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    Clarification of Expert Witnesses WARNING!! snippy

    Here is Jose Baez' response for clarification of expert witnesses.....I am detecting a ton of attitude here....what is he THINKING!!!??

    http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...0121512020.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris View Post
    Here is Jose Baez' response for clarification of expert witnesses.....I am detecting a ton of attitude here....what is he THINKING!!!??

    http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...0121512020.pdf
    Me too! What a lot of nothing ... Jose has not given anything to the state that Ashton was not already aware of and IMO is definitely NOT what he was told to do !! Although it's not really surprising, it should be interesting to hear Jose try to defend his "compliance" with the judge's order ... Judge Perry was pretty clear !!

    Just as a refresher:
    Judge Perry: "It is here by ordered by this court where experts have not prepared reports or examination of their test, on reports on their examinations of tests both the State and the defense are required to provide the following and you will receive this in writing.
    The expertís curriculum vita, a qualificationís of expert,
    the expertís field of expertise on medical specialty,
    a statement of the specific subjects upon which the expert will testify and offer opinions,
    the substance of the facts to which the expert is expected to testify and last but not least a summary of the experts opinion and grounds for each opinion."

    This doesn't even come close to reciprocal discovery ... you know, the kind of discovery the state has been turning over for the past two years ... jeeze
    Not only is Jose refusing to comply with the order as it was plainly laid out and NOT his own "interpretation" of it, but he filed this TODAY at 10 AM ... guess he "interpreted" Judge Perry's order to file it by NOON TUESDAY to mean whenever the hell he felt like it!


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    Casey Defense Coughs Up More Info On Expert Testimony

    Defense Expert Exhibits: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

    Defense Expert Witness List: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26146022/detail.html
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    "His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law." (Thank you to TWA) Read their opinion here: http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...ps/sc95855.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris View Post
    Here is Jose Baez' response for clarification of expert witnesses.....I am detecting a ton of attitude here....what is he THINKING!!!??

    http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...0121512020.pdf
    I get a blank page when I try to open. Can you give us an idea of what he said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    I get a blank page when I try to open. Can you give us an idea of what he said?
    Here is the WFTV link to the same document, maybe this will work?: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26146022/detail.html
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    The Florida Bar summed up the problem regarding Mr. Baez.
    "His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law." (Thank you to TWA) Read their opinion here: http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...ps/sc95855.pdf

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    So does JB think the cadaver dogs heard GA and CA when they said the trunk smelled like it had a dead body in it? When you find a body you usually don't need the dogs to identify it as a body. I agree they are a tool pretty much what the experts use in their line of work to come to conclusions. I'm confused. Why would the experts argue about the dogs?

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    Holy attitude, Batman!

    Am I the only one who was disappointed JB didn't break out his box of Crayolas for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    So does JB think the cadaver dogs heard GA and CA when they said the trunk smelled like it had a dead body in it? When you find a body you usually don't need the dogs to identify it as a body. I agree they are a tool pretty much what the experts use in their line of work to come to conclusions. I'm confused. Why would the experts argue about the dogs?

    Yeah, I'd have to say it's pretty ridiculous that JB is suggesting since the dogs can't be "cross-examined" they shouldn't be allowed in. It's common sense what the cadaver dogs do and what it means when they do what they do. What, is his next move going to be to say that the coffin flies shouldn't be allowed in because they can't be questioned? Or maybe the smell of death not allowed since it wasn't "bottled up" that first day? This gives us a pretty clear view into what his defense is going to be.
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    This:

    You don't get a medal for switching alliances just before the result, as it becomes apparent the other team is set to win.

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    am I reading JB wrong? In 4 (b) of Fairgrieve, is he suggesting that since the dogs alerted on the trunk, yard, etc and NO BODY was found in any of those places, that they're obviously not reliable? He uses casey's right to confront her accuser (the dog) and "the fact that the alerts resulted in negative results for human remains".

    Is he for real?
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    What an absolute "unusual person". I can't even believe he put that in a Court pleading.

    Asinine.
    Indeed the Irony IS Rich

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    So it's pretty much confirmed. They have no defense, no alibi, etc. It's simply going to be an attempt to gimmick their way to a not guilty verdict by crafty use of counter-experts. Shameful.

    Is he really arguing that since dogs are a "tool" they shouldn't be allowed to be used?? This is so poorly written and lacking in any type of critical thinking, I don't even know how to interpret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    So does JB think the cadaver dogs heard GA and CA when they said the trunk smelled like it had a dead body in it? When you find a body you usually don't need the dogs to identify it as a body. I agree they are a tool pretty much what the experts use in their line of work to come to conclusions. I'm confused. Why would the experts argue about the dogs?
    I agree that the JB's tone is unprofessional. I guess I am almost immune to it. Sadly, I just expect it now.

    That said, while researching Dr. Fairgrieve, reviewing comments JB has made in other hearings and now, this - it is abundantly clear that JB is gonna do everything he can to exclude the cadaver dog alerts. He is really fighting this one. He does not want jurors to hear about the K-9 alerts on the Pontiac.

    This one is going to be interesting to watch. I've been researching it a bit and was surprised to learn how often cadaver dog alerts are excluded. That in no way means these will be...that is yet to be determined. There are several good links posted throughout the thread on Scott Fairgrieve thread linked here.

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    Duh Baez, they'll be interviewing the dog handlers, not the dogs.
    And your expert that you're using to examine them isn't even a canine expert himself!

    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris View Post
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    well yes in the absence of a body cadaver dogs are not 100% certain... BUT THEY FOUND THE BODY!!!! So you can't declare a person dead on the basis of cadaver dog hits. But once you have the body and are certain that the death did in fact occur, the dogs are much more reliable at determining where the body has been.

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