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    Older Daughter

    I am new here and I have heard some mention of the Ramsey's older daughter. Can anyone tell me more about her?

    Thanks!


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    John and his first wife had 3 children(2 girls and a boyl).
    The oldest daughter died in a car accident.
    She wouldve been JBR' s half sister and Patsy's step-daughter.


    Hope that answers your question!
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    I think it was 2 girls (Beth -who was killed, and Melinda) and a boy, John Andrew.


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    Thanks - I was curious to hear if there were mysterious circumstances surrounding his older daughter's death also.


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    No nothing strange with her death although people tried to infer things after JBR's murder.
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    I think the death of his older daughter played no small part in his reaction to the events on 12/25/'96. It may even have been a factor In Patsy's psychotic fantasy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMoon
    I think the death of his older daughter played no small part in his reaction to the events on 12/25/'96. It may even have been a factor In Patsy's psychotic fantasy.
    How so? Did you think John would break down and lose it like he did with Melinda's death? Be incoherant and unable to function?

    Don't you find it odd that JR had a shrine to his dead daughter in his bathroom?


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    I would think that having lost one daughter already and going through all of that pain would make JR less likely, or able, to help cover up the murder of JonBenet.
    On the other hand, if Patsy or Burke did it he may have helped them cover it up so that he wouldn't loose yet another family member.
    Shrine to his dead daughter in his bathroom? - Obviously I need to go back and read some of the old posts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by princessmer81
    I would think that having lost one daughter already and going through all of that pain would make JR less likely, or able, to help cover up the murder of JonBenet.
    On the other hand, if Patsy or Burke did it he may have helped them cover it up so that he wouldn't loose yet another family member.
    Shrine to his dead daughter in his bathroom? - Obviously I need to go back and read some of the old posts.
    Yep, "me too"!
    In his bathroom?


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    He and Patsy had seperate bathrooms and in his is where John kept all his photos of Beth.


    John was apparently totally bereft over Beth's death and would be up in the middle of the night crying (which Patsy was aware of but instead of getting up to comfort him ,she's fake being asleep and the two never discussed it.I also belive Burke was aware of John's nighttime crying jags as well).


    Just another Ramsey family dysfunctional issue!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker
    How so? Did you think John would break down and lose it like he did with Melinda's death? Be incoherant and unable to function?

    Don't you find it odd that JR had a shrine to his dead daughter in his bathroom?
    I think he had a large part of himself ripped out when Beth died, not much left to get all scrambled up. Some people get softer, others more hard after suffering a loss. I think the later is what happened to John.

    No, shrines are common for dead loved ones. But they are usually in the more public rooms. I've always thought his retreat to the bathroom spoke of Patsy's turf marking on the rest of the house more than any connection between the elimination functions and a deceased female offspring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by messiecake


    John was apparently totally bereft over Beth's death and would be up in the middle of the night crying ...

    messiecake,

    What is your source for this information? Thanks.

    JMO


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    There is just a little kernel of this information that rings true. Somewhere in my reading I heard that he would retreat ,as not to disturb and to be alone, and sob over the loss of his daughter. There is nothing that indicates in any of the books (of course there are a few I haven't read,those dealing with reverse speech and the like) that he had a shrine in his bathroom. IMO


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    I too recall reading somewhere about this supposed shrine. I don't remember where I read it and it may simply be a propagated rumor that has taken on its own legend as fact.


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    My recollection is that it was a poster here who used the word "shrine." When asked, it turned out that what he had were simply photographs of her that were in the bathroom.


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