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    PA - White Haven "Beth Doe" & Unborn Baby 169UFPA, 16-22, Dec'76, #2

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    Wsr ??

    I'm just googling the initials and looking for anything that pops up and looks like an address:

    2990 W. S.R.44. DeLand, Florida


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    I saw a TV show about a missing girl the other night. It took several months for her to be identified because the missing report listed the date (for last known alive) as the date the report was taken. The person who entered it never entered the last seen date.

    So the body was found in Sept. but the report had January on it so the connection was never made until the mother insisted on a dental records check in about March.

    I'm just wondering how many times that blunder may have been made in the past and how it may effect cases such as this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by apearn View Post
    I saw a TV show about a missing girl the other night. It took several months for her to be identified because the missing report listed the date (for last known alive) as the date the report was taken. The person who entered it never entered the last seen date.

    So the body was found in Sept. but the report had January on it so the connection was never made until the mother insisted on a dental records check in about March.

    I'm just wondering how many times that blunder may have been made in the past and how it may effect cases such as this.
    You are referring to Samantha Bonnell. Her thread is right here:

    Identified! CA-(Update: Identified) Traffic Accident: San Bernardino White Female - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    Paula Beverly Davis (AKA the Blue Bandanna Girl) was another case that went 22 years without an identification for the same reason. The Missing Persons Report Date was entered in the DLC (Date of Last Contact) field in the NCIC record.

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    Yes. That sounds like her case.

    I made a facebook page for Beth Doe. Maybe if it gets around someone's memory will get jogged.


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    Has anyone ever considered Valarie Lorraine Cuccia ?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/138dfny.html



    Date Of Birth: October 16, 1953
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6; 120 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Black hair; brown eyes.
    Dentals: Available.
    Marks, Scars: Cuccia has a scar on her left calf.


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    She needs a name- White Haven Doe?

    Anyhow, Here's her DoeNet profile for the second thread. She isn't in NamUs.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snufamonbobball View Post
    She needs a name- White Haven Doe?

    Anyhow, Here's her DoeNet profile for the second thread. She isn't in NamUs.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html
    Her name on the cross & grave marker at the cemetery is Beth Doe.

    http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/bethdoe.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snufamonbobball View Post
    She needs a name- White Haven Doe?

    Anyhow, Here's her DoeNet profile for the second thread. She isn't in NamUs.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html
    They've always been Beth and Baby Doe.
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    This guy was found a little over 3 weeks later than her - about 60 miles away on a pretty straight run south from White Haven - dead of a suicide.

    I'd bet - if they could find his body and match the baby's DNA, he'd be the father.


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    Unidentified White Male


    •The victim was discovered on January 16, 1977 in Albany Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania
    •Probable Year of Death: 1977
    •Cause of Death: Suicide by drug overdose
    •State of Remains: Recognizable Face


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    Vital Statistics

    •Estimated age: 25-35 years old
    •Approximate Height and Weight: 5'10"-5'11; 155 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish brown, long and curly hair; blue eyes. Full beard. T-shaped scar on left side of chin.
    •Clothing: Dark brown suede/buckskin jacket with tassels on the sleeves and torso (size 38); faded blue jeans (Wrangler brand, size 30x34); brown leather belt; brown, knit turtleneck sweater (labeled Jules Pilch-Doylestown/Hatboro, size "M"); long winter undershirt and pants (size "S"), military issue with laundry mark B-0654; two pair of socks (one pair black, the other wool); brown leather hiking boots, ankle length with black Vibran soles (size 10-10 1/2); leather gloves; sunglasses.
    •Personal Effects: He was wearing a 14K white gold ring with a blue stone; his pockets contained a comb, pen, pencil, matches and $1.78.
    •Fingerprints: Not Available
    •Dentals: Not Available


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    Case History
    The frozen body of the victim was found by two hikers in a cave below an area called The Pinnacle along the Appalachian Trail, in Albany Township, Pennsylvania on January 16, 1977. The cave where he was found is only accessible by foot.
    There is little documentation available for this unidentified man. Any photos, autopsy reports, possible fingerprints or dental records have been lost. He was buried in the Berks County Potters Field, however, there are no burial plot records available and his exact location in the cemetery is unknown at this time.


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    I'm familiar with this area. The Pinnacle is a pretty popular hiking area, especially in the fall when you get great views. It's well known, anyway, and it's a bit of a stretch, I think, to assume this unknown man was involved with Beth and baby Doe. It's possible, of course, but I don't think there's any reason to connect the two.


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    This article was posted in the thread for the bodies found recently on Long Island, but it includes information about many other LI murders. http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/...rial-killer/5/

    At least two of the dumped bodies are dismembered and in luggage, which I thought was an interesting connection. It's certainly within the realm of possibility that Beth's murderer started looking for a dump site closer to home, if he came from NYC.
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    I'm familiar with this area. The Pinnacle is a pretty popular hiking area, especially in the fall when you get great views. It's well known, anyway, and it's a bit of a stretch, I think, to assume this unknown man was involved with Beth and baby Doe. It's possible, of course, but I don't think there's any reason to connect the two.
    I'm wondering what the population of that area was in 1976. It seems a pretty tight distance and timeframe to have an unidentified homicide victim & an unidentified suicide victim that are unrelated - and both never identified.

    There is a resovoir right by there. Do you know if a car was ever found in it?

    I'm thinking he could have been there a week or so longer than they think since it was a cold time of year. Richard Kluklinski used to freeze his victims to mess up the time of death.

    I keep looking at this girl as well: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1290dfmd.html

    and wondering if she was pregnant and that was the 'family problems'.

    She seems more likely to have gone in the bay than a river 3 hours north - unless there was some connection to PA.


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    I know that this is probably a coincidence, but besides Doe Network Case File 598UFCA and Doe Network Case File 147UFPA, I remembered another case of a dark haired possibly foreign women dismembered in suitcases -- Doe Network Case File 338UFNV.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/338ufnv.html


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    The other day I was watching a show...I think it was called Runaways. It had 2 young females who had run away. I was astonished about the time that had lapsed - one had been away from her family 11 years or so and the other one 5 years. Both were out on the streets.

    Basically ,it made me think to go back further in time for possible matches.

    This one caught my eye.




    Rose Lena Cole
    Missing since the July 1, 1973 from Oakland, Alameda County, California
    Classification: Endangered Runaway


    Vital Statistics
    •Date Of Birth: December 23, 1956
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"-5'6"; 120 -130 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; green/hazel eyes.
    •Dentals: Not available
    •DNA: Available


    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Cole was last seen in Oakland, California in the summer of 1973. Cole was last seen in Oakland, California. She could be missing from California, Michigan, or in between.

    After an incident of running away from home and apparent participation with drugs, Cole was sent by the court in Flint, Michigan, to reside at Synanon drug rehabilitation program in the summer of 1972. Synanon was initially a drug rehabilitation program founded by Charles Dederich Sr. in 1958 in Santa Monica, California. Her date of disappearance can not quite be pinned down. The last letter her family received was dated December 1972, but was not mailed for over a month. According to her letters, her family situation was difficult for her. In them she begged to come home and to be loved.



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