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    Just putting it out there ...

    Thinking of cemeteries, satanic activities, "homeless man" David L. S, and the rented barn ... then revisiting some Brantford weirdness from a couple of years ago re the David Lee Roth (Van Halen) imposter, David K of Kitchener/Cambridge area, also known as David P. Angel:

    http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...true&e=1115734

    FWIW, Blinkhorn was found not guilty be reason of insanity.

    One comment stated recently was a person who claimed they used to go to "that barn" until they were chased with an axe. So, who goes to a purportedly abandoned barn and why?

    David K's father (David Sr) and uncle Paul were owners/executives of an established company. Before David Sr died, he said he heard his son was in Chilliwack, BC. Subsequent info was that David Jr was trying to get back to Ontario. Don't know if he made it back, but his uncle Paul suffered a lengthy illness and died Dec 29 2010.

    Might be a long shot, but better than no shot at all. There is still lots of sleuthing going on behind the curtain, but there sure are some interesting dots to follow.


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    Sillybilly--FWIW, that comment about "going to the barn until a guy chased them with an axe" (paraphrased) was posted following two articles concerning the search of the barn. It makes no sense to me as to why someone would go to a barn, which was abandoned (thus no animals), unless it was for some sort of illegal activity. Was it a place where kids hung out and drank or smoked pot? Was it a place where occult activity took place? A place to store stolen goods? Was it a place for midnight trysts? Why go there if an unstable man with an axe was known to be in residence?

    And I have to wonder why someone would even implicate themselves and say that they used to go there.

    Hmmm. I just checked and I don't see the comment now. This is snipped from my Post #69 on January 5th. I believe I posted it as soon as I saw it. This was from an article on thespec.com:


    Posted by jessie2327:

    "...this barn is a place i used to go until this man chased me with an axe...."

    FWIW, looks like a number of comments (many quite rude) have been removed.



    It's still here, though, posted on the 5th:

    http://brantfordexpositor.ca/Article...aspx?e=2913418

    by the same person. This is where the comment about the basement is.


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    Keep up the great work you guys and gals, you're doing a great job of thinking outside the box and being creative, that's all we have at the moment. I hope forensics will provide results ASAP. I'm still working up a theory trying to prove/disprove that AG, Sonia, Shelley, Brenda's crimes are or are not related, regardless of distance. Which is all of about an hour driving distance. So far I've come up with maybe a commonality of McMaster alumni. Along with some other incidental stuff.

    God bless all the victims and their families.
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    Tragic proof that this crime can be relatively random but check out the similarities with Ms. Gleave's death. I don't think we're supposed to "double post", so go to the thread here:

    WI~"Satanic Thrill Killer", Austin Davis Sentenced for murder of 93 yr. old - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    and read Posts #2 and 4. Quite eery, if you ask me.
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    I note on Audrey's condolences page that a well-known photographer named JH seemed to know Audrey quite well. He was the one that informed her that her nickname "baryon" was a subatomic particle. I believe AG prolly already knew what it meant, but was far too polite to let on.

    http://beckettglaves.frontrunnerpro....&ItemId=619536

    I remember lots of big names in Kitchener-Waterloo from back in the day (don't ask what day ). Seems a JH went to St. Jeromes in Kitchener where at least one member of the well-known Kuntz family attended. A lot of JH's pics of St. Jeromes are on the internet:

    http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&biw=801&...f1fb23c985c996

    According to his obituary, David K's uncle Paul that died on Dec 29 attended St. Jeromes as well:

    http://www.therecord.com/news/busine...conomic-storms

    Don't know how Audrey knew JH, but it does seem to have the potential for a connection between Audrey and the bizarre imposter DK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    I was thinking of Audrey's new Camaro, and that it is a vehicle that a young person might be pretty intrigued with. However, I would think if Audrey heard someone in her garage messing with that new car, she wouldn't have opened the garage door without her dogs beside her.

    Thinking of Audrey's personal property, her real estate alone had to be worth quite a bit of money. Do we know who the beneficiaries of her Will are?
    I am also wondering who AG's beneficiaries would be considering she didn't have any family members. Perhaps she did leave her property to the OSPCA or other animal welfare agencies given that AG was such an animal lover. She likely provided for the continuing care of her dogs.
    I wonder if the police found any valuable clues in items found inside her home. Perhaps these items could be diaries, address books, appointment records, home repair receipts or any other form of correspondence. We know that AG had a number of computers so I'm sure these are being examined by forensic experts. AG may also have a safety deposit box in some bank; this could be helpful as well.
    I'm sure that AG's property is quite valuable. In Ontario realtors must disclose if anything untoward took place in or on a property and this would include murder, suicide or any other serious crime. It would be mentioned in some form on the listing. It would likely say something like 'please call listing agent' prior to writing up an Agreement of Purchase and Sale. Sadly there are many folks who wouldn't want to touch the property because of the gruesome crime but some may not be bothered by it. It's possible that one would tear it down and build new. It's difficult to say.
    I hope that forensic results are providing useful information to help in identifying this monster.
    Just My Opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    I note on Audrey's condolences page that a well-known photographer named JH seemed to know Audrey quite well. He was the one that informed her that her nickname "baryon" was a subatomic particle. I believe AG prolly already knew what it meant, but was far too polite to let on.

    http://beckettglaves.frontrunnerpro....&ItemId=619536

    I remember lots of big names in Kitchener-Waterloo from back in the day (don't ask what day ). Seems a JH went to St. Jeromes in Kitchener where at least one member of the well-known Kuntz family attended. A lot of JH's pics of St. Jeromes are on the internet:

    http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&biw=801&...f1fb23c985c996

    According to his obituary, David K's uncle Paul that died on Dec 29 attended St. Jeromes as well:

    http://www.therecord.com/news/busine...conomic-storms

    Don't know how Audrey knew JH, but it does seem to have the potential for a connection between Audrey and the bizarre imposter DK.
    Now old friends have identified the Roth impostor as David Kuntz of Cambridge. Later in life, he also went by the name David P. Angel.
    http://www.simcoereformer.ca/Article...true&e=1116345
    (Could this be considered in certain other cases?!)
    Kuntz could not be found yesterday. The only David Kuntz in Cambridge is located on Rosewood Court but has a phone number that's no longer in service.

    "I went to high school with the guy," said one man who asked that his name not be used.

    "We were sort of close friends and I know he gets people into trouble. He's a manipulator."

    That seems borne out in coverage of the trial of Kim Blinkhorn, a partner of Kuntz's in 1988.

    When Kuntz announced he was going to marry another woman, Blinkhorn purchased an eight-inch carving knife and attacked Rowena Parsons, stabbing her 70 times. The attack took place right in front of Parsons' and Kuntz's three-year-old daughter


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    I wonder if there is a connection here. At first I thought not because it seems the victim who wasn't home was kidnapped in Hamilton and taken to an address not in Ancaster, so maybe coincidental that the victim was from Ancaster. Then I read that Detectives don't think this is a random attack so maybe the two knew each other and the perp would know he lived in Ancaster.


    http://www.thespec.com/news/crime/ar...ngerous-police
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    Quote Originally Posted by dairydog View Post
    We know that AG had a number of computers so I'm sure these are being examined by forensic experts.
    <snip>

    Although Audrey was retired, given her intellect, her love of teaching, I wonder if she did any tutoring. Could explain why she had different computers in her home.

    Pondering Audrey's friendship with the well-known wedding photographer JH. Could just be old money, old connections, but i'm wondering if he was the photographer at the handyman's wedding last year and that's where they met. Or, maybe Audrey had professional photos taken of her beloved dogs, but i would think she could have found a photographer closer to home and less expensive.

    Or, maybe Audrey just happened to know a photographer. That's a novel concept sillybilly.


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    Any chance the sexual assault could have been 'staged', or completed after the fact on purpose to make it look like a crazed, sexually-motivated psycho killed her? (In this theory it would actually be a friend or acquaintance trying to draw attention away from themselves.)

    You're all doing a magnificent job with this case, by the way. We've got an amazing amount of brain power here at WS!


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    I happened across some wedding photos of the handyman and they surely weren't professional. I would think that if Ms. Gleave was friends with a well known photographer, that would have been a fitting gift for her friend and employee.

    I imagine the fact that the dogs were taken in by the vet's son, a shepherd breeder, after initially being taken to the shelter, must have been due to finding a will--probably the same document which named LV as the executor. The vet has stated that they will be evaluated and placed for adoption. That's a bit different than setting up some sort of care plan for them. This is an excellent time to point out how important that is. I cannot tell you how many dogs we've adopted who were left homeless when their owner passed and the children didn't want the dog. It's best to spell out your wishes.

    Possibly adoption with a new family was Ms. Gleave's choice as none of her friends seemed to get on with the dogs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    <snip>

    Although Audrey was retired, given her intellect, her love of teaching, I wonder if she did any tutoring. Could explain why she had different computers in her home.

    Pondering Audrey's friendship with the well-known wedding photographer JH. Could just be old money, old connections, but i'm wondering if he was the photographer at the handyman's wedding last year and that's where they met. Or, maybe Audrey had professional photos taken of her beloved dogs, but i would think she could have found a photographer closer to home and less expensive.

    Or, maybe Audrey just happened to know a photographer. That's a novel concept sillybilly.
    According to the condolence message he met her at a web design course at Mohawk College.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopster View Post
    According to the condolence message he met her at a web design course at Mohawk College.
    Thanks Snoopster ... Brain drain here .. i knew that at one time and had forgotten.

    Doesn't negate the potential connection to DK that i'm interested in. Will keep plodding.


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    I checked and this statement has only been highlighted on our thread one time. I think it's an important one to revisit:

    http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...at-s-so-audrey

    Jan. 6, 2011

    "....Gleave's beaten, stabbed and sexually assaulted body was found in her Indian Trail home last Thursday morning. Staff Sergeant Steve Hrab who was one of a few Hamilton police homicide detectives at the memorial – has called the murder the most vicious he's seen in 10 years...."

    and

    ".....While private was the word many people used to describe Gleave, LV said she was many things: animal lover, someone who loved her smokes and candies, coffee groupie, bargain shopper, car-buff, funny and stubborn...."

    more at link


    So, she was beaten--not just stabbed and sexually violated in some way. I wouldn't think that a killer would beat a person once they were dead. Given the fact that her closest friend describes her as "stubborn", I have a feeling that Ms. Gleave put up quite a fight. It leaves me wondering if her assailant has some injuries from the attack. I know the woman was 73 but she'd been a golfer, tennis player and a coach (years ago). I don't think of her as frail.

    This article also makes clear that "the abandoned barn [was] about a five-minute drive down the road, across the border to Brant County".


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    Ditto for this article.
    http://www.simcoereformer.ca/Article...aspx?e=2912906
    Hrab said Friday the victim was likely attacked by a stranger.

    Neighbours suspect it could be a young man who often helped Gleave with odd jobs around her house.

    "The friend found Audrey in the house, obviously dead, obviously the victim of a very horrific, vicious assault," Hrab said.

    She had been sexually assaulted, stabbed several times and suffered other injuries that were examined during an autopsy Friday.

    "Stranger, sexual component , vicious, vicious assault. It was something very bad," a tired and disturbed Hrab said. "The crime is horrendous."


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