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    There are probably better sites but this might answer the question:

    http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/part3.th.a130.html

    It looks like there are a variety of crimes; sexual misconduct, forcible touching, sex abuse in the second degree, and sex abuse in the third degree which are listed as Class A and Class B (the most serious) misdemeanors. I'm sure the age of the victim would come into consideration.

    FWIW, the ages of the victims are given differently in several articles. I would think crimes against some--namely those over 18--would merit different charges.


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    I thought the Rabbi had been caught!! But no, it was another Brooklyn Rabbi who fled to Israel after being arrested for sexual abuse of multiple children. He's been in Israel for over 20 years. Others may know this story but I did not:

    From 2008:

    http://www.survivorsforjustice.org/i...news&Itemid=57

    Brooklyn Rabbi Accused of Sexual Abuse Loses Extradition Battle

    "An Israeli judge ruled Sunday that a disgraced Brooklyn rabbi accused of sexually abusing children more than two decades ago can be extradited to the U.S.

    Rabbi Avrohom Mondrowitz, who fled to the Jewish state in 1984 to avoid prosecution, could now be headed back to Brooklyn within a matter of months to face sodomy and sex abuse charges...."

    more at link

    If you're curious about Rabbi Mondrowitz (as I was), you might be interested in this earlier piece, from 2006:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2555575&page=1 (note: 3 pgs.)

    Child Sex Abuse Case Still Haunts
    The Cold Case of Avrohom Mondrowitz and the Silencing of a Community




    This a fabulous piece. As my AP English Lit teacher, Mrs. Yamazaki, would say, "Assigned reading/no argument"!! Quite a bit of insight into the cultural implications. Also note that they mention yet another Brooklyn Rabbi.

    Heckola, from 2010:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/rinkratz/4454964382/

    (lots more info, here)

    Not only will the Rabbi NOT be extradited but he will NOT be charged for child pornography found in his home. Remember, I commented above that the treaty did not cover sodomy or homosexual acts? Well, it looks like the Rabbi's attorney argued successfully that that could not be used against him retroactively, when they modified it. I wonder why Ashland's Silverman (also a therapist), got nabbed?

    Maybe I need to retract some of my earlier statements about a great extradition treaty. WTH?


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    So, the treaty didn't work to get Mondrowitz back. Why, with almost the same timeframe and same crimes, did it work to bring Silverman back? Here's a short post from the excellent source, "Survivors for Justice" I linked to above, about Silverman:

    http://www.survivorsforjustice.org/i...news&Itemid=57

    I can attest to the fact that Silverman was brought back. I had my husband attend his sentencing hearing in Medford, OR in front of Judge Lisa Greif. He can also be found on Vinelink cooling his jets at Snake River. Maybe we won't run into these issues with Kranczer as he abused females. Cold, cold comfort.

    I commented above about the victims being ostracized and blamed within their insular community. Make sure you note in the ABC piece exactly how that applied to the young men who stepped forward to talk about the heinous treatment meted out to them by the charismatic, popular, and "charming" Rabbi Mondrowitz.

    These guys NEVER change. EVER......


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    Horrific.
    Thank you my WS family for everything you do, everyday. You are loved and appreciated.

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    This case has been bothering me as it closely parallels a case from my town. A man, who was convicted of sexually abusing children, fled to Israel and hid out for almost nine years. He's been extradited and is now serving his time.

    Anyway, I was checking back on the case and noticed something. Rabbi Gershon Kranczer was said to have worked in a boys' school while he abused his daughters. Several of his sons abused their sisters. I just noticed that a person using the same name with another name added is the head counselor of a Jewish children's camp in the midwest. The man is 33. He is the contact person for the boys' section of the camp. Is this the same family? Has this been thoroughly checked out?

    I have to plead ignorance of Jewish naming traditions. The name Kranczer does not seem especially common and this is another Rabbi Kranczer. Just wondering if the man from Brooklyn also traveled to the campground in Indiana each summer to teach or possibly this is another of his sons.


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    This is horrible
    I'm just so sad tonight and frustrated at all these kinds of stories
    I was sexually abused for about 6 years of my life and am going through the court stuff now
    And i'm just having such a hard time tonight and then i come on and read this
    It's sick
    These horrible sex monsters don't even realize how much they RUIN our lives!!!!
    It forever changes a person........
    Ughhhhhhhhhhh..........
    i feel sick about it all tonight.....
    I sat there for the longest time
    after you were gone....
    thinking about all things we said.....
    and all the things we didn't say...
    I wonder if you misunderstood,
    cause I'm no good when it comes to talking....
    And I'm sorry,I didn't know the words.......
    to make you stay.


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    soyesterday--You have my (((hugs))) and my prayers. You are a brave person, indeed, to go forward. It's the only door to becoming a survivor, IMO.

    I'll be thinking of you.


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    I can't believe that his name is still on this website!!

    Special Day School Programs

    L’Dovid Tehila Yeshiva
    XXXX East 17th Street
    Brooklyn, NY 11229
    (718) 645-XXXX


    Contact: Rabbi Gershon Kranczer XXX@email.com

    Population / Gender / Age / LD, SLD / M / 5 – 18 / Small classes

    http://www.bjeny.org/pdf/speced/spec...%20Schools.pdf


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    LCoastMom--It's total denial--exactly like in the case I sited above--the one about Rabbi Mondrowitz. The children and teens who spoke out were silenced or shouted down. They were told to move on, forget, forgive. It's inexcusable, IMO. It doesn't seem to matter if it's the Jewish, Catholic, Mormon, or any organized faith or path--the predators all seem to use the same playbook. I'm sad to say that we could almost use a template to write these threads, just changing the names.

    As we sit here writing about these men, I am certain that they are preying on new victims in Israel. Most likely not many Israelis will have heard of this case and the Rabbi and his son will be respected for their fine work. This will open doors for them. They will be invited to stay in family homes and they will offend again.

    ICE arrested Silverman. I'm really hoping they are after the Rabbi Kranczer.


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    Here we go... A photo of the alleged perp. "Rabbi Kranczer"

    The hunt for Kranczer comes at a time when federal agencies are taking a more proactive approach to prosecuting abuse in the Orthodox community. In Brooklyn last year, about 25 Orthodox men were arrested on sex abuse charges.

    This year in Lakewood, New Jersey, a predominantly Orthodox community, the local prosecutor has launched 29 sex crime investigations.

    According to law enforcement officials in New Jersey and New York, more Orthodox abuse victims are coming forward than ever before. But perhaps more importantly, sexual abuse itself, once taboo, has become an increasingly talked about issue within the Orthodox world. Just a couple of months ago, two of the country’s largest and most influential Orthodox organizations, the Rabbinical Council of America and the Orthodox Union, co-sponsored America’s first National Jewish Child Abuse Prevention Week.

    http://privateinvesigations.blogspot...ckon-with.html
    Very good article on the troubling situation -

    OK this is the second place I've read this - call it a rumor but I hope it's true:

    New York City children's services officials reportedly removed the minor children from the home (JTA)

    http://www.sajewishreport.co.za/pdf/...NJWED00708.pdf
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    A spokeswoman for the Administration for Children’s Services would not comment on any visits to the home because of the investigation. She said the agency was in the process of taking some of the children from the house and was “working to ensure the safety of all the children.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/04/ny...html?src=twrhp

    I read an article in MSM - dealing with changes within the Orthodox Jewish Community and Child Sexual Abuse that I wanted to quote (so I didn't mess it up) I can't find it now so I'll quote the following that states the same just not quite as well as the first one:

    “Breaking the Silence: Sexual Abuse in the Jewish Community.”

    It is the first extensive treatment of sexual abuse among Jews aimed at a religious audience, and it faces the explosive topic head on — from advice on contacting police to filing abuse reports to halachic arguments about why reporting molesters is in keeping with Jewish law...

    “There’s been some kind of tipping point that’s been reached,” said Dr. Pelcovitz. The book, he explained “reflects the openness, I’m seeing the default setting seems to be shifting to action rather than denial. People have come to an understanding that responding to the issue of abuse, both in supporting the victims of abuse and dealing with the perpetrators is much more important than the issue of shame and stigma.”

    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fai...roken-567.html
    One thing of interest this article uses is changes with the Catholic Church has aided in making changes in the Orthodox Community


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    Hasidic Rabbi, Sons Accused of Sexually Abusing Girls

    We kno the story so I sniped the bottom of this articel.

    State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, whose districts include many of the ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods, discussed sexual abuse among members of the insular world of ultra-Orthodox Jews on a radio show in 2008, prompting dozens of listeners to come forward with stories of abuse. Critics have said sex abuse claims are sometimes handled quietly in Orthodox rabbinical courts, rather than being reported to authorities.

    As a result, the state earmarked about $1 million to fund Hikind's plans to teach Hasidic Jews to speak up against child molestation. Prosecutors, counselors and religious leaders in Brooklyn banded together last year to form a program to combat sexual abuse in the community. A hot line was established where victims can call and speak with a "culturally sensitive" social worker.

    http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/loca...-20101203-apx#

    It is good that money is set aside but to what? is my question. IMHO there should be a study of:
    WHY religious leaders in all faiths do such horrific things, which are in fact totally against any religion.
    A course can be developed to train them HOW to seek help if they feel an urge to go against all human decency.
    Sadly I think some of this bad behavior is a result of mental imbalance.
    also - it goes on in politics too, where it is more hushed, part of the game in the secret societies.
    Women are Angels.
    And when someone breaks our wings,
    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

    We're flexible like that.


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    I keep on searching for an update on this story.
    But sadly I cant find any.
    I wonder if they have been found and brought back to the US.
    Women are Angels.
    And when someone breaks our wings,
    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

    We're flexible like that.


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    Why do some cases just disapear?
    Women are Angels.
    And when someone breaks our wings,
    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

    We're flexible like that.


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    Songline--He's not forgotten by me. I check the news at least 3 times each week for him. He's on my "list". I'm certain that he'll be found at some point. We had a man, a child therapist, from our town abscond to Israel just before he was set to go to prison for the sexual abuse of developmentally disabled therapy clients. It took 9 years to find him in Netanya but Interpol never gave up. They got very tricky and followed his wife to a secret visit and nabbed him as he exited his house to greet her.

    Israel cooperated and immediately jailed the man but they had to change the current laws about extradition as the laws only covered those convicted of abusing girls. Samuel Arthur Silverman of Ashland, Oregon is the reason those Israeli laws now also cover the abuse of males on extradition charges. He's currently doing his time in an Oregon prison.

    Don't give up.


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