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    The Reker book is here!

    As always, I wanted Websleuths to be the first to know....Rita Reker wrote the Foreword and Afterword for the book...available in both print and Kindle formats


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/15429...isters+missing

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XS..._1490188114884
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarrChance View Post
    Just realised it may not be the correct Mary Reker as it is 1975 book, however there is also a 1974 book with her name. Also Worthington is 191 miles from St Cloud, so unlikely she went there? The Jim Wagner could be a connection though.
    Mary Reker from Worthington, MN is a first cousin of the murdered Mary Reker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARH521 View Post
    Mary Reker from Worthington, MN is a first cousin of the murdered Mary Reker.
    Thankyou for the clarification, do you know if the James Wagner is a connection ie, he would know Mary from St Clould due to them being cousins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    As always, I wanted Websleuths to be the first to know....Rita Reker wrote the Foreword and Afterword for the book...available in both print and Kindle formats


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/15429...isters+missing

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XS..._1490188114884
    Thankyou for writing about the Reker sisters, well worth the read for anyone (and that's most of us here) who is interested in this cold case.
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    Herbert Daniel Notch obituary.

    "In his leisure time, he enjoyed fishing, music, camping, and spending time outdoors."

    Is this the correct H.B. Notch? If so...I believe that they have omitted a few of his hobbies. This makes him sound like a saint.

    Note the recent RIH tribute in the tribute section.

    http://www.wingbain.com/obituaries/H...ch/#!/Obituary

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    I've read this thread a few times over the years, and still haven't seen some of my questions/speculations discussed; I'll try a few today.

    I thought it was odd that Mary wanted to leave her stuffed animals to her sister rather than something more personal (jewelry or something like that.) Adding the part about being murdered and how important it is that her wishes be followed (paraphrased, I don't remember the exact words), it seems that there may be something important about her stuffed animals. My question about it is, does anyone know if they were ever inspected to see if one had a name or some other hint of identification on/in it?

    It was also said that Susan had said she didn't want to go with that "man", but Notch would have only been 16 at the time. Is 12 young enough to consider a 16 year old a man? I know I was a lot younger than that and didn't think of my friends' 15, 16 & 18 year old siblings as adults. They were considered "guys" and "girls" to us.

    Another thing I wondered about is: if there was something significant about the stuffed animals, could she have hidden something there that the killer wanted (I haven't a clue what that could be)? If so, could Susan have been tortured first trying to get Mary to say where it was hidden? Another possibility is that she was being used to make Mary more compliant during the assault on her.

    Guess that's enough for this novel, as always, MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thyme View Post
    Herbert Daniel Notch obituary.

    "In his leisure time, he enjoyed fishing, music, camping, and spending time outdoors."

    Is this the correct H.B. Notch? If so...I believe that they have omitted a few of his hobbies. This makes him sound like a saint.

    Note the recent RIH tribute in the tribute section.

    http://www.wingbain.com/obituaries/H...ch/#!/Obituary
    Yes this is the "saint" as you so eloquently stated.

    Obituary for Herbert Notch
    Herbert Daniel Notch, Jr. was born on October 5, 1958 in St. Cloud, Minnesota. He died on May 11, 2017 at the St. Cloud Hospital.
    He was baptized and confirmed at St. Anthony’s Catholic Church and received his secondary education in the ALC in St. Cloud. He enlisted in the United States Navy, serving as a fireman recruit in San Diego, California before his honorable discharge in June of 1976. He made his living painting and shingling. In his leisure time, he enjoyed fishing, music, camping, and spending time outdoors. He particularly loved the company of his granddaughter.
    Herbert is survived by Melissa, his girlfriend of 25 years; his children: Heather Notch, McKenzie Notch and Justin Schmitz; his granddaughter ZaRiyah Nickaboine; mother Joyce Notch, sister Pam Burns, brothers Steve and Tom Notch, son-in-law Marcus Nickaboine, godson Anthony Notch, nieces and nephews and family friends Cass Ellingboe and Tom Fossell.
    Preceding him were his father Herbert Notch, Sr., brother Michael Notch, and ‘brother from another mother’ Steve Studdard.

    Seems they didn't add
    Stealing
    Kidnapping
    Rape
    Stabbing

    Yes I noticed the RIH , not sure how long that page will stay up, I imagine there would likely be more comments along those lines in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusion View Post
    I've read this thread a few times over the years, and still haven't seen some of my questions/speculations discussed; I'll try a few today.

    I thought it was odd that Mary wanted to leave her stuffed animals to her sister rather than something more personal (jewelry or something like that.) Adding the part about being murdered and how important it is that her wishes be followed (paraphrased, I don't remember the exact words), it seems that there may be something important about her stuffed animals. My question about it is, does anyone know if they were ever inspected to see if one had a name or some other hint of identification on/in it?

    It was also said that Susan had said she didn't want to go with that "man", but Notch would have only been 16 at the time. Is 12 young enough to consider a 16 year old a man? I know I was a lot younger than that and didn't think of my friends' 15, 16 & 18 year old siblings as adults. They were considered "guys" and "girls" to us.

    Another thing I wondered about is: if there was something significant about the stuffed animals, could she have hidden something there that the killer wanted (I haven't a clue what that could be)? If so, could Susan have been tortured first trying to get Mary to say where it was hidden? Another possibility is that she was being used to make Mary more compliant during the assault on her.

    Guess that's enough for this novel, as always, MOO
    ELOCsoul has kindly given permission to quote from his book about the Reker sisters, here's one about the "man"

    theory that more than one person was involved in the murders are the witness accounts who say they saw the Reker sisters with two men–one older and one younger. FBI profilers have suggested a boy about Mary’s age–15 years old–likely committed the stabbings. There was also a report of a suspicious-looking man seen waiting in the driver's seat of his blue Chevrolet Impala in the parking lot outside of Zayre. That, coupled with the fact Susanne complained to Mary she did not want to "go with that man," raises the possibility a young man about 20 years old was involved.

    The theory of the stuffed animals is very good and I hadn't even considered it more than her favourite things. I wonder if the family kept them it would be worthwhile to see if any clue is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusion View Post

    Another thing I wondered about is: if there was something significant about the stuffed animals, could she have hidden something there that the killer wanted (I haven't a clue what that could be)? If so, could Susan have been tortured first trying to get Mary to say where it was hidden? Another possibility is that she was being used to make Mary more compliant during the assault on her.

    Guess that's enough for this novel, as always, MOO
    Now THAT is an excellent question! Mary also like to sew. I'm going to look into this - thank you for the brilliant suggestion. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarrChance View Post
    Thankyou for the clarification, do you know if the James Wagner is a connection ie, he would know Mary from St Clould due to them being cousins?
    I can't say for certain, but I doubt it. Fred Reker was one of ten kids. His brother Milo had ten children, and his brother Alvin had nine children. I don't how many children his other siblings had. With that many cousins, I doubt they would have spent the limited time they had with their cousins introducing them to their friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StarrChance View Post
    Yes this is the "saint" as you so eloquently stated.

    Obituary for Herbert Notch
    Herbert Daniel Notch, Jr. was born on October 5, 1958 in St. Cloud, Minnesota. He died on May 11, 2017 at the St. Cloud Hospital.
    He was baptized and confirmed at St. Anthony’s Catholic Church and received his secondary education in the ALC in St. Cloud. He enlisted in the United States Navy, serving as a fireman recruit in San Diego, California before his honorable discharge in June of 1976. He made his living painting and shingling. In his leisure time, he enjoyed fishing, music, camping, and spending time outdoors. He particularly loved the company of his granddaughter.
    Herbert is survived by Melissa, his girlfriend of 25 years; his children: Heather Notch, McKenzie Notch and Justin Schmitz; his granddaughter ZaRiyah Nickaboine; mother Joyce Notch, sister Pam Burns, brothers Steve and Tom Notch, son-in-law Marcus Nickaboine, godson Anthony Notch, nieces and nephews and family friends Cass Ellingboe and Tom Fossell.
    Preceding him were his father Herbert Notch, Sr., brother Michael Notch, and ‘brother from another mother’ Steve Studdard.

    Seems they didn't add
    Stealing
    Kidnapping
    Rape
    Stabbing

    Yes I noticed the RIH , not sure how long that page will stay up, I imagine there would likely be more comments along those lines in the future.
    I'm guessing they have not figured out the RIH part yet. It's not as easy as POS, MF, etc. but it's just as funny.
    So his death should be a significant event, but we've not heard much about it. When you read everything about this case, you see that HDN has been an "unofficial" suspect / person of interest. Read between the lines from what the Reker's, the media, and law enforcement have said (and not said) and it is clear they all think this guy was involved. So you would think you might hear a peep about this development; but nothing. Has there been any word on his COD? He might have known his day of reckoning was coming. Maybe he had a last opportunity to make a deathbed statement, perhaps admitting his involvement and fingering another person as an accomplice. If there is a surviving accomplice, I bet they are pretty worried right about now.
    btw, sometimes when LE feels they "know" somebody committed a crime, and then that person dies before they are charged, LE might even close the case. l would like to hear a statement from LE on the official current status of this case now, and what if any effect HDN's death has on it.
    Another thing, if he was involved, its possible he could have confided in somebody (family, friend...) over the years, and maybe they now can feel safe to come forward at this time with what they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zensiert View Post
    I'm guessing they have not figured out the RIH part yet. It's not as easy as POS, MF, etc. but it's just as funny.
    So his death should be a significant event, but we've not heard much about it. When you read everything about this case, you see that HDN has been an "unofficial" suspect / person of interest. Read between the lines from what the Reker's, the media, and law enforcement have said (and not said) and it is clear they all think this guy was involved. So you would think you might hear a peep about this development; but nothing. Has there been any word on his COD? He might have known his day of reckoning was coming. Maybe he had a last opportunity to make a deathbed statement, perhaps admitting his involvement and fingering another person as an accomplice. If there is a surviving accomplice, I bet they are pretty worried right about now.
    btw, sometimes when LE feels they "know" somebody committed a crime, and then that person dies before they are charged, LE might even close the case. l would like to hear a statement from LE on the official current status of this case now, and what if any effect HDN's death has on it.
    Another thing, if he was involved, its possible he could have confided in somebody (family, friend...) over the years, and maybe they now can feel safe to come forward at this time with what they know.
    ELOCsoul Author of the Reker sisters book has told me he died from liver failure. He also indicated they may be some movement in the case in the future.
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    That is interesting. Now in hindsight, if you look back over the past year there are several indications from LE and the press that they knew he was sick and probably dying. There were vague references that now make more sense. Seems they were working on him as well as his friends and family as his time on earth drew to an end .

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    It's interesting to note that throughout this past Labor Day weekend 2017 we did not hear the usual annual pleas from LE for the public's help with solving the Reker Sisters murders. Neither did we hear anything when convicted rapist and potential suspect Herb Notch died in May. Additionally, LE has been unresponsive regarding their awareness of convicted murderer and pedophile, Lloyd Lee Welch Jr., having been in St. Cloud that same 1974 Labor Day weekend, and his attempted rape of a young woman at knifepoint.

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    Actually the locations of where that store was is in incorrect. If you type in google map cashwise Waite Park 45 2nd st South Waite Park you will see from the Reker residence to that cashwise is 51 min walk. If you google Zayres St. Cloud 1974 you look at the building it is the cashwise in Waite Park. Then if you map out from cash wise to the quarry park you see that is 2 miles which is notated how far the quarry is to the last store location they were seen at. Not to mention it states shopko across the street. I just got done reading the book. What I like to know is what kind of car did notch have? Selling knives made me think of cutco. Was he a salesman for them on the side? Did the guy whom seen them at Zayres happen to catch the license plate number to the blue Chevy impala? How many people owned one at that time? Could they not search the data base at the DMV and get list of everyone who has owned a blue Chevy impala? St. Cloud I guess is big but out skirts isn’t that big. Also did Mary leave any other clues in her diary? I pray Rita gets her answer. My father in law whom passed away back in 2012 his family growing up used to live on their street and they were friends and went to the same church. So I pray Rita and the rest of her family find the answers they waited for for many decades.

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