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    Mother of 8-year-old handcuffed for hitting student

    http://www.courttv.com/people/2004/0901/mother_ap.html

    The mother of a third-grader handcuffed and taken to the police station after hitting another child with a basketball has filed a notice that she intends to sue the Espanola school district, city police and the jail.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Maybe if they did something like this to other juvenile deliquents, there wouldn't be so many kids ending up in prison.

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    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)
    Maybe if they did something like this to other juvenile deliquents, there wouldn't be so many kids ending up in prison.
    I agree
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Im not sure. 8 years old, being fingerprinted, dressed in prison orange, and locked in a cell for throwing a ball at another kid? What happened to school issues being school issues?

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    An inschool suspension or detention maybe...an arrest with handcuffs and booking...no freaking way! Do they even do that to kids who bring guns to school? It was a BASKETBALL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)
    Maybe if they did something like this to other juvenile deliquents, there wouldn't be so many kids ending up in prison.
    LOL, I'd tend to agree with you, but matters like these need a REAL solution, instead of a quick "fix." It is my opinion that children with behavioral disorders like this child do not belong in "regular" classrooms. I guess it's usually called "mainstreaming" these days, right?

    I think this feel-good practice is giving most of these disturbed/disordered (don't mean to be Un-PC, sorry!) children more than they can handle. And it disrupts the educational process for the majority of the children who do NOT have behavioral issues. Makes it much more difficult for teachers, too.

    And additionally, the police handcuffing this child, leaving him in a cell right next to adult arrestees who are threatening this child, and then allegedly telling him [paraphrased] "we're going to let those bad guys get you!" is certainly NOT going to help a child with a disorder to "straighten out."

    Ah ... off the soapbox now.
    Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu

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    I agree that kids need to be dealt with sternly but it has gottewn pretty serious as of late. My son, who was in 7th grade last year was leaving school and had a hole in the bottom of his backpack. As he was leaving class a smal pocket knife fell out of the bottom of the backpack. He visits his Dad every other wweekend, took the backpack, went fishing and used the knife, threw it into the backpack and it had been in there for 2 weeks. Now they had to send him to the principal and he was suspended. We had to go and have a hearing at the district office. Potentially he could have been kicked out of school and sent to a "continuation school". Luckily my son has been an A student since 1st grade, so after hearing him speak and explain himself, they allowed him back to school. BUT his report cards are sent to the district each semester for review and we will have to petition to see if we can get it off his record in a couple of years. Now I am not saying this is wrong at all. It was good for my son to learn a serious lesson. And that is there are consequences for every action and every NON-action. He chose to be lazy and forgetful and not take the knife out so he has to pay the consequences. Anyway it did worry me that other kids could fall through the cracks and their whole lives could be changed by something such as this. I can not imagine my son who already plans to be an oceanographer and go to UCSD could have possibly had his whole future changed by this falling from his backpack. Obviously I would see this differently if he had taken it out to show someone, etc...I think it is important for us to make all of our children accountable but be careful that we choose punishments that fit the crime...