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    Richard - Amazing observation! I don't know how I missed it. Keep in mind when you are trying to decipher the Zodiac codes you are most likely dealing with someone who was both mad and a genius. If I am right, and Kaczynski was the Zodiac, you are dealing with someone who had a 165 IQ - about the same as Einstein! Regular "genius" level is 140. So there are often codes within codes, hidden meanings, levels of encryption and peristent mathematical patterns, though often hard to detect.

    You seem to have correctly identified a pattern in the use of positive and negative shift values. I will take the Caesar Code Shift Chart for the name Theodore J Kaczynski with 0-3-6-9 values and add your observation about positive shifts (going forward from the letter) and negative shifts (going backwards from the letter).




    -...-...N...-...M...-...-...N...S...-...-...-...-....H...-...B...-...-
    -...-...K...-...J....-...-...K...P...-...-...-...-.....E...-...Y...-...-
    -...-...H...-..G....-...-...H..M...-...-...-...-.....B...-...V...-...-

    T..H...E..O..D...O...R...E..J....K..A...C..Z...Y... N..S...K...I
    -...E...-...L...-...L...O...-...-....H..X...Z..W..-....K...-...H...-
    -...B...-...I...-...I....L...-...-....E...U..W..T...-...H...-...E....-
    -...Y...-...F..-...F....I...-...-....B...R...T..Q...-...E...-...B...-


    0..3...3...6..9...6...3...3...6..6...9....9..6...6 ..9...9..6...0
    0..-...+...-..+...-...-....+...+..-...-....-...-....+..-...+...-...0




    There does indeed appear to be a pattern - both the left and right start off going inward as 0-+-+--, with a ++-- in the middle.

    I suspect you may also be a right about a pattern in the final shuffle of the 18 letter string, but beyond a reversal and certain shifts, I have yet to detect an overall pattern. He may have added some randomness to increase difficulty of solution.
    Last edited by AKWILKS; 01-19-2011 at 04:42 PM.

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    By the way, "absolute value" is a math term, it means distance from zero, so that for example both +6 and -6 have the same absolute value, i.e., distance from zero. So I did do two charts showing shift value numbers for their absolute value, so that positive and negative shifts were represented on the same axis.

    But there is no doubt both - and + shift values are used in the code, and some had criticized the work of Kite and myself for just that reason - in other words, yes we had a very remarkable and interesting solution, but if - and + shift numbers are used interchangeably in a random fashion, no pattern, then that weakens our claim to a true definitive solution.

    But I think you have correctly discovered the true pattern.

    There does indeed appear to be a pattern -

    both the left and right start off going inward as 0 - + - + --, with a ++ -- in the middle.



    Let me try to illustrate it better:


    0..-...+...-..+...-...-....[+...+..-...-]....-...-....+...-...+...-....0




    To put it into pure math-algebra terms, with 0="A", X= "-", Y= "+"this is the pattern:

    A..X..Y..X..Y..XX [YYXX] XX..Y..X..Y..X..A

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    Does Zodiac depict this pattern somewhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by AKWILKS View Post
    ...

    Let me try to illustrate it better:


    0..-...+...-..+...-...-....[+...+..-...-]....-...-....+...-...+...-....0



    To put it into pure math-algebra terms, with 0="A", X= "-", Y= "+"this is the pattern:

    A..X..Y..X..Y..XX [YYXX] XX..Y..X..Y..X..A
    I wonder if Zodiac indicated this pattern in any of his "clews" or writings. Perhaps in the way he put stamps on envelopes, or in some sort of drawing on a card or map or something.

    If this pattern could be found - like the way you have pointed out the car door scratching - then it might be a way of authenticating the encryption of the name.

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    What was Kaczinski's weight? If memory serves me correctly, Zodiac was determined to have weighed about 230 pounds at the Lake killing. That would seem to rule him out.
    “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”

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    Kaczynski matches the height descriptions of Zodiac, also hair cut and color. Like Zodiac he wore military shoes and a navy blue jacket. Ted weighed between 150 and 170 pounds. Weight descriptions on Zodiac are varied. As the Unabomber, Ted would wear multiple shirts and stuff a towel under them, put wax in his nostrils and cotton balls in his cheeks, all to make himself look heavier than he was.

    Later Lake Berryessa victim Hartnell said he overstated the weight of the attacker, who he said was wearing a "puffed up" jacket. Mike Mageau said Zodiac was 160 pounds, Kathleen Johns said 160 pounds, the Hakari and Bennallack suspect descriptions were 160 pounds.

    Zodiac suspect Arthur Leigh Allen was ruled out on the basis of DNA, fingerprints, handwriting and Officer Fouke said the 250 pound Allen was "100 pounds" more than the man he saw that night in San Francisco.

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    THE BIRTH OF THE ZODIAC?


    In the summer of 1966, most likely late August/early September 1966, Ted Kaczynski records a break through moment in his life. He is a genius, yet socially alienated and isolated as a math graduate student at the University of Michigan. He decribes hearing the sound of couples having sex in the apartment next door to his, and he says it fills him with frustration and anger. Out of despair and self described "acute sexual starvation", he records in his journal that instead of killing himself he will "really kill everyone I hate."

    The people he says he hates and wants to kill are many, but they include two distinct groups. One group is what he calls "bigshots" or "government officials", and these include "scientists", "big businessmen", "politicians" and "police".

    The other group of people he hated and wanted to kill included love making "couples", "rowdy college students" and those college men and women he deems "promiscuous". Look at the government psychiatric report on Kaczynski done after he was arrested for the Unabomber crimes:


    In the summer after his fourth year [of graduate school, the summer of 1966], he describes experiencing a period of several weeks where he was sexually excited nearly all the time and was fantasizing himself as a woman and being unable to obtain any sexual relief. He decided to make an effort to have a sex change operation. When he returned to the University of Michigan [most likely in late August or early September 1966] he made an appointment to see a psychiatrist to be examined to determine if the sex change would be good for him. He claimed that by putting on an act he could con the psychiatrist into thinking him suitable for a feminine role even though his motive was exclusively erotic. As he was sitting in the waiting room, he turned completely against the idea of the operation and thus, when he saw the doctor, instead claimed he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted. He describes the following:

    "As I walked away from the building afterwards, I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do and I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope. I thought I wanted to kill that psychiatrist because the future looked utterly empty to me. I felt I wouldn't care if I died. And so I said to myself why not really kill the psychiatrist and anyone else whom I hate. What is important is not the words that ran through my mind but the way I felt about them. What was entirely new was the fact that I really felt I could kill someone. My very hopelessness had liberated me because I no longer cared about death. I no longer cared about consequences and I said to myself that I really could break out of my rut in life an do things that were daring, irresponsible or criminal." [Psych Report] {Emphasis added}

    That happened sometime in the summer of 1966, most likely in late August/early September 1966. Probably mere days later, on or around September 3, 1966, bombs go off at the suburban Chicago house of Elmwood Park Mayor Elmer Conti and at a glass company on Paulina St. in Chicago. Within weeks there is another attack on a home of an Illinois politician Republican Senate nominee and Bell & Howell CEO Charles Percy, this one far more brutal and lethal, and his daughter Valerie Percy is murdered on September 18. One week later Monsanto chemical engineer Jerry Bricca, his wife Linda and daughter Debbie in suburban Cincinnati are bound and killed. On October 30, 1966, when evidence shows Ted Kaczynski is in California, the first probable Zodiac crime, the murder of college student Cheri Jo Bates occurs.

    His first confirmed Unabomber crime was in 1978, when he was 36 years old. Yet we know from research that the most active and violent period for the majority of serial killers is from their late teens to late twenties. And we see that Kaczynski reports the motivation, desire and ability to kill at least as early as the summer of 1966.

    In 1966 he was a sexually frustrated and confused young man who resolved to kill those he hated, which included "bigshots" but also college students and young women. He later recorded a fantasy of mutiliating a woman's face with a knife. He also wanted to - and did - kill "bigshots" like "big businessmen" and "politicians", and Bell & Howell CEO and soon to be Senator Charles Percy would represent those things to him, as well being a man associated with high technology through his company. And Mr. Bricca was a scientist working for a major corporation. The fathers of Valerie Percy, Linda Bricca and Cheri Jo Bates all worked for companies or facilities involved in technology that had government defense contracts.

    In September 1966, of course, Ted was officially enrolled at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Michigan. But his TA duties and course work were done, and his thesis almost finished. There was nothing to require him to be physically present at the campus. We know that sometime in the later Fall and/or Winter of 1966 evidence shows he went to California for job interviews at the University of California, Berkeley. Where Percy was killed in Kenilworth, Illinois is ony 30 mintues from the Kaczynski family home in Evergreen Park, Illinois. Ann Arbor is only a three to four hour trip by car or train to Chicago, and a four hour trip by car to Cincinnati, Ohio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKWILKS View Post
    Kaczynski matches the height descriptions of Zodiac, also hair cut and color. Like Zodiac he wore military shoes and a navy blue jacket. Ted weighed between 150 and 170 pounds. Weight descriptions on Zodiac are varied. As the Unabomber, Ted would wear multiple shirts and stuff a towel under them, put wax in his nostrils and cotton balls in his cheeks, all to make himself look heavier than he was.

    Later Lake Berryessa victim Hartnell said he overstated the weight of the attacker, who he said was wearing a "puffed up" jacket. Mike Mageau said Zodiac was 160 pounds, Kathleen Johns said 160 pounds, the Hakari and Bennallack suspect descriptions were 160 pounds.

    Zodiac suspect Arthur Leigh Allen was ruled out on the basis of DNA, fingerprints, handwriting and Officer Fouke said the 250 pound Allen was "100 pounds" more than the man he saw that night in San Francisco.
    The "Director's Cut" of Zodiac has an exacting account from the responding officer who through comparison of weight and depth of bootprints with his partner determined that Zodiac weighed approximately 230 pounds.

    I'm unaware where Hartnell ever eliminated Allen; certainly not in the Director's Cut.

    Foulk's account has been disputed.

    Having over a decade of experience working with DNA, I will state that unless the alleged DNA and fingerprints can be linked to Zodiac through a chain of custody, it is not possible to eliminate Allen. The chain of custody of that DNA is impossible to determine if you are discussing the DNA under the stamp on the envelope. We have no way to know how it was placed there. That being
    the case, it has little evidentiary value.

    In my opinion, the chances of Kaczinski being Zodiac range from somewhere between zero and none.
    “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”

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    'Hunting man is thrilling' and 'man is the most dangerous animal' would appear to be references to Richard Connell's short story "The Most Dangerous Game" and/or one of the movies based on that story (http://www.classicreader.com/book/1317/1/). Those lines don't appear word for word, but very close.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Zodiac's references...

    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    'Hunting man is thrilling' and 'man is the most dangerous animal' would appear to be references to Richard Connell's short story "The Most Dangerous Game" and/or one of the movies based on that story (http://www.classicreader.com/book/1317/1/). Those lines don't appear word for word, but very close.
    I believe that you are correct in this. Zodiac makes quite a few references or direct quotes of a number of books, poems, and movies in his many writings. While his spelling and grammar have many mistakes in them, it is likely that he did that intentially and that, in fact, he was well read, a student of history, literature and the arts, and very skilled at writing.

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    Wink Earlier "Beginnings"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AKWILKS View Post
    THE BIRTH OF THE ZODIAC?


    In the summer of 1966, most likely late August/early September 1966, Ted Kaczynski records a break through moment in his life. He is a genius, yet socially alienated and isolated as a math graduate student at the University of Michigan. ....
    ...In 1966 he was a sexually frustrated and confused young man who resolved to kill those he hated, which included "bigshots" but also college students and young women. He later recorded a fantasy of mutiliating a woman's face with a knife. He also wanted to - and did - kill "bigshots" like "big businessmen" and "politicians", and Bell & Howell CEO and soon to be Senator Charles Percy would represent those things to him, as well being a man associated with high technology through his company. And Mr. Bricca was a scientist working for a major corporation. ....
    Ted Kaczynski may have had thoughts of bombings and killings even earlier than 1966.

    In the fall of 1960, there was a domestic terrorist dubbed "The Sunday Bomber" by the press who was leaving bombs on various mass transit vehicles in New York City. The subway and a ferry boat were included in those targets. One person was killed and several were injured.

    Eventually a mental patient confessed to the bombings, but he was never tried for them.

    At the time, Ted was an undergraduate student at Harvard University Massachucetts - a reasonably close train ride to New York. Since all of the bombs were planted or detonated on Sundays, he could have been back in classes on Monday morning.

    After one of the bombings, an eyewitness described a possible suspect seen near the explosion site some time before the bomb went off. He was described as a middle aged man, somewhat over weight, who walked with a sort of limp.

    Many years later, when Ted was identified and arrested as the Unibomber, one of his former Harvard roomates spoke of how Ted had helped another student make a bomb.

    Could he have started his bombing career as early as 1960?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    The "Director's Cut" of Zodiac has an exacting account from the responding officer who through comparison of weight and depth of bootprints with his partner determined that Zodiac weighed approximately 230 pounds.

    I'm unaware where Hartnell ever eliminated Allen; certainly not in the Director's Cut.

    Foulk's account has been disputed.

    Having over a decade of experience working with DNA, I will state that unless the alleged DNA and fingerprints can be linked to Zodiac through a chain of custody, it is not possible to eliminate Allen. The chain of custody of that DNA is impossible to determine if you are discussing the DNA under the stamp on the envelope. We have no way to know how it was placed there. That being
    the case, it has little evidentiary value.

    In my opinion, the chances of Kaczinski being Zodiac range from somewhere between zero and none.
    I put zero stock in the "weight and depth" of footprints. Not science. And we don't even know for sure if those footprints are from Zodiac.

    Mageau saw Zodiac up close and he said 160 pounds; Johns was in the same car with him and said 160. But you are right some evidence points toward a heavier Zodiac. It is easy for a thin man to look fat; harder for a fat tman to look thin.

    If you are really interested in the possible Zodiac - Kaczynski connection, see www.unazod.com and check out the evidence there, and read the excellent 200 page book by Doug Oswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I believe that you are correct in this. Zodiac makes quite a few references or direct quotes of a number of books, poems, and movies in his many writings. While his spelling and grammar have many mistakes in them, it is likely that he did that intentially and that, in fact, he was well read, a student of history, literature and the arts, and very skilled at writing.
    Yes and in the RKO film "The Most Dangerous Game", the hunter and killer of men, and couples, Count Zaroff, dresses much like the Zodiac did at Lake Berryessa - black, boots, gun, knife, rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ted Kaczynski may have had thoughts of bombings and killings even earlier than 1966.

    In the fall of 1960, there was a domestic terrorist dubbed "The Sunday Bomber" by the press who was leaving bombs on various mass transit vehicles in New York City. The subway and a ferry boat were included in those targets. One person was killed and several were injured.

    Eventually a mental patient confessed to the bombings, but he was never tried for them.

    At the time, Ted was an undergraduate student at Harvard University Massachucetts - a reasonably close train ride to New York. Since all of the bombs were planted or detonated on Sundays, he could have been back in classes on Monday morning.

    After one of the bombings, an eyewitness described a possible suspect seen near the explosion site some time before the bomb went off. He was described as a middle aged man, somewhat over weight, who walked with a sort of limp.

    Many years later, when Ted was identified and arrested as the Unibomber, one of his former Harvard roomates spoke of how Ted had helped another student make a bomb.

    Could he have started his bombing career as early as 1960?
    That is very interesting, I will have to research that. I certainly Ted a suspect for the bombings in 1966 which were within minutes of his family home. When Ted was a prof at Berkeley from 67 to 69, there were also several unsolved bombings on campus, and of power lines, including the power line to a nuclear research facility.

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    Determining a pattern...

    Quote Originally Posted by AKWILKS View Post
    Richard - ...Keep in mind when you are trying to decipher the Zodiac codes you are most likely dealing with someone who was both mad and a genius. ....

    ... I suspect you may also be a right about a pattern in the final shuffle of the 18 letter string, but beyond a reversal and certain shifts, I have yet to detect an overall pattern. He may have added some randomness to increase difficulty of solution.
    Regardless of who Zodiac is/was, he was evidently someone who was obsessed with patterns, symbols, numbers and codes.

    When you look at almost everything that he did and everything he wrote, there are numberous examples of his warped thinking. But warped as it was, he had some sort of order or pattern to it all.

    Some investigators have pointed out that he really was not very origional and that almost everything he did was an imitation of something he had read or seen in a movie, or read in the newspapers.

    In trying to identify Zodiac, it is necessary to look carefully at his patterns - all of them, such as his ways of hunting and attacking his victims, his time schedule of both murders and message sending, and his overall chronology.

    No matter how smart or stupid a person is, they are creatures of habit and have patterns which they follow. It is possible to change or break some patterns, but not all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKWILKS View Post
    Yes and in the RKO film "The Most Dangerous Game", the hunter and killer of men, and couples, Count Zaroff, dresses much like the Zodiac did at Lake Berryessa - black, boots, gun, knife, rope.
    The short story doesn't have couples, just individual men. I wonder if any of the couples in the movie were similar to the couples he murdered?
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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