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    Ramsey Documented Lies!

    I am not sure if there is a thread like this. II didn't see one while searching. I have been struck lately by how many lies, some insignificant, some important that the Ramseys and their spin team have tried to get us all to believe and color our opinion of the case and who the murderer of JonBenet may be.

    I'll start, as this one has been a hot topic of late.

    The size 12 undies.

    A) Patsy stated she gave them to JonBenet, putting them in with her panties so she could wear them when/if she wanted.

    B) She tried to make it sound as if they were not that big for JB, despite the fact that they were made for a child twice her age and twice her size.

    C) BPD confiscated all of the undies in JB's room. The larger undies were not in her drawer, as Patsy previously stated.

    D) Several years later, the R's turned in the remaining pairs of underwear, still in the original packaging.

    The oversized undies are well documented including in the arrest warrant for JMK. This is a document from the DA office, not the police department.
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    John's conflicting accounts of what happened when they arrived home Christmas night. Did he carry a sleeping JBR up to bed, or did he read her a bedtime story? One has to be a lie.

    Patsy's conflicting accounts- to cite just one example, did she check in JBR's room first and find her gone, or did she do so after skimming over the ransom note? Again, both cannot be true.

    I'm sure this thread will have lots of posts.

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    The pineapple, bowl, glass and tea bag..

    During the Crime photo interview, the Kidnapping phase....

    Patsy is shown photo's of the dinning table with the bowl and glass. Pr comments on seeing the cereal bowl and glass.When asked if everything seemed normal? PR said yeah, uh huh.

    Crime photo interview after the search warrant was issued.....

    PR was shown a photo from search warrant photos and suddenly, the bowl and glass were odd. Somehow not right... When asked, does this look right? PR said, no this doesnt look right. Thats not my set up.

    And the list goes on.........
    There are things that we don't want to happen but have to accept, things we don't want to know but have to learn, and people we can't live without but have to let go.

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    Burke being asleep was a definite lie because they later admitted he was awake.

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    The fact that Burke stated JonBenet walked into the house, carrying presents when they got home, whereas John and Patsy said she was asleep and carried upstairs.

    This also brings up the point of the pineapple in her stomach. It wasn't served at the party. If she was asleep, when did she eat it?
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    John Ramsey waited 7 hours to tell police about the open basement window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudicici View Post
    John Ramsey waited 7 hours to tell police about the open basement window.
    Whats your basic theory claudi on whodunnit?

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    PAX !!!!!!so good to see ya here ! This is my current theory ,it changes from time to time:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=20426&page=31

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    Here's one: claiming that their investigative team was set-up to follow leads the police weren't interested in, when they were only there to build a defense to keep the Rs out of prison--apparently by any means necessary.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.


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    Quote Originally Posted by claudicici View Post
    PAX !!!!!!so good to see ya here ! This is my current theory ,it changes from time to time:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=20426&page=31
    Love it! Well thought out and expressed, will comment over there.

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    Red Turtleneck...

    Patsy at first says that she put JB to bed wearing the red turtleneck (found balled up in the bathroom)...but, then changed her story to the White Gap Shirt..

    John saying that he removed JB's coat, after carrying her upstairs and placing her on the bed....and the coat that she wore to the White's, was found in the car.
    "This time we get it right."

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    ST: There is now ay then, I’m assuming John, and I’m not making this adversarial because I have a great deal of affinity for you personally. Whether you hate me or like me or indifferent to me, I will make the commitment to you as I have from the start, that I will go to the ends of the earth to find the truth about your daughter. And I don’t care if it was you or whoever it was, that is what I’m committed to do.
    JR: And I’m delighted to hear that. I mean, want the killer of my daughter found. And I will do the same thing. I will spend every dime I have, I will spend every minute of time I have if that’s what it takes, to find who killed her.

    Interviewee: John Ramsey
    Date of Interview: April 30, 1997
    Interviewed At: Boulder District Attorney’s Office

    I am not sure about this being a lie, but I am fairly certain John does have more than a dime to his name and spends a lot of minutes not finding who killed her.
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    Burke's hi-tech boots. First he doesn't own them, then all of a sudden, after he says he owns them, the ramnesia disappears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
    Here's one: claiming that their investigative team was set-up to follow leads the police weren't interested in, when they were only there to build a defense to keep the Rs out of prison--apparently by any means necessary.
    This is not only false but impossible to prove.

    The R's published a profile on flyers and in the newspaper. They used this team to help develop the profile that was later published. There's no way to know that the intention was never to follow leads, cause someone to recognize the profile, or catch the intruder. They set up a website which provided a phone number for people to call, and an e-mail also. Its not even known if that was without result.



    Why make baseless unsupported claims when according to you that shouldn't be necessary? How can you prove there was never an intention to solicit help from the public?
    Last edited by Holdontoyourhat; 01-09-2011 at 12:22 PM.

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