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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    I just did a quick count and since 12/21 the defense has filed 19 motions (I may have missed one or two).

    I am wondering if the next motion will be:

    Motion in Limine to exclude any and all mention of the fact that Caylee was missing for 31 days before being reported missing by her grandmother. I am sure he is going to state that the 31 days is 'utterly irrelevant to the case at hand' and that 'any alleged probative value of the mention of the 31 days is substantially outweighed by by it's potential prejudicial effect on the jury'

    If in the world accoding to JB, all these motions were granted - would there be anything left to argue at the trial?
    Whether or not all those fragile tiny bones scattered over an acre of brush and swamp land actually belonged to little Caylee???

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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    AAACCCCKKKKK! :



    Why oh why do I have to work right now. I keep dipping back in and are happening while I am busy doing while you are having fun doing at Baez's motions.

    What every happened to damned life work balance!!! Oh well, I've only got an hour to go if I just quit moaning and get on with it. and I"ll be back shortly.
    It's alright LG, we've all been there before. I'm working this weekend, just so I can watch the hearing with a clear conscious.
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    It's a good thing the courthouse is closed tomorrow! If it wasn't I am wondering if we would see another 10 - 20 motions filed at 4:29 pm tomorrow afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    It's a good thing the courthouse is closed tomorrow! If it wasn't I am wondering if we would see another 10 - 20 motions filed at 4:29 pm tomorrow afternoon.
    I'm not happy with Baez making the good folks at the clerk's office working past quitting time today. The time on one of the faxes makes me wonder if their fax machine could still be spitting out pages right now (and we'll see the entry of even more motions Monday following the holiday).

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    Do you think the judge will be hearing ALL of the motions on Monday?
    Geeeez louise, team Casey have been working their slimy fingers to the bone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nums24 View Post
    They filed it to Judge Strickland!!!
    Wait! What...OMG seriously? Someone needs to do a little proof reading when copy / pasting old work. So they've had these waiting in the wings for awhile then no doubt.....anyone else thinking a few 'no longer with us' lawyers did the writing?
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    I don't know if they can hear all of the motions on January 3rd? It seems like an awful lot to go over in one day? I could be wrong, but I also thought that Judge Perry said he thought he might be sitting in on a trial this week and that he had no problem scheduling anything after 5pm if they need to be heard... that was into reply to Jeff Ashton stating that he may need him this week. I might have my dates mixed up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    AAACCCCKKKKK! :



    Why oh why do I have to work right now. I keep dipping back in and are happening while I am busy doing while you are having fun doing at Baez's motions.

    What every happened to damned life work balance!!! Oh well, I've only got an hour to go if I just quit moaning and get on with it. and I"ll be back shortly.
    LOL you make me laugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzikman View Post
    Here's the motion from yesterday -

    2010.12.29 Defense Motion to Exclude Unreliable Evidence - Trunk Smell
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/68137874...iable-Evidence

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    "The Oakridge National Laboratories refused to comply with...[blah...blah blah]...choosing to mask the empirical data relied upon for it's [sic] conclusions and instead has taken a rare unheard of "trust me" approach to science."
    TRUST ME, huh...where have I heard those words before?

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    I wonder how many of these motions can be ruled on without a hearing? I would imagine the State would not argue against the Jib Jab video - it is just too minor to worry about. That is just about the only one that I think could go away without affecting the state's case. Maybe the knife too, but that is just a maybe. There are a few I think the Judge will grant, but don't know if he would do it without a hearing. I doubt all of them will be heard Monday because the State will have to have time to put their thoughts together to argue against granting them. While I think LDB and JA are both heroic in all that they do, even they would need super powers to get all this done by Monday afternoon. I would imagine the first six will be heard, along with JA's motion for sanctions, and maybe the JAC filing would come up. I would think HHJP will have seen the rest of the motions and set a hearing date for them.

    I am still not sure a lot of these motions will even be heard. I agree with the posters who say that some of them were filed past the deadline of Nov. 30th, but that JB will claim he thought he had until the 31st to file. I find it very interesting that there is no Kronk motion in this group. I guess he realized he could not get away with filing that one late since HHJP called him on it in open court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    I just did a quick count and since 12/21 the defense has filed 19 motions (I may have missed one or two).

    I am wondering if the next motion will be:

    Motion in Limine to exclude any and all mention of the fact that Caylee was missing for 31 days before being reported missing by her grandmother. I am sure he is going to state that the 31 days is 'utterly irrelevant to the case at hand' and that 'any alleged probative value of the mention of the 31 days is substantially outweighed by by it's potential prejudicial effect on the jury'

    If in the world accoding to JB, all these motions were granted - would there be anything left to argue at the trial?
    bbm
    In JB's world there shouldn't even be a trial!
    This is very upsetting, how can he be brazen enough to even think so much crucial evidence can be excluded? Is this normal pretrial behavior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    I just did a quick count and since 12/21 the defense has filed 19 motions (I may have missed one or two).

    I am wondering if the next motion will be:

    Motion in Limine to exclude any and all mention of the fact that Caylee was missing for 31 days before being reported missing by her grandmother. I am sure he is going to state that the 31 days is 'utterly irrelevant to the case at hand' and that 'any alleged probative value of the mention of the 31 days is substantially outweighed by by it's potential prejudicial effect on the jury'

    If in the world accoding to JB, all these motions were granted - would there be anything left to argue at the trial?
    That appears to be Jose's strategy, his ONLY strategy ... get ALL of the evidence tossed ...

    (But don't give him any ideas about the "31 days" ... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    bbm
    In JB's world there shouldn't even be a trial!
    This is very upsetting, how can he be brazen enough to even think so much crucial evidence can be excluded? Is this normal pretrial behavior?
    Yes, and thank god he's doing this. It reduces the chance of an ineffective assistance of counsel argument down the road.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
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    Quote Originally Posted by denjet View Post
    That appears to be Jose's strategy, his ONLY strategy ... get ALL of the evidence tossed ...

    (But don't give him any ideas about the "31 days" ... )
    Heck, I'd like to hear a better strategy considering what the defense team has to work with.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    Heck, I'd like to hear a better strategy considering what the defense team has to work with.
    Good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    Yes, and thank god he's doing this. It reduces the chance of an ineffective assistance of counsel argument down the road.
    Thanks AZ, it was pretty shocking for me when I read that last loooong list of motions......hopefully he will be shot down (not literally) on the majority of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    I wonder how many of these motions can be ruled on without a hearing? I would imagine the State would not argue against the Jib Jab video - it is just too minor to worry about. That is just about the only one that I think could go away without affecting the state's case. Maybe the knife too, but that is just a maybe. There are a few I think the Judge will grant, but don't know if he would do it without a hearing. I doubt all of them will be heard Monday because the State will have to have time to put their thoughts together to argue against granting them. While I think LDB and JA are both heroic in all that they do, even they would need super powers to get all this done by Monday afternoon. I would imagine the first six will be heard, along with JA's motion for sanctions, and maybe the JAC filing would come up. I would think HHJP will have seen the rest of the motions and set a hearing date for them.

    I am still not sure a lot of these motions will even be heard. I agree with the posters who say that some of them were filed past the deadline of Nov. 30th, but that JB will claim he thought he had until the 31st to file. I find it very interesting that there is no Kronk motion in this group. I guess he realized he could not get away with filing that one late since HHJP called him on it in open court.
    The timing of all these motions are suspect. The SA are busy trying to depose the defenses expert witnesses. It's almost like they saved everything to throw at the SA at the last minute.
    Pretty lame defense tactic, and to me it shows that they have an extremely weak case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nums24 View Post
    I thought it might be a copy and paste from their prior motion to have it sealed.
    I think that is exactly what happened. The paralegal/atty just pulled up the old motion and failed to edit. omg...just ONCE ...just one.time. I would love to see a motion filed with no glaring errors and include ALL appropriate parties on the certificate of service. It makes me crazy because it just ain't THAT hard to get it right. If I had to draft motions for a case where I knew my work would appear on media sites for public viewing within hours of filing, I can guarantee you I would be beyond anal about proofing it.

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    Not sure it was a copy paste from a previous motion to seal. The motion to seal has
    JUDGE: STAN STRICKLAND (ALL CAPS)
    This new one has:
    Hon. Stan Strickland

    Could Finnell have done this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    I wonder how many of these motions can be ruled on without a hearing? I would imagine the State would not argue against the Jib Jab video - it is just too minor to worry about. That is just about the only one that I think could go away without affecting the state's case. Maybe the knife too, but that is just a maybe. There are a few I think the Judge will grant, but don't know if he would do it without a hearing. I doubt all of them will be heard Monday because the State will have to have time to put their thoughts together to argue against granting them. While I think LDB and JA are both heroic in all that they do, even they would need super powers to get all this done by Monday afternoon. I would imagine the first six will be heard, along with JA's motion for sanctions, and maybe the JAC filing would come up. I would think HHJP will have seen the rest of the motions and set a hearing date for them.

    I am still not sure a lot of these motions will even be heard. I agree with the posters who say that some of them were filed past the deadline of Nov. 30th, but that JB will claim he thought he had until the 31st to file. I find it very interesting that there is no Kronk motion in this group. I guess he realized he could not get away with filing that one late since HHJP called him on it in open court.
    Also, I think the state has already argued against some of the nonsense ones like MySpace and Hearsay ones and stuff the Anthonys have said ... they may be prepared to respond to most of them ... at least the less critical ones
    And yes, no sign of any Kronk one ... YAY ... that's a good sign
    But the best outcome of all would be for Judge Perry to say "Mr Baez, you've known the schedule since (such and such), you've been reminded and warned of the deadlines and have not adhered to them ... your motions are denied WITH prejudice" ... NEXT

    I'm hoping that the forensic/scientific ones get set for another date and the rest .. oh well, too bad

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    12/30/2010 Motion In Limine Preclude the use in any Fashion Whatsoever of a Certain "Jib Jab" Cartoon

    Can someone please explain to me, seriously, why the defense would file this motion??? Why would they even THINK the State would use something so lame and pathetic as "evidence" in a capital murder trial??

    I seriously do not understand this one.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaz View Post
    12/30/2010 Motion In Limine Preclude the use in any Fashion Whatsoever of a Certain "Jib Jab" Cartoon

    Can someone please explain to me, seriously, why the defense would file this motion??? Why would they even THINK the State would use something so lame and pathetic as "evidence" in a capital murder trial??

    I seriously do not understand this one.....

    TIA!
    That one totally baffles me. CRAZY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaz View Post
    12/30/2010 Motion In Limine Preclude the use in any Fashion Whatsoever of a Certain "Jib Jab" Cartoon

    Can someone please explain to me, seriously, why the defense would file this motion??? Why would they even THINK the State would use something so lame and pathetic as "evidence" in a capital murder trial??

    I seriously do not understand this one.....

    TIA!
    Your not alone ... what on earth it has to do with anything is beyond me
    I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it listed in discovery either ... so maybe it's just Jose who's panties are in a twist over it (meaning it probably has nothing to do with KC and more with the way HE was depicted) ...
    I'm reminded of the stink he made over his myspace photo that showed up on ************'s site (after being photoshopped) ... his priorities are sure screwed up ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedrys View Post
    Yeah, I can see that: Motion to exclude EVERYTHING.

    That's literally what it would have to be titled. And there's no way he'd win it either.
    Holy Moly! I go shopping today and come back to find out that JB has added a whole slew of new motions! He really should have just made one motion asking that everything that would implicate his client be excluded from the trial.

    With that list of motions, Monday's hearing won't be completed until Wednesday!
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    I think Baez is flinging as much spaghetti as he can to see what he can get to stick.
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