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    Lyle Jeffs, an FLDS bishop, is in court #warrenjeffs
    1 hour ago

    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    Flora Jessop is at #warrenjeffs trial, she is a former FLDS member, said what Jeffs says is "coded"
    1 hour ago

    gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
    #warrenjeffs just filed a third motion for recusal
    1 hour ago

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    Revelation of the Lord given to President Warren S Jeffs (recusal motion)

    http://media.gosanangelo.com/media/s...otion_0801.pdf

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogbyfiIcNdg"]Jeffs trial on hold after motion[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kantoo View Post
    that argument is so irritating.

    their religion says nothing about what age the wife should be when they marry them. there's no reason they couldn't marry an 18 year old, instead of a 12 or 15 year old.
    I am outraged at the horrors that go on in the flds compounds. I have been reading the reports of some of the women who came out and who are instrumental in Warren Jeffs or any of them being prosecuted in the first place. Babies are terrorized and abused. Girls and boys are sexually molested by family members and non. Women are property and have no rights. I am sickened and outraged. At first, I was sure that he didn't have a chance in Texas, the Bible belt. Texas has a high conviction rate for trials. Don't mess with Texas is our motto. BUT, Texas sent those children back to the abuse! The judge is letting this pervert preach in the courtroom! I am very worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAXIMUS View Post
    Uh this isnt North Korea, he is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Sometimes I wonder what kind of world we would live in if some of what I read on these forums became a reality, certainly not a world that interests me.

    Like him or not this is America and he has a right to a fair trial.


    The burn him at the stake before he is proven guilty approach didnt work with Casey and it isnt going to work with Jeffs.

    I know not everyone agrees with the Constitution but it IS the law of the land, there are plenty of other places in the world that dont respect human rights, we dont need to add to the list.

    If Jeffs is proven guilty then by all means he should be punished for it but we do not know that he is guilty we only know what the state tells us and we all know how that worked out in the Anthony case, the state was proven to be as big a liar as she is. Let the evidence speak for itself.
    Witness and victims statements are evidence. I have heard all the evidence I need to hear to say he is GUILTY! Oh, also there is the DNA from the child he fathered by a minor child. Evidence of GUILT.

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