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    Quote Originally Posted by yosande View Post
    Honestly, what bothered me was the smile on his face during the interview at the exact time that Billie was saying they were all distraught.
    Add to that a change in his daily routine on the very day she goes missing, and he is the last one to see her, and whalla, suspect. He needs to take a poly, and pass it, asap, or the thoughts about him being involved will only increase.

    She also has a couple kids that dislike her, and I hope they have been interviewed only because anything is possible.

    I don't suspect the mom, dad, or sm at all right now.

    A whole lot of LE on this case. I'm sure they will find out who. I hope to hear that they luminated her house, do a search, and all that, as well as her dad's house, and the bf's if he has a residence other than the mom's house.

    moo
    ~BBM~ It has been said bf has his own place and does not live with Billie.
    16yo brother supposedly has an alibi~IBM~ I am sure older brothers have friends, have they been questioned?
    I wish school was back in, I am sure there will be chatter there! Might even find some to question imo.
    Praying for Hailey and her family!
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    What time did Hailey's brother get home that night?

    How long was Hailey alone with SA if he legitimately arrived at the house at 3pm??

    Hailey likely FREQUENTLY walked to school, walked to her friend's house, walked to her dad's. I don't discount the bloodhounds, but I just think it is not related.

    If we take the boyfriend's words, Hailey left her home to visit her dad a few houses down, and then went to spend the night with a friend---yet SA let her leave without anything she would need to spend the night away (toothbrush, hairbrush, etc). I know 13 year old girls can pack their own bags, but it would seem odd to me that a 13 year old wouldn't be asked questions: "Did you get your toothbrush? Do you need spending money? What time are you going to be home? etc". Surely one would SEE that she was leaving without any bags.
    Further, we are told that Hailey said nothing to her friend about spending the night.
    So, there was a suggestion that Hailey must be 'meeting someone' at the hotel.
    But, again, the boyfriend tells us that Hailey was last seen wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt. So, we are led to believe that Hailey, a beautiful, intelligent 13 year old girl, who has shown absolutely NO signs of being promiscuous or risky, not only met a stranger at a hotel....she also told none of her friends, took absolutely nothing with her, and wore sweats for her very first visit with her 'online boyfriend'.

    I just don't buy this story.
    I really wish we knew more about SA, about his schedule that day and why it coincidentally changed the one day Hailey went missing. all moo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krista View Post
    What time did Hailey's brother get home that night?

    How long was Hailey alone with SA if he legitimately arrived at the house at 3pm??
    ~snipped by me for space~
    Not sure what time brother arrived, but was not there when Hailey left.
    It has been reported SA arrived at 3pm and Hailey left at 3:15
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    I don't think the boyfriend would have been expected to question Hailey about why she wasn't bringing anything with her, or when she would be home. We've been told he doesn't live there. Most likely, if Hailey told him what he said, she just asked him to pass the message onto her mom and he said OK.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Good Morning Everyone!
    I feel energized today! We finally appear to have the help we need to sort out this mess!

    With all due respect to those who began this investigation in C-City, the fact that they have stated that they are going back to the beginning is the best thing I could hear, next to hearing of Hailey's safe return.

    The last page or two of posts seem to be getting to the core of the situation. I am sure that there are bits and peices of info gleaned in the first few days of the investigation which could have been more thoroughly pursued, such as the phone call records. I hope that CCPD has requested ping info on SA's (the BF) cell.

    There are problems with SA's timeline and story of what happened Monday, Dec. 27th. If we find out today that the reported backyard call by Hailey did not happen, we need to include the night of the 26th and early morning of the 27th, I say this because, in my experience with 13yr old girls on Christmas break, a girl Hailey's age probably would have been sleeping in her bedroom when Mom left for work. I don't always look in on my teen if I have to leave in the morning when they are sleeping in, especially if I am leaving for something expected, like work. Unless Billie saw and spoke with a walking, talking Hailey before work, we can't be sure that she was okay. ( Unless of course, there is proof she was talking on the phone that day)

    Please, if anyone reading here can find out about SA's, ( Mom's BF), work...what type of work he does, where he works, and most importantly, what hours did he work that day? Was he fidgety or did he seeem upset? Did he leave in a hurry? Was it ood for him to leave when he did?

    If you are a guest reading here, please sign up and let us know if you have any info, even a tiny bit can lead us to more answers! If you have a tip for police, call CCPD! (All calls to CCPD that I know have been made in the last week have gotten only an answering machine, so if that's all you get, leave your message.) I can get a mesage to the family if you feel your important tip is lost in the shuffle. (hope that's okay with Tricia!)

    Let's find Hailey TODAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I don't think the boyfriend would have been expected to question Hailey about why she wasn't bringing anything with her, or when she would be home. We've been told he doesn't live there. Most likely, if Hailey told him what he said, she just asked him to pass the message onto her mom and he said OK.
    I agree he wouldn't be "expected' to do so, but he's been with Hailey's mother long enough that she would be frustrated with him for not being home with her children when he was supposed to be (when he didn't come home for lunch that day), so I think the person who knows him best, Billie, is who can answer this question best. Does he NORMALLY just let Hailey do whatever she wants whenever she wants, without any supervision or does he normally follow mom's rules or get verification that mom is ok with it??
    I'm looking for variations from the norm. He had a couple of significant variations that day.

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    They need to check the boarded up house next door and one across the street! Especially with known RSO (s) on that street that probably are aware of these abandoned homes.
    Let's bring Hailey home today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    Polygraphs need to be done immediately. I have raised two girls one at a time and they both had stepfathers, never, if they left for the skating rink or any where else did the dad's know what they had on. Who gave the clothing description?
    KWYM. My DH is right across the room from me and he would be hardpressed to recall what I have on Now!
    I read last night Hailey was wearing pink and white shoes, which I guess I assumed tennis shoes but then it was posted how upset her Mother was because she left in Flip Flops and didn't take her hoodie and might be cold.
    Burn the candles, use the nice sheets, wear the fancy jewelry and lingerie. Don't save it for a special occasion, Every Day Is Special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impatientredhead View Post
    The boyfriends myspace page he was using in 2007 has a lovely blog entry.

    snipped and paraphrased:

    GET A F@CKING LIFE, A REAL JOB, REAL T*TS AND SEW YOUR C*NT UP!
    I just though I'd re-post this little gem of a quote for those who missed last night's posts. I am sure that a profiler would have a field day with this one! SA seems to have quite an interesting attitude in regard to women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    I just though I'd re-post this little gem of a quote for those who missed last night's posts. I am sure that a profiler would have a field day with this one! SA seems to have quite an interesting attitude in regard to women.

    True, but I remain hopeful that this is the worst of his background. Being a jerk online isn't illegal. So far no one's uncovered anything worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    True, but I remain hopeful that this is the worst of his background. Being a jerk online isn't illegal. So far no one's uncovered anything worse.
    I agree! however, there was a local on last night that said his name is well known around town but she/he didn't elaborate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamaicanMeFrooti View Post
    They need to check the boarded up house next door and one across the street! Especially with known RSO (s) on that street that probably are aware of these abandoned homes.
    Let's bring Hailey home today!
    Yes, I did notice the boarded up house across the street, via Google Eye in the Sky and it gave me the creeps...not very scientific but when I ran into that....shivers!
    Burn the candles, use the nice sheets, wear the fancy jewelry and lingerie. Don't save it for a special occasion, Every Day Is Special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    I just though I'd re-post this little gem of a quote for those who missed last night's posts. I am sure that a profiler would have a field day with this one! SA seems to have quite an interesting attitude in regard to women.
    To give him the benefit of doubt at this moment in time, it was from 2007, 3-4 years ago, he was a lot younger, probably trying to "be a man" and full of testosterone and albeit very tasteless and vulgar he may have been just trying to show off. If he had said this a week ago, different ballgame all together.JMOO
    Burn the candles, use the nice sheets, wear the fancy jewelry and lingerie. Don't save it for a special occasion, Every Day Is Special.

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    Website for Hailey

    I don't know if this has already been posted on here, but someone has setup a website to help the word out about Hailey. It's www.findhaileydunn.com. I ran across it on the Find Hailey Dunn facebook page. Scroll down to the post by Scott Schlee for more info about the new website.

    Link to new website

    Link to facebook page

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    Quote Originally Posted by majieof3 View Post
    The BF as everyone is calling him, is a former student of Snyder High School. He attended with my daughters. If he graduated from Snyder, on time. He would have been in the class of 2003. I knew him years ago, and he was quiet. So with that being said, the fact that he did not speak while Billie was being interviewed is not surprising.

    What do you know, or what can you find out about his family dynamics and history with girlfriends? Since your daughter is an adult by now, would she be willing to check with High School acquaintences to see what the buzz is? When those formwer classmates realize that SA was the last to see this missing girl, I'm sure there will be talk.

    This also explains in what capacity the Snyder PD might have been assisting CCPD. Sometimes acquaintences are more willing to open up when a case has gone national or when speaking with a former classmate than they are with police. Besides, sometimes people only recall things after having a few days to contemplate!

    I come from a family of teachers. I have classroom experience with younger teens , both in the classrom and when they are in on-campus suspension. Teachers can't help but notice the ones who just don't respond normally to situations and/ or consequences. We've sometimes found ourselves bemoaning the fact that no matter how hard we try to reach out to a kid and offer opportunities to change their behavior, there are a few who will inevitably end up in the criminal justice system. They are the ones who the teacher remembers even years later, along with the ones who excell. I wonder who remembers SA, and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamaicanMeFrooti View Post
    I agree! however, there was a local on last night that said his name is well known around town but she/he didn't elaborate.

    It's a small town, no surprise there. Was in meant in a positive or negative way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    Folks usually volunteer to take the poly, whats going on here?
    Maybe he already did. If he took one and passed it, I am sure that the family would be overjoyed and Billie would mention it when talking about the case. A passed test would be good news that she would want to share so that the investigation could move on th the next step!

    We've seen several cases in which the girlfriend, wife or mother will actually lie to media about test results. I don't think Billie would do that... she wants to find Hailey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    Maybe he already did. If he took one and passed it, I am sure that the family would be overjoyed and Billie would mention it when talking about the case. A passed test would be good news that she would want to share so that the investigation could move on th the next step!

    We've seen several cases in which the girlfriend, wife or mother will actually lie to media about test results. I don't think Billie would do that... she wants to find Hailey!

    MOO

    denial and love are strong emotions.

    I'm at a place where I am having confidence in the investigation and have to believe he's been looked at, HARD.

    LE is playing this SUPER close to the vest. Giving them the benefit of the doubt along with her family members and even the BF right now.


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    I can't wait for Nancy Grace tonight!! And I agree with everyone. I think they need to look at the boyfriend simply because he was the last one to see her. If she took nothing when she left then either he is lying or the little girl did. IDK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    True, but I remain hopeful that this is the worst of his background. Being a jerk online isn't illegal. So far no one's uncovered anything worse.
    It's not only illegal behavior that could be very useful in considering if a man has a healthy and non-violent attitude toward women. Any violent behavior, from violent words or entertainment to physically violent behavior is a known indicator of the probability of future violent acts. There are many habits or attitudes which are harmful or wrong, but are not illegal.

    The boyfriends myspace page he was using in 2007 has a lovely blog entry.

    snipped and paraphrased:

    GET A F@CKING LIFE, A REAL JOB, REAL T*TS AND SEW YOUR C*NT UP!



    IMO, a person who posts the type of statement he did and choses to leave it on his profile long after the initial anger should have passed is dangerous and cruel. That's just how I see it.

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    Need to get ready for a meeting, but finally caught up here.

    Here is my map again...
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...478db&t=h&z=13

    It currently has on it
    * Hailey/Billie's House
    * Hotel where Hailey was possibly at
    * Hailey's School & Vigil Location
    * RSOs in close proximity
    * Bodies of Water & Parks

    I would like to add
    * Father's House
    * SA's House
    * Friend's House that Hailey was to be spending the night
    * Any other pertinent info

    Reasoning for wanting the father's house and the friend's house is to see which direction Hailey may have been heading when she left and which direction she may have changed course.

    With regard to the boarded up/abandoned houses, are we certain that these are stilll the case, as in eyewitness knowledge of there current state? Just asking because the street view for the hotel, does not even show the hotel, as it is too new for the mapping. However, if I understand correctly, it has been there for about a year.

    So my thinking is the streetview and maps are not necessarily that current and the state of these houses may have changed. Anyone have 1st hand knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    It's a small town, no surprise there. Was in meant in a positive or negative way?
    Not sure. This is from two seperate posts and posters:

    The BF (SA) sure does have a lot of bad people with the same name. Not him in any of the pics or records I've found, though...


    That name is known in that area.

    So FWIW
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayKat View Post
    What do we know about the postings earlier on in this thread that stated he was a public figure?

    It was a mistake. They were talking about the LE officer who was mentioned in a comment on a newspaper article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthwillsetufree View Post
    KWYM. My DH is right across the room from me and he would be hardpressed to recall what I have on Now!
    I read last night Hailey was wearing pink and white shoes, which I guess I assumed tennis shoes but then it was posted how upset her Mother was because she left in Flip Flops and didn't take her hoodie and might be cold.
    I wonder if the description is accurate.

    I guess it would be easier to remember the clothes if it was what she wore often when just hanging out at the house, but it would be even easier for a man to remember if he was involved in an extended struggle or interaction with someone who was wearing those clothes. JMO

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