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    9 Dec 2010 - Reports: Elizabeth confessed a second time to killing Gabriel

    According to new reports Elizabeth confessed a second time to killing Gabe.

    The first confession was when she texted Logan. This new second confession being reported was in May, during the interview with Detective Salame.

    It's reported that this second confession can't be used without a special ruling from a judge, since her attorney wasn't there during the interview.


    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Source: Baby Gabriel's Mom Confessed Twice
    Johnson Confession Reportedly Came During Jail Interview
    Pat McReynolds, CBS 5 News
    POSTED: 1:30 pm MST December 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 11:02 am MST December 8, 2010

    A source close to the missing Baby Gabriel investigation has told CBS 5 News that his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, confessed to a San Antonio, Texas, detective in May she killed her son.

    That confession came during an unauthorized meeting between Johnson and the detective in the Estrella Jail in Phoenix, a meeting of which her attorney was unaware.

    Because the meeting was unauthorized, it is not admissible in court unless there is a ruling otherwise.

    Detective John Salame of the San Antonio Police Department might have been just moments away from learning the location of Gabriel Johnson's body when Johnson's attorney appeared and ended the meeting, the source said.

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    Despite Johnson's alleged confession, McQueary said he maintains his belief that Gabriel is still alive.


    http://www.kpho.com/news/26050243/detail.html

    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Admission of guilt reported in baby's death
    Published: 12:00 a.m., Thursday, December 9, 2010

    SAPD refused to comment on the alleged confession.

    “The details of that interview are part of the investigative case file,” SAPD spokesman Sgt. Chris Benavides said in an e-mailed statement. “Therefore, the details cannot be discussed.”

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    SAPD Chief William McManus has said the allegations made about Salame were unsubstantiated and would be answered in court, but declined to comment further.

    Feldman found out about the interview while it was taking place and stopped it, Alcock said Wednesday by phone.

    Johnson filed a motion to change counsel Sept. 27, and last week attorney Marci Kratter became her lead defense attorney.

    Kratter, who said Wednesday she “has no idea what's going on,” confirmed she will represent Johnson at a status conference on the case scheduled for Thursday. She declined further comment.

    “The only person who really knows what happened in that meeting was Detective Salame,” Alcock said. “He wasn't on drugs.”

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ing-869422.php

    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Defense: Adoption talk for missing boy's mom legal
    Posted: 10:49 PM
    Last Updated: 8 hours and 34 minutes ago

    Gabriel's grandfather, Frank McQueary, told ABC15 he and his family appreciate the public support and continue to search for Gabriel.

    "We're holding out hope, but with everything that has happened and there being no sign of Gabriel, it really calls into question what exactly did Elizabeth do with that child," said McQueary.

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    "We've decided as a family that the best thing we can do to assist the county attorney's office is to let them do their jobs," said Frank McQueary. "We want them (Smith & Elizabeth Johnson) to go through the court process, we want them to be successfully prosecuted."

    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...39;s-mom-legal

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    My heart sank yesterday when I read this. A second time?? And to SAPD?? Is that why he risked the interview? He was about to find out where Gabriel is located?? I understood why she would lie to Logan in an attempt to hurt him but why would she lie to a detective about this? I'm just sick. Two things I'm holding on to for hope is she was heavily drugged at the time according to Alcock and this information is from an unnamed source. Please Lord let this sweet baby be somewhere out there safe so he can come home to his Daddy.

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    I'm in shock. And the fact that this happened back in May and they apparently haven't tried to get more info all because that meeting was "unauthorized" makes me sick.

    No matter what, I'm still holding out hope he's alive!
    100 years from now, it won't matter what kind of car you drove or how big your house was. What will matter is that you were important in the eyes of a child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TXHOPE View Post
    My heart sank yesterday when I read this. A second time?? And to SAPD?? Is that why he risked the interview? He was about to find out where Gabriel is located?? I understood why she would lie to Logan in an attempt to hurt him but why would she lie to a detective about this? I'm just sick. Two things I'm holding on to for hope is she was heavily drugged at the time according to Alcock and this information is from an unnamed source. Please Lord let this sweet baby be somewhere out there safe so he can come home to his Daddy.
    Me too TX. This interview occurred less than two weeks after Sorin Stanescu went on TV to tell us that Elizabeth, " is a very nice person" ...."who would never have hurt her child."

    It is all so overwhelming.

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    This is so sad. Whatever psych drugs EJ was on, apparently they did not put her into such a stupor that she couldn't communicate with the detective or was just talking pure nonsense. Which makes me think she was probably telling the truth.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94

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    Posting for reference regarding the medication Elizabeth was on at the time of the interview:


    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    I believe lithium is used to treat bipolar disorder.

    Elizabeth Johnson's Attorney Alleges Unlawful Questioning
    Lawyers file motion to dismiss on Friday
    Updated: Friday, 08 Oct 2010, 6:29 PM MDT
    Published : Friday, 08 Oct 2010, 6:29 PM MDT

    According to court paperwork, Johnson was on lithium during the questioning.

    http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news...ning-10-8-2010

    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Why is this medication prescribed?

    Lithium is used to treat and prevent episodes of mania (frenzied, abnormally excited mood) in people with bipolar disorder (manic-depressive disorder; a disease that causes episodes of depression, episodes of mania, and other abnormal moods). Lithium is in a class of medications called antimanic agents. It works by decreasing abnormal activity in the brain.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000531

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    I'm not shocked, I figured this is probably what happened all along.

    Makes me sick that EJ could possibly go free.

    She didn't have to kill him, that the whole point, she had OTHER options.....


    why not sign away at your parental rights if you did not want him... It's so very obvious that Logan and his family DID want Gabriel.


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    Not to be o/t here, but report on NG tonight on Master Gabe...probably nothing new, at least there is some national coverage.

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    Sad. Very sad.

    I think this was always a foregone conclusion given that EJ was willing to sit in jail rather than lead LE to Baby Gabriel alive or dead and her actions/demeanor.

    It is sad though that if she did kill Gabriel why not assist in locating him to bring him home and allow Gabriel to be laid to rest with respect and love?

    Did she do this just to spite Logan and is that the reason that Gabriel is not found and this isn't a closed case? Hatred and Spite are powerfully destructive irrational emotions.
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    I also think this little baby has been dead all along...I don't think she would say she had killed him if she had not. I just never believe these people who say they gave the child or children away...maybe it happens, rarely, but sadly, the children are murdered far more often...
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    I decided sometime back this little guy was no longer with us also. I didn't want to accept, but it's all that made sense. She was way to vague with info, and I don't believe even she would sit in jail this long and not give up who she gave the baby to. There's no way she gave him to a totally unknown basically nameless couple. She is diabolical. She had either killed the baby when she sent the father the text or planned to and did it right after. So horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Posting for reference regarding the medication Elizabeth was on at the time of the interview:
    Elizabeth Johnson's Attorney Alleges Unlawful Questioning

    The ATTORNEY alleges this.

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    if u caught Nancy Grace, Elizabeth allegedly confessed to killing Gabe and putting him in the diaper bag and tossing both into a dumpster. I for one think that is just what she did!!!! we all suspected she got rid of both.

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    this has been discussed before ... but I'm not sure what happened to the thread - maybe we didn't have proper MSM links then ... ?

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    Such sad news. The way she carried on and led everyone on.. I had really hoped it was out there. As time went on, I think it became pretty clear he was no longer with us. Shame they can't use the info

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