Yep, that's why I pointed out tracking dogs specifically. Once again supports the belief that they haven't brought out anything but police K9's. With all the detail he gave in that article about the distance's searched, he would have specified if they had brought in other dogs too.
Officials were out taking pictures today in the area and had the traffic blocked at times. I didn't see it but someone that works at the power plant saw it when he was coming home.
Most SAR dogs are handled, trained and owned by private citizens, yes. Very few police departments have SAR dogs on staff.
A handler and the dog go through training together, at least initially. Generally the process of training a handler and a dog takes about 2 years. (The dog is often ready before the human is!).
Human Remains Detection dogs or HRD dogs (wrongly put out in the media as cadaver dogs, but that's another story), area search dogs, trailing dogs, tracking dogs, avalanche dogs, water search dogs, disaster dogs are all their own disciplines. Some dogs are cross trained, but this just adds to the time before they are mission ready, so most specialize.
NASAR or North American Search and Rescue is the industry standard organization for SAR both human and K9. There are different levels of testing/qualifications depending on the amount of training and knowledge you and your dog have. There are also FEMA certifications for those in very specific disciplines and at a very high level.
There are other orgs that a person can certify through, but this is the most known. There are also areas where anyone can go "train" there dog and get called (yes, it really does happen). This is why there is such a huge range in the quality of dogs. There is also the issue of people who train for the test and not for real searches, but that is also a whole other rant.
Hope that helps.
I'm assuming that the family is familiar with the area they were driving in, so I would guess that she probably wouldn't have walked unknowingly into some field or towards the lights of the power plant. I'd expect that from someone who is a stranger.
I used to think that she might have wandered off into the field, but now I think she might have tried to walk on the road.
It is strange though that she didn't try to use her own cellphone, why use her husbands?
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, did the police ever say if the car was found on or off?
Below are just a few random samples of missing person searches and how they were later found.
“We have confirmation that Georgie is at peace,” his family wrote on Facebook. “His earthly body was found by the Maroon Creek Bridge in Truscott. An area that had been searched by the best Search and Rescue teams, dogs and our family… We ask for your continued prayers while we figure out what happened to Georgie.”
Aldrich was found by members of Mountain Rescue – Aspen, who were off duty at the time. But after the official search was called off last Friday, they followed up on their pledge to keep looking for Aldrich.
"We started at the last known point, which was the bus stop and working around there. Quite frankly it was a fluke. It was not obvious at all," said Doug Paley of Mountain Rescue - Aspen.
BIG BEAR LAKE - A man missing since Thanksgiving weekend has been found dead buried in snow not far from where he wandered off.
The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department says the body of Bryson Lukacik was discovered Friday by contractors who were working on a property two blocks from a vacation cabin where Lukacik had been staying with his father and father's girlfriend.
Bryson went downstairs after talking with his family and was believed to have gone to bed. Shortly after midnight early Saturday morning, his parents heard the front door open and close, KUSI news reports, but by the time they got their boots and jackets on, he was gone. A search outside failed to find him. The family notified authorities and a massive search was conducted including search dogs and a helicopter.
The Union-Tribune reports that Lukacik’s father, Joe, said it appeared that his son was trying to get into a home and snow from the roof fell on top of him. "He basically froze to death in the snow," Joe Lukacik said.
The body of 52-year-old Daniel Olds of Toutle was found Saturday by a family member. The body was located a short distance from Mr. Olds' residence, just off of a trail leading near his home.
The area had been searched many times but until the recent thawing had been covered by heavy snow. A sheriff's deputy had searched through the area just a short time prior to the body being discovered.
WOODLAND PARK, Colo. -- A frozen body found behind Woodland Park High School Wednesday has been identified as a missing mother.
Mindy Lee was reported missing on Nov. 26. Friends said the Manitou Springs woman got out of a truck near Woodland Park High School on Friday night and ran away. The 5-foot-3 inch woman was shoeless and wearing a red shirt and black pants.
At 8:13 a.m. Wednesday, officers found a woman's body near a shed across an athletic field from the high school, said Woodland Park Deputy Police Chief John Gomes.
The body was covered with snow, but a police officer spotted a patch of red clothing poking through snow, he said.
K-9 teams had searched the general area this past weekend.
And who was the young man with schzophrenia who was missing for a few years, I think..? then was found right by the side of the road within a few miles from him home..? They think that he was hidden under the snow drifts that the plows pushed to the side... anyone know who I'm talking about? I think his name was Lance..? from NH?
Is there evidence that she used either? I missed it if there was.
Her phone was later found in the car but that doesn't mean she knew where it was.
Her husband's phone was pinging in the area of the crash but it's not doing that any more and I'm unsure whether LE ever found it.
Here comes the next blast of weather. This will hamper further efforts for a time again I am sure. Still praying for some sort of closure, good or bad, for her family.
A MOO MOO here, a MOO MOO there, here a MOO, there a MOO, everywhere a MOO MOO
Giving blogging a stab. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/blog.php?49066-tlcya-the-Good-the-Bad-the-Websleuth
I really really really wish those buildings and trees, bushes, undergrowth down around the 2700 block would be searched more thoroughly...if they haven't. And also at the front main gate area of the nuclear facility.
Just a thought, Do they use anything like a snowcat ( see link) up there?? It would give searchers chances to take turns and warm up, between being looking...not constantly exposed to the elements.
Just a friendly reminder to those who have been using Google maps and the like to spot trees and brush she may have sought for shelter: Those maps haven't been updated in several years. The house I live in now has been here almost 5 years and still shows as a patch of green grass on those maps (and it's in the middle of town). So it's a good chance that the country foliage could have changed within 5 years as well and wouldn't be updated on those maps. Not saying drastic differences, being as some tree lines would likely still be there, but the farmers rotate crops and may have cut away some things for agricultural purposes.
Just a thought.
April 18, 2006
Skeletal remains found Friday near Interstate 93 were identified yesterday as those of a Chichester man missing since 2001.
Lorne Boulet, 21, who suffered from schizophrenia, left his parents' home at about 5:30 p.m. July 29, 2001.
Has a cause of death been released for Dale?
ETA: Sorry, they are waiting for tox reports:
Preliminary autopsy results indicate Dale Shannon died of spinal injuries consistent with a rear-end collision with a utility pole, according to LaSalle County Coroner Jody Bernard. Toxicology reports are expected next week.
Yes, that's him- thanks! But apparently my memory was playing tricks on me.... (which it does often).. there was actually no snow involved,, since he went missing in the summer and was found in the spring. Although obviously it did help hide his body in the winter season(s) while he was unaccounted for.
thanks CastleFan, yes that is true. No telling how things have changed...
Well, I was thinking mainly about the landscaping type areas around the buildings and entrance to the nuclear facility, not necessarily out in the fields/clearings. Maybe that kind of stuff is still there.
On all the other cases, I agree... these were searches where they were missed.
The last one, Mindy Lee.... was complete incompetence. They just simply did not search until it was too late. They had plenty of time to find her (alive) before it snowed and they just didn't look.
Yes... I might still be a little bit bitter about that one.
I don't see that being an issue in Tanya's case. They appear to have actually been looking for her.