MN wsn't afraid at all of being seen or caught with Jonathan at his home or hers.
She had a plan.
IMO MN has escalated through the years and had this crime down pat.
1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range.
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories.
7. They hate their fathers and mothers.
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member.
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12.
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures.
Jordan Johnson was found.
I also found this about Cynthia Tucker fwiw.
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If there's hink....there must be stink.
This was before surveillance cameras at every corner and DNA forensics and cell phone technology that we have today.
The only reason I mentioned it so, we won't dismiss anyone as a potential serial killer just because they appear slow or posses a low IQ.
I don't think the Grim Sleeper possessed a very high or average IQ either.
I wonder if she did attend college?
Wanting to be a pediatrician an having the ability to do so are a big difference.
I've known students with low IQ's that thought they were going to study and become a doctor or attorney, but did not have the ability to do so.
I can only guess since, I haven't heard her speak.
My guess she possesses an average IQ.
Smart and violent enough to be dangerous.
I brought it up because some serial killers have low IQ not all are Ted Bundy archetypes and it doesn't take a genius to kill others.
There's many more examples than Gary Ridgeway and The Grim Sleeper killer.
Mona isn't a serial killer, imo.
Most serial killers kill either for personal gain (revenge, money etc...) or pleasure (usually sexual). Many serial killers have above average intelligence, and are well employed in high wage jobs (engineers, doctors, lawyers etc...). The majority came from middle to high-income families. They are usually handsome/ beautiful, very articulate, and sexually promiscuous. (1) As killers they have a specific trait that they look for in the victims that they ritually kill.
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just a thought but when i look at this
St. Charles Parish, La..........2006 criminal battery & boxing (11/18/2006 @ Cut Off Youth Center, Cut Off, La.)
Mount Pleasant..................2008 assault daughter
Mount Pleasant ................ Christmas 2009
it seems the NOV DEC and will stretch it to the JAN FEB months moreso the NOV DEC ones might be the first months to look
This is kind of off topic, but have you guys seen the sneak peek for Beyond Scared Straight on A&E? It shows the kids going into a room with an inmate who kind of looks like Mona (but she has tattoos all over her face). She tells them that everyone calls her Diabla (little devil). She then goes on to say how she didn't like drive-by shootings, she liked to watch her victims die. It's creepy as all get-out. Anyway, it's kind of an insight into the prison world for women and perhaps might give some insight into Mona's mind and/or experiences too.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
some tattoos can look real and be fake..........henna based..........cheaper
Interesting, a lot of serial killers and sadistic criminals do tend to follow a pattern of behavior. There could very well be something about the holidays that is a trigger for her.
I not sure if she a serial killer.... but she killer of a young child. I don't know if she killed other children but pretty sure she killed others. there a lot to be learn from this monster.
I still waiting for motive....
I still concern about Jevon Tyrell Jones missing from Hoston in June
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Have created a Google spreadsheet which lists all known MN crimes, dates and places thus far.
It is setup so anybody can edit the spreadsheet to add/modify or to expand the information. When the google screen comes up click "open" and it will open the spreadsheet for you.
This way we can easily collaborate on collecting and keeping the information up to date regardless of where we are (the world is getting smaller isn't it?).
Here is the link:
ETA: Have a little bit of work to do to open this up to everyone to update - bear with me.
I'm not sure MN is a serial killer but if she's guilty of this crime, as I believe she is, then I do think she's capable of anything. I've read all the threads on Jonathan, but I have not completely caught up on this one so apologies if I repeat something already posted.
LE found "a wealth of evidence" implicating MN in Jonathan's murder. I also interpreted what they said about MN possibly committing other such crimes to mean they may have found something else.
I've read some serial killers will keep something belonging to their victims. It was noted Jonathan had a stuffed cat which was missing. Possibly this is something MN intended to keep. The other thought I had involves MN's personality. She does seem to like attention with an intense, possibly impulsive, maybe even over the top personality. I wonder if she may have kept news clippings of other crimes. Perhaps that would cause LE to question if she could have been involved in those. But we don't know what LE found in her apartment.
FWIW, I do see a real similarity between MN & the Lane Bryant killer's sketch.
Sorry for my rambling. Just having a hard time getting my head around this. If there's a possibility MN can be identified as the perp in some cold cases, I think it's worth a look.
I don't know what to think but thank you to everyone who is sharing info on this thread I'm not talented enough to find info. like this!