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    I think the No contact order is between EB and JB, I just reread this prior motion re separation order between witnesses. Oct 4 2010

    Separation order of witnesses:

    http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-longoria/Plaintiff/Response-Motion017.pdf

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    http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-long...No-Contact.pdf


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    http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-jab-mo...,1045244.story

    Re: Alicia DeBolt -- Found Deceased 8/24/10
    by Justice4all on Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:11 pm

    .Motion filed to cease contact between Adam Longoria and girlfriend

    By John Boyd
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    12:27 p.m. CST, December 1, 2010



    A motion is filed to keep a man accused of killing a Great Bend teen from contacting his girlfriend. Adam Longoria is charged in the death of Alicia DeBolt.

    The motion, filed Tuesday, states that Longoria is to have no contact with Eva Brown, who is a witness in the case. It also states he cannot have contact with another person, Jeff Brown.
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    QUESTION
    What does everyone think is the reason for the state to want JB not having contact with AL?

    Im curious if hes getting buddy buddy with him. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cathdawg View Post
    Do we really know for sure that bowling and Din's at the Rack happened? AL had his buddies over earlier that day and APPARENTLY (according to EB) they left just before EB and AL went out. If Mr Martin was telling the truth about seeing Alicia that Eve then.....what's up? He said he left JUST Before they all left???

    Now we do know that Alicia was with her Family that day and returned home about 10 pm, this I believe is Gospel and we do know she was picked up @ 11:01.....

    I wish alicia hadn't lied to her Mom, obviously TC warned Alicia about AL.

    I think IR, if it is the same IR, his testimony will be key.
    Yes, there is confilct between these two stories. Be intersting to see if Martin had his days mixed or EB is fibbing again. IIRC, the family went to Wichita to shop and that is over 100 miles away. I'm just guessing, but I would think they made a day of it and AD was shopping for school goodies. They also stopped for dinner prior to coming home. I really don't see how AD could have been there that day at all.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...504639&t=h&z=8

    Three things really bother me:

    The calls to AD while supposedly they were out bowling and having dinner between 9-10 PM and him? leaving as soon as they get home... after taking the trouble to send the kids to her brothers so they could have some "private" time together. Doesn't add up.

    I'd like to find info on the ex hubby (incarceration?) and just how did she come about to correspond with a prison inmate? Was she just messing around the internet and got a wild hair or otherwise? Curious if this is something that is "going around" in GB as after work entertainment in a small town? Group of women doing this just for fun and the oddity of it? If I were LE, I'd be thinking about that and if so, if any of them might be inviting new releasees (sp?) to the community. Scary, but in today's world, not odd at all.

    He apparently was fired from his construction job and then started working for Venture the Wed prior to the Sat that Alicia was murdered.....and he had EB call in with an excuse of family trouble so he could get out of work....after 3 days!!!! Another male looking for a mammawife.

    Mammawife = Someone a male cohabitates with in order to be the king tut of the household, but contributes very little except power and control. She works, cleans the house, takes care of kids and provides her wifely duties while kowtowing to his demands and galavanting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsidefox64 View Post
    http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-jab-mo...,1045244.story

    Re: Alicia DeBolt -- Found Deceased 8/24/10
    by Justice4all on Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:11 pm

    .Motion filed to cease contact between Adam Longoria and girlfriend

    By John Boyd
    KWCH 12 Eyewitness News
    12:27 p.m. CST, December 1, 2010



    A motion is filed to keep a man accused of killing a Great Bend teen from contacting his girlfriend. Adam Longoria is charged in the death of Alicia DeBolt.

    The motion, filed Tuesday, states that Longoria is to have no contact with Eva Brown, who is a witness in the case. It also states he cannot have contact with another person, Jeff Brown.
    I contacted this reporter over the apparent change in the motions, but haven't heard anything back. The original motion did state between AL and EB. If he tried to correct the article and added JB, then I think he's misinterpreting it. Its between EB and JB....imo--- and prolly stemmed from the confrontation at the courthouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsidefox64 View Post
    QUESTION
    What does everyone think is the reason for the state to want JB not having contact with AL?

    Im curious if hes getting buddy buddy with him. Thoughts?
    I've briefly thought about this. My first reaction was maybe afraid of physical contact or confrontaton, (EB) but now I'm wondering how much JB and AL did buddy around and how well they knew each other. I hope JB kept his nose clean....he was apparently "in trouble" before and now has a caring wife and kids.

    imo

    ETA: Whoops! Time to get the granny glasses out. I thought you meant EB!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hollyblue View Post
    I contacted this reporter over the apparent change in the motions, but haven't heard anything back. The original motion did state between AL and EB. If he tried to correct the article and added JB, then I think he's misinterpreting it. Its between EB and JB....imo--- and prolly stemmed from the confrontation at the courthouse.

    JMO
    Thanks hollyblue for clarifying this......I found earlier today a motion filed on Oct 4 2010 that makes sense why there is a no contact between EB and JB.

    #'s 1,2,3



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    Quote Originally Posted by cathdawg View Post
    Thanks hollyblue for clarifying this......I found earlier today a motion filed on Oct 4 2010 that makes sense why there is a no contact between EB and JB.

    #'s 1,2,3

    Link:

    http://www.kscourts.org/State-v-long...-Motion017.pdf
    I'm confused now. This order under #3 says it would be impossible to separate all the witnesses and keep them from conversing so the State objected to that part of the order, but the last motion (on the 30th) ordering them not to have ANY contact whatsoever tells me there is a reason more specific for it. ???


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    Okay is this Right or have I misunderstood the no contact order? I would like to clarify this motion filed on Nov 18 th to mean that there is to be NO contact between EB and JB. NOT between them and AL.

    So you are right hollyblue something had to have happened to exclude EB and JB from the Oct 4 motion.!!!!!

    Now I wish these Reporters would get it straight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cathdawg View Post
    Okay is this Right or have I misunderstood the no contact order? I would like to clarify this motion filed on Nov 18 th to mean that there is to be NO contact between EB and JB. NOT between them and AL.

    So you are right hollyblue something had to have happened to exclude EB and JB from the Oct 4 motion.!!!!!

    Now I wish these Reporters would get it straight.
    Right...and agree, but the court made a bad in originally typing the order and then they changed it. Remember...I thought I had a very senior moment and read/comprehended it wrong...but whoever typed the order goofed. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by hollyblue View Post
    Right...and agree, but the court made a bad in originally typing the order and then they changed it. Remember...I thought I had a very senior moment and read/comprehended it wrong...but whoever typed the order goofed. LOL
    Ok you 2 have me confused as can be. The article I posted said EB and JB couldnt have contact with AL.Which to me makes perfect sense. EB and JB not having contact with each other makes no sense at all considering they are family. Please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westsidefox64 View Post
    Ok you 2 have me confused as can be. The article I posted said EB and JB couldnt have contact with AL.Which to me makes perfect sense. EB and JB not having contact with each other makes no sense at all considering they are family. Please explain.
    I think the motion means: contact between EB & JB as it is written. Not between EB, JB and AL. As EB and JB are both witness in the case, and (just my opinion) the confrontation in the court house that day of a male (JB??) yelling at her and saying she lied.....leads me to think it was specifically made a motion for the two not to have contact. Since there would seem to be a conflict of stories...with one calling the other a liar.....I'm sure the prosecution does not want them getting together to discuss it any further. I'm just guessing at this....but it seems logical to me....lol not saying much there.....but it could be to keep them physically away from each other also. That's my perception....anyway???

    SB's FB went private....soon after, iirc. I keep thinking and wondering if she still has the children....or where are they and how are they doing. EB seems to be a mess. Just horrible how one man can cause so much harm to so many.........GRrrrr!


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    I am beyond frustrated with the conflicting information also, and I find it very strange that this case is not in our local news more! We subscribe to the Hutchinson Paper and the Wichita Eagle, the largest & most read papers serving the GB & central KS area.

    I did make it to GB last weekend, but things were too crazy with preparing for my parents move that I didn't have spare (alone) time to drive the routes & obtain pics. I am going back Thursday to shampoo carpets for my parents, and I will complete this project before heading over there.

    In looking at the addresses on the map in correlation with Love's, here is my opinion...

    AL is only a few blocks (I believe I counted 6) from AD. These roads are all residential, so time would be a couple minutes, at most. From there, he forced her to do horrible things in the SUV, and then when he was done he realized he messed up big time and would likely get caught. I believe he was intoxicated with either alcohol or drugs. There is only 1 Love's in GB, and it's the total OPPOSITE direction of the Venture plant. But, it was close to where AL lived, so I assume that's why he went there. Who knows. I think she was duct taped in the back of the SUV, and he did that to keep her down and out of sight/ear shot of other people at the gas station. Perhaps he also covered her with something (blanket, clothes, who knows) to keep her hidden also. This gas station is fairly busy, but it's also not uncommon for it to be very slow at that time of night. I drive by it every single time I go to my parents, both on the way there and the way home.

    I think it was after 12:10 at the gas station that he then drove to Venture plant, and burned her. I pray that she wasn't alive when she was burned but, I am starting to believe she was still alive. My theory, she knew she was going to die when he duct taped her and she somehow managed to grab ahold of a piece of her jewelry to comfort herself. I don't believe it's been said what she was holding, but perhaps it was a cross or something a family member (mom, sister, dad) gave her and it she was praying for her life. He set her on fire, watched her die, tossed the can out the window, rushed home & tried like heck to dispose of the evidence.

    I think EB should be charged with tampering of evidence and concealing a crime. She had to have known what was going on, maybe not right away, but I cannot believe she would not connect the events of him coming home smelling of gas & a Venture plant employee finding her burned body.


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    ^^^ITA ^^^
    I also think she was likely alive when he burned her. In one of the articles I read where her arms and legs were drwn up in a fetal position. I think from pain. I think hes sadistic and thats why she was on her back. I think he wanted to watch her face.

    The jewelry i havent came to a conclusion. It could be something for comfort. I d like to think maybe she had enough where with all to grab a neclace off him or out of the car as a clue for LE. That being said its pretty obvious I think she knew she was going to be killed or at least hurt very badly.

    With the gallon jug being thrown across the cemetary fence and the fake text to ADs phone calling off the "party", getting the friend tt say he was at the bar, washing his clothes, bleaching shoes, getting rid of his pants he was trying to cover his behind from the get go.

    EBs involvement is a mystery to me. Id like to think getting rid of the shirt was all she had to do with it but her timeline just doesnt fit. There is no way He was back changing out of gas coated clothes 15 minutes after picking up AD. I think he HAS a strong hold on her. It wouldnt suprise me if he didnt involve her in this more than we know. Time will tell. I d like to see the Loves video servalance tape to see what AL was wearing when he purchased the gas. I think that will be all telling on EBs part. I just think if he changed clothes that soon the shorts and tank top would be the get rid of clothes. If he was home at 11:15 it was for a whole different reason. Just not buying it. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksnurse View Post
    I am beyond frustrated with the conflicting information also, and I find it very strange that this case is not in our local news more! We subscribe to the Hutchinson Paper and the Wichita Eagle, the largest & most read papers serving the GB & central KS area.

    I did make it to GB last weekend, but things were too crazy with preparing for my parents move that I didn't have spare (alone) time to drive the routes & obtain pics. I am going back Thursday to shampoo carpets for my parents, and I will complete this project before heading over there.

    In looking at the addresses on the map in correlation with Love's, here is my opinion...

    AL is only a few blocks (I believe I counted 6) from AD. These roads are all residential, so time would be a couple minutes, at most. From there, he forced her to do horrible things in the SUV, and then when he was done he realized he messed up big time and would likely get caught. I believe he was intoxicated with either alcohol or drugs. There is only 1 Love's in GB, and it's the total OPPOSITE direction of the Venture plant. But, it was close to where AL lived, so I assume that's why he went there. Who knows. I think she was duct taped in the back of the SUV, and he did that to keep her down and out of sight/ear shot of other people at the gas station. Perhaps he also covered her with something (blanket, clothes, who knows) to keep her hidden also. This gas station is fairly busy, but it's also not uncommon for it to be very slow at that time of night. I drive by it every single time I go to my parents, both on the way there and the way home.

    I think it was after 12:10 at the gas station that he then drove to Venture plant, and burned her. I pray that she wasn't alive when she was burned but, I am starting to believe she was still alive. My theory, she knew she was going to die when he duct taped her and she somehow managed to grab ahold of a piece of her jewelry to comfort herself. I don't believe it's been said what she was holding, but perhaps it was a cross or something a family member (mom, sister, dad) gave her and it she was praying for her life. He set her on fire, watched her die, tossed the can out the window, rushed home & tried like heck to dispose of the evidence.

    I think EB should be charged with tampering of evidence and concealing a crime. She had to have known what was going on, maybe not right away, but I cannot believe she would not connect the events of him coming home smelling of gas & a Venture plant employee finding her burned body.
    Looks feasible to me. I dont' think the 12:35 time for him getting home is true....it had to be later.

    What stumps me is the meeting of a friend at Love's that the family spoke of before she was found. Where did this come from? Did it come from AD telling them that or was it something they heard from someone else...rumors. Did AD text someone that she was doing that? Curious to know where this spawned?

    The act of him pouring gas on her and then setting her on fire....I can't wrap my thoughts around. If true, they should make him drink some gas, douse his hands and WICK only and then light the WICK. "Can't touch that." Make the punishment match the crime.


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