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    UK - Architect: Jo Yeates, 27, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 - #1

    Parents fear missing architect Joanna Yeates was abducted
    Mystery surrounds disappearance of 25-year-old woman, who was last seen on Friday after Christmas drink in Bristol

    The distraught parents of a 25-year-old woman, missing for almost one week, said today they believed she had been abducted and begged anyone holding her to "let her come back".

    Landscape architect Joanna Yeates has been missing since she went for a Christmas drink in Bristol with colleagues after work on Friday. Her boyfriend, Greg Reardon, 27, who was visiting family in Sheffield at the weekend, raised the alarm after returning late on Sunday to the Clifton flat they shared only to discover her gone, even though possessions including her phone, keys, coat and purse were in the flat. He had been unable to contact her by phone over the weekend.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/de...parents-appeal

    Officers searching for architect Jo Yeates investigating similarities with missing chef Claudia Lawrence

    Detectives investigating the disappearance of architect Jo Yeates are looking at similarities with the vanishing of chef Claudia Lawrence.

    Officers admitted today the cases are factually similar - but said there is no evidence yet to suggest the cases are linked.

    Blonde Claudia, 35, vanished from her home in Heworth, York, in March 2009 and was reported missing when she failed to turn up for work.
    RIDDLE OF THE PIZZA

    A missing pizza could be crucial in the search for Jo. Police know she left the Ram pub in Park Street, Bristol, after drinks with work friends at 8 p.m. She walked out alone, before visiting....Tesco Express, on Regent Street, at 8:40 p.m., less than a half mile from her home.

    Everything she had with her from the trip home, including her coat, purse, phone, shopping, and timed receipt from Tesco Express, was found in her flat - except for a Tesco Finest mozzarella, tomato, and basil pesto pizza and its wrapping.
    much more at
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    Missing Joanna Yeates - police believe Bristol woman is still alive

    A team of 70 police officers is working tirelessly to find missing Bristol woman Joanna Yeates a full week after she was last seen.

    Avon and Somerset Police Chief Superintendent Jon Stratford today told reporters outside the Clifton home of the 25-year-old architect that the hunt for Joanna will carry on right through Christmas, and that he was hopeful of finding her alive.

    He said: "This is still a missing person investigation and we hope there is some explanation behind this and to return her back to her family.
    http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/...l/article.html

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    thanks for posting this, wfgodot...I heard about this case via twitter...it's so odd about the pizza, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    thanks for posting this, wfgodot...I heard about this case via twitter...it's so odd about the pizza, isn't it?
    Yes, I almost included the missing pizza in the thread title, but couldn't think how not to make it sound as important as Jo being missing! But it's the ingredient that definitely makes the case strange beyond the normal missing persons sadness.

    What could it mean?

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    Well, she probably wasn't planning to go far without her purse, phone etc so maybe she was meeting someone in her building? To share a pizza supper?

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    lstrel, that was my exact thought... that she was planning to share the pizza with someone inside that building. I wonder how many neighbors they have?

    This is indeed strange. I pray that Jo will be home with her family for Christmas!
    A run-away may leave on purpose, but that doesn't mean that they are able to get back home.... Never stop searching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstrel View Post
    Well, she probably wasn't planning to go far without her purse, phone etc so maybe she was meeting someone in her building? To share a pizza supper?
    That's what I was thinking - meet a friend for a quick bite of pizza, be back soon. The leaving of the coat behind would either indicate a neighbor nearby or a quick dash into a warm car awaiting her - perhaps a secret assignation while the boyfriend was out of town?

    Pizza gets its own Guardian article; good synopsis of case so far also:
    Joanna Yeates: police release new CCTV images
    Footage shows missing architect buying a pizza in Tesco the night she disappeared

    ETA

    Here's Sky News on the subject, with several videos
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    I wonder if the place she lived in is like apartment buildings here where they have trash disposal on every floor. Is it possible she ate the pizza and when she went to drop the box down the disposal, someone abducted her? That would explain the missing box and the fact that she left her purse etc. in the flat. I agree it's more likely she ate it with a neighbour though & if that's the case, then it won't be long before they identify who.

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    I dunno, I get a different vibe from the pizza (probably because of past things I have come across on WS.) I have this feeling someone was in the house when she got there and took her and the pizza. Trash for that entire building would be an easy thing to come across, imo (which I see they have done in that article.) If they haven't found it in the apartments, there will come a time when they do - if they do.
    How does the UK work in terms of investigation? Do they need things like a warrant to search her entire building? Also, has the BF that lives with her spoke out yet?

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    Her BF said that he had left for his parents' house before she got home... But,what if he hadn't ? They ate the pizza. Did they argue maybe ? He mentioned something about it being a big deal for a boyfriend to meet his girlfriend's parents.Which he was supposed to do soon. They had just started living together in this flat.

    I can't really see a stranger waiting in the flat for her. And can't really see her going to eat pizza with a neighbor,and being murdered. LE would know if anyone had called her about coming over to the flat that night,or that weekend. I wonder if they checked her call records, and her emails ?

    I don't think she was abducted by a stranger. MOO

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    Police searching for Joanna Yeates say they have found a woman's body near a golf course.

    sad news on Christmas Day for a loved one's family

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...ates_Find_Body

    ETA:

    Discovery made about four miles from the missing architect's flat

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mans-body.html
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    It is understood, but has not yet been confirmed, that the body is of the missing Clifton woman.
    http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/...l/article.html

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    Relief and despair of Joanna's father as body is found

    Speaking to The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Yeates said: "Of course we don't know for sure that it's her but we assume that it is.

    "Nobody else has been reported missing and it's the body of a young girl close to where Jo disappeared. It hasn't been a Christmas for us. I don't know what it's been. It's been surreal, totally unreal. We're just waiting now for the police to tell us what we suspect.

    "In truth we feel like we hope ... we would be relieved if it was her. We don't want to go to our graves wondering where she is and not being given the chance to say goodbye to her. We assume that she's dead so we'd like to say goodbye ... our lives have gone."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/majo...-is-found.html

    "Our lives have gone" - terribly, terribly sad.

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    It IS Joanna: Police satisfied woman's body found on snowy verge is missing landscape architect

    *Results of the post mortem delayed because of the body's 'frozen condition'
    *Architect's devastated family told the news by detectives
    *Anguished boyfriend left in 'absolute pieces' by 25-year-old's death

    Police are 'satisfied' a body found yesterday is missing architect Joanna Yeates.

    They said at this stage they are treating the death as suspicious, but are waiting on the results of a post mortem examination.
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    An Avon and Somerset police spokesman said: 'We are satisfied the body is Joanna Yeates, but this is pending the results of a post mortem which is not expected for at least 24 hours due to the nature of how she was found in such extreme conditions.'
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-parents.html

    Manhunt After Missing Joanna's Body Found

    "Police will be looking at CCTV pictures further afield and of great interest to them will be Clifton suspension bridge because that is the only way to get from Joanna's flat to where the body was found," Sharp added.

    "It is a notorious suicide spot and is heavily decked out in CCTV cameras so police will be going through those to see who has been going over that bridge."
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...%2C_Police_Say
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    This is so sad....waiting to hear word of what happened.

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    Daily Mail again, doing the tabloid thing

    Was Jo held prisoner for eight days? Mystery of lost week as architect's body is found in snow

    The body of Joanna Yeates may have been dumped by the side of a road in the early hours of Christmas Day, it emerged yesterday.

    Its discovery raises the prospect that the 25-year-old landscape architect may have been held captive since she was last seen on Friday, December 17.

    The road, despite its semi-rural location, is regularly used by drivers and pedestrians, and locals say the body would have been noticed on Christmas Eve if it had been there.
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    Whoever dumped her there would have also relied on a low chance of anyone witnessing the act late on a freezing Christmas Eve.
    and more, at
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    From a very interesting and thorough Independent article:

    Mr Yeates was convinced that his daughter was abducted after seeing the bizarre scene at her flat. "We knew what the flat was like," he said. "We know what she does and doesn't do. We were 100 per cent convinced within 30 minutes of arriving at the flat that she had been abducted."
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    On Avon and Somerset Police's unusual pursuit of the pizza clue, Chief Superintendent Jon Stratford said: "There is obviously the possibility that she went somewhere else to eat that pizza. All we know is that we found her possessions inside the flat along with the receipt, but not the pizza. So she did get back in on the Friday evening."
    much more, at
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    No obvious cause of death on her body ... They will wait for the autopsy to reveal the cause of death... How strange this is. They are looking at the computer records and phone recocords of her boyfriend. But, they say that he's probably not involved... Her parents seem convinced she was abducted because the flat was not as she usually kept it... I wonder if there were signs of a struggle ? Or was her killer looking for something ? Could she have interrupted a burglary which went bad ? Only the pizza is reported as missing, though. Please tell me that this young woman didn't loose her life because one or more lowlifes were robbing the place when she came in ? Did they kill her and then eat the pizza ? This is just bizarre... MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    From a very interesting and thorough Independent article:



    much more, at
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    Re: the Dad's comment ...

    ... "We know what she does and doesn't do. We were 100 per cent convinced within 30 minutes of arriving at the flat that she had been abducted."

    Maybe the smell of cigarettes in the apartment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    No obvious cause of death on her body ... They will wait for the autopsy to reveal the cause of death... How strange this is. They are looking at the computer records and phone recocords of her boyfriend. But, they say that he's probably not involved... Her parents seem convinced she was abducted because the flat was not as she usually kept it... I wonder if there were signs of a struggle ? Or was her killer looking for something ? Could she have interrupted a burglary which went bad ? Only the pizza is reported as missing, though. Please tell me that this young woman didn't loose her life because one or more lowlifes were robbing the place when she came in ? Did they kill her and then eat the pizza ? This is just bizarre... MOO
    If it was a disturbed burglary, maybe the perps thought they would drop her a few miles away to give themselves a chance to get away before she called the police. Then she succumbed to hypothermia. But apparently no sign of forced entry. Hmmm ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heathcliff View Post
    ... "We know what she does and doesn't do. We were 100 per cent convinced within 30 minutes of arriving at the flat that she had been abducted."
    I am thinking the oven might of been on still.

    This case is really striking because it's the story we all hear about but dread to take reflection on - this could happen to any of us. The most vulnerable place we can be unsuspectingly is in our homes, at least imo.

    [I was about to go on a tangent of speculation here, but I hit my backspace bar for 20 odd minutes and have decided to write something else.]
    The one thing that is blinding me about this case, it's comparable to a disco ball being in the doctors office, boyfriend went out of town that weekend. From earlier reports, if I read them correctly, wasn't she supposed to go and was excited about meeting his parents? The articles of this case, starting from the top of this thread, have changed over time and I am unable to find where I read that - but I could of sworn I read that... unless my eyes have really gone that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbetjello View Post
    I am thinking the oven might of been on still.

    This case is really striking because it's the story we all hear about but dread to take reflection on - this could happen to any of us. The most vulnerable place we can be unsuspectingly is in our homes, at least imo.

    [I was about to go on a tangent of speculation here, but I hit my backspace bar for 20 odd minutes and have decided to write something else.]
    The one thing that is blinding me about this case, it's comparable to a disco ball being in the doctors office, boyfriend went out of town that weekend. From earlier reports, if I read them correctly, wasn't she supposed to go and was excited about meeting his parents? The articles of this case, starting from the top of this thread, have changed over time and I am unable to find where I read that - but I could of sworn I read that... unless my eyes have really gone that bad.
    Don't erase your tangents! I love speculation, and only avoid it myself as I have no native sleuthing abilities whatsoever, lol. Love to read other people's, though!

    Was she supposed to go on the visit over the weekend? I don't recall reading that, though I could have read right by it. Still looking for older articles where that info might have been given.

    The case has been compared both that of the still missing Claudia Lawrence (WS thread-link above in first post), and to that of Melanie Hall fourteen years ago:

    Detectives have highlighted the ‘striking similarities’ between Miss Yeates’s disappearance and the unsolved murder of Melanie Hall.

    Miss Hall disappeared without a trace in 1996 from a Bath nightclub, 14 miles from Miss Yeates’s home in Bristol.

    Both women were 25 when they vanished after apparently returning home following a social engagement with friends.

    They had short blonde hair, and their graduation pictures show two women of similar appearance.
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    ‘They are both pretty girls who look very similar and who vanished without a trace. The geographic link is there and the fact that they have both been placed by the side of roads is also very disturbing.’
    more at
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz19KS5yAWY

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    I would also be checking cameras at the pub to see who she made contact with there. Maybe she met someone there, told them where she lived and said she would pick up a pizza on the way for them to share and things went bad from there. Maybe the perp got rid of the pizza as evidence but didn't think of the receipt. Just shooting in the dark here.

    May justice be swift for Joanna.

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    Seems a long time between Miss Hall's murder and Jo's to be connected, but we also don't know if there aren't others that have just never been solved. Hmmm...

    The two women really do look alike, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krista View Post
    Seems a long time between Miss Hall's murder and Jo's to be connected, but we also don't know if there aren't others that have just never been solved. Hmmm...

    The two women really do look alike, though.
    Yes, I doubt that they are connected. It seems more of a tabloid paper reaching for a sensational storyline than it does a logical avenue of investigation.

    Still, one never knows.

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