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    Scores missing in tsunami-like flood in Australia

    BRISBANE, Australia Greg Kowald was driving through the center of Toowoomba when a terrifying, tsunami-like wall of water roared through the streets of the northeast Australian city.


    Office windows exploded, cars careened into trees and bobbed in the churning brown water like corks. The deluge washed away bridges and sidewalks; people desperately clung to power poles to survive. Before it was over, the flash flood left at least 10 dead and 78 missing.


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    And to make it worse, from postings I was seeing on FB last night, the alert system was down in many areas at the time, leaving people with only the radio and television to alert them, which was already out in many areas....sort of a Catch-22.
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    Oh my Gosh this is so very sad and tragic. Are they reporting on why the tsunami's occurred? I will go look at the report now. I did know about the unusual and wide spread flooding they had been experiencing, but this is just terrible.

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    Okay, now I see from the article Dark Knight posted:

    But nothing downstream was expected to be as fierce as the flash flood that struck Toowoomba on Monday. It was sparked by a freak storm — up to 6 inches (150 millimeters) fell in half an hour.

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    This is not a tsunami, it is a terrible flood, with periods of flash flooding in some areas. The word tsunami means "harbor wave" in Japanese and refers to ocean waves caused by earthquakes or volcanoes.

    Local officials don't do the language any kindness by carelessly choosing what they think is the most dramatic word that refers to water. The flooding has been deadly and destructive enough in its own right.

    (ETA I'm not picking on any poster here. I'm referring to use of the word by local officials in Australia. We get it: the flash flooding was so violent, it looked and felt LIKE a tsunami. But that doesn't make it one.)

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    Did they call it a tsunami or did they describe the wall of water as "tsunami like"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125 View Post
    Did they call it a tsunami or did they describe the wall of water as "tsunami like"?
    Both, depending on which article you read. I certainly understand their use of the term "tsunami-like" (particularly given their relative proximity to the Indian Ocean and its deadly tsunami a few years ago). FWIW, that's also how Dark Knight used it--as a point of comparison--in the title of this thread. No argument there.

    I'm no doubt making a mountain out of a molehill, but in some areas, it matters very much whether a warning is for a tsunami, flash flood or storm surge, and using the terms interchangeably could lead to dangerous confusion.

    Not a perfect analogy, but imagine if public officials started calling tornados hurricanes or Nor'easters. Very different response times for each of those.

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    The flood's coming... flee for your lives: 40,000 homes in danger as deadly surge heads towards the centre of Brisbane

    * 40,000 properties are at risk from floodwater expected to hit Brisbane

    * Some areas lying 60 feet under water

    * Women and children among 78 still missing

    Tens of thousands of people have been told to flee Australia’s third largest city as catastrophic floods loom.

    At least 40,000 homes are at risk from the waters expected to hit the centre of Brisbane today and tomorrow.

    Floods raging down from the north combined with water released from a dam to prevent it bursting created a huge wave that was surging towards the city of two million people under sheets of drenching rain. Six inches fell in one half-hour period.
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Brisbane.html

    "tsunami-free" (either as adjective or noun) article! (unless I missed something) though the headline
    does feature a degree of hyperbole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    Both, depending on which article you read. I certainly understand their use of the term "tsunami-like" (particularly given their relative proximity to the Indian Ocean and its deadly tsunami a few years ago). FWIW, that's also how Dark Knight used it--as a point of comparison--in the title of this thread. No argument there.

    I'm no doubt making a mountain out of a molehill, but in some areas, it matters very much whether a warning is for a tsunami, flash flood or storm surge, and using the terms interchangeably could lead to dangerous confusion.

    Not a perfect analogy, but imagine if public officials started calling tornados hurricanes or Nor'easters. Very different response times for each of those.
    Ok, I just thought it was a way it was described. I thought maybe I was reading something wrong.
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    I saw a bit of this story this morning, but hadn't taken time with it until now.

    And WOW. All I have to say is WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125 View Post
    Ok, I just thought it was a way it was described. I thought maybe I was reading something wrong.
    I read a bunch of links, so I'm not even sure where I read it. I'm sure the speakers meant "tsunami-like." I just think it would be a shame to see that word come to mean any type of flood, because then they'll have to invent--and I'll have to learn!--a new word for tidal waves (there's a vague and inaccurate term) caused by earthquakes and volcanos.

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    What kind of warnings did they have??? This would have been horrifying, and from most things I have read is just unprecedented in terms of how quickly and viciously it happened.

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    Prayers for those affected!
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    Hoping all of our QLD members are safe and sound.((((hugs)))

    Thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected.The next 48 hours are expected to get worse. At least another metre expected overnight.

    Re: Tsunami... It wasn't a Tsunami warning, it was a flood warning (maybe flashflood)....They are just describing it as tsunami-like because the water level reportedly rose by 8 metres (26 ft) in just minutes. The words Inland Tsunami and Tidal wave have also been thrown about in the media.

    Regardless of what it's called it's a horrific tragedy. 12 people confirmed dead already. Scores missing.
    Yet in the midst of this disaster I am so proud to be an Aussie right now. The level of 'mateship' and selflessness I am seeing over and over on TV is so heartwarming and the epitome of Aussie-ness.

    If anybody is thinking of donating to the flood appeal I can provide you with the names of the trusted charities accepting donations.Not sure if I'm allowed to post them here.
    Many, many thanks to all those angels around the world who have already donated and who are sending out prayers and positive energy.
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