NV NV - Apex, I-15 MM 61, WhtFem 17-35, UP391, bound in sheet, Jan'79

CarlK90245 · Jan 14, 2011

The Doe Network:
Case 991UFNV http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/991ufnv.html
NamUs UP Case 391 https://identifyus.org/cases/391

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Unidentified White Female

* The victim was discovered on October 21, 1979 in Clark County, Nevada
* Estimated Date of Death: January 1, 1979
* Cause of Death: Homicide

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 17-18 years old Per DoeNet - 17 to 35 according to NamUs
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'3"-5'6'; 127 lbs. (Not estimable per NamUs)
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair.

Case History
The victim was located in a culvert on I-15 near Mile marker 61, in rural Clark County, Nevada on October 21, 1979,

Cubby · Jan 14, 2011

Originally posted in the rule out list. Copied here to the appropriate thread for this UID:

starburst said:
I find it so sad that so many unclaimed bodies do not even have proper information to later identify them.

Case in point: From Canada: Mary Francis Gregory
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gregory_mary.html

Boyfriend says he "dropped Mary Francis in Las Vegas".

There is an unidentified female found in the area:
https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/391

The dates match up. But, with no finger prints, no dna, no clothing, would dental be enough to match up? Would it be worth the notification?

Ms Suzanne · Jun 1, 2011

I noticed there were other Unidentified Jane Does were found in culverts.

Orange socks found in october of 79

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/33uftx.html

A Jane Doe I was very familar with was found in oct 83 in a culvert.They called her JD 83.She was Identified a few years ago as Bambi Lynn Dick.

I feel these could be the work of a serial killer.Possibly a truck driver?

CarlK90245 · Jun 1, 2011

Ms Suzanne said:
I noticed there were other Unidentified Jane Does were found in culverts.

Orange socks found in october of 79

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/33uftx.html

A Jane Doe I was very familar with was found in oct 83 in a culvert.They called her JD 83.She was Identified a few years ago as Bambi Lynn Dick.

I feel these could be the work of a serial killer.Possibly a truck driver?

Walker County Jane Doe was also found in a culvert.

bflocket · Aug 10, 2014

New link to Doe:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/991ufnv.html

CarlK90245 · Aug 11, 2014

FWIW, here's the dental chart on this Jane Doe.

* Her upper wisdom teeth (1 & 16) were removed, but the lowers (17 & 32) were still there and impacted.

* No fillings in her upper teeth (though she had cavities in 3 of the 4 remaining upper molars)

* She had fillings in both lower first-molars (19 & 30), and cavities in both lower second-molars (18 & 31).

That would rule-out Carolyn Bealer, as she had two upper-front false teeth.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bealer_carolyn.html

It would also rule-out O'Dina Lucero, as she supposedly had a capped canine tooth.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/15070/5

Jake479 · Feb 29, 2016

Bumping

carbuff · Feb 29, 2016

Only one ruleout: Laurie Smith (https://identifyus.org/cases/391)

Was Mary Gregory ever submitted? Yes, dentals are a reliable way to make an ID.

(And a hint for people bumping threads: it's good to bump, but it's even better if you can check for ruleouts and updates, or do a quick google for news updates, or even make a comment. It's kind of annoying to see a thread move up, think, "Oh there's news!:" and then find just a "bump.")

Fairy1 · Mar 2, 2016

Just a couple of thoughts:

At that time in October it would just be cooling off after months of hot! IMO, date of death could have been more recent than January.

The location of the remains indicates to me that whomever placed the body was going northbound on I-15.

The Apex is near Nellis AFB. It's built up quite a bit in recent years but in 1979 it would have been pretty barren. Here's a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/raymondyue/4668659878?ytcheck=1

There's a huge amount of traffic (and tons of big rigs) on I-15 between California and Utah.

CarlK90245 · Apr 14, 2017

From the Arroyo Grande Thread:

DaisyChains said:
Looking in my email
Chain about Mary Frances Gregory from Canada and Tiffany was able to compare DNA:

"Hello,

My office received a copy of the dental radiographs of Mary Frances Gregory. Mary Frances Gregory has been ruled out as being Jane Arroyo Grande Doe. We also compared Mary Frances Gregory’s family DNA to our Jane Arroyo Grande Doe and there was no relation based on genetic data. Mary Frances Gregory has been excluded.

Just an FYI…. Mary Frances Gregory’s dentals have been kept on file in our office to compare against all Jane Does. She has been excluded as being any of our Jane Does at this time.

Thank you,

Tiffany Brown
Coroner Investigator, D-ABMDI
Clark County Office of the Coroner/Medical Examiner
1704 Pinto Lane
Las Vegas, NV 89106"

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

(Emphasis Added)

I presume that "any of our Jane Does" would include this one too. I really thought this Jane Doe might be Mary F. Gregory

DaisyChains · Apr 14, 2017

CarlK90245 said:
From the Arroyo Grande Thread:

I presume that "any of our Jane Does" would include this one too. I really thought this Jane Doe might be Mary F. Gregory

Good catch Carl

thanks for posting the info over here.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Owutatangledweb · Apr 14, 2017

Namus still only shows one rule out. So, if Clark co has ruled out Mary Francis Gregory for this UID And for Arroyo JD, how does that get put in Namus?

CarlK90245 · Apr 14, 2017

Owutatangledweb said:
Namus still only shows one rule out. So, if Clark co has ruled out Mary Francis Gregory for this UID And for Arroyo JD, how does that get put in Namus?

Mary Gregory is from Canada, and therefore, is not listed in NamUs.

Owutatangledweb · Apr 15, 2017

CarlK90245 said:
Mary Gregory is from Canada, and therefore, is not listed in NamUs.

Thank you Carl. I am referring to the Namus for this UID and Namus for Arroyo. I thought maybe we could get Mary Francis as a rule out on those two Namus pages so that no one continues to look into her for those two UIDs. So, are you saying that because Mary Francis isn't from the US, she can't be listed in Namus as a rule out for our Namus UIDs at all?

Just looking for clarification so that I know how this works.

Thanks!

Cryptic · Apr 15, 2017

Ms Suzanne said:
I noticed there were other Unidentified Jane Does were found in culverts.

Orange socks found in october of 79

A Jane Doe I was very familar with was found in oct 83 in a culvert. I feel these could be the work of a serial killer.Possibly a truck driver?

I think you are right regarding the truck driver possibility. In regards to the culverts, as they go under the road to channel water from the surrounding terrain, they would make good places to conceal a variety of things including large quantities of drugs for later pick ups.

A body would be unlikely to be found for a period of time until discovered by hitchhikers (they use culverts as shelters) or maintenance workers. Heavy rains may also wash the victim out.

All that aside: If I remember right, culverts are marked with discrete "tab" type markers that can be seen from the road. Most drivers would not know this, but more than a few truckers would. Thus, culverts would be easy to find by a trucker.

theshadow45 · Sep 30, 2017

carbuff said:
Only one ruleout: Laurie Smith (https://identifyus.org/cases/391)

Was Mary Gregory ever submitted? Yes, dentals are a reliable way to make an ID.

(And a hint for people bumping threads: it's good to bump, but it's even better if you can check for ruleouts and updates, or do a quick google for news updates, or even make a comment. It's kind of annoying to see a thread move up, think, "Oh there's news!:" and then find just a "bump.")

Dona Bayerl 1940 Wisconsin has been added to the rule out list.

carbuff · Feb 20, 2019

Updated link:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Ruleouts:

Dona Bayerl, Wisconsin
Denise Oliverson, Colorado
Laurie Smith, Arizona

theshadow45 · Oct 21, 2019

Apex Jane Doe has been unidentified for 40 years today.

AnnieOakley · Jul 4, 2020

carbuff said:
Only one ruleout: Laurie Smith (The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs))

Was Mary Gregory ever submitted? Yes, dentals are a reliable way to make an ID.

(And a hint for people bumping threads: it's good to bump, but it's even better if you can check for ruleouts and updates, or do a quick google for news updates, or even make a comment. It's kind of annoying to see a thread move up, think, "Oh there's news!:" and then find just a "bump.")

It really would be nice to rule out Mary Gregory. Here is her missing info from Ontario's missing adults
Case View – Ontario's Missing Adults

Her DoeNetwork page indicates that there are detailed dental records of 10 teeth... I would think that would be enough to give some idea on a rule-out, or the possibility that this is her...
350DFON - Mary Frances Gregory
It also says her DNA is available at UNT--- would that mean she is actively being compared to US cases, or just that she could be compared if a specific request was made?

YaYa_521 · Jul 4, 2020

The timeline is probably off as are most of Rebecca Dunn's physical descriptors, but the circumstances surrounding her disappearance certainly make me wonder whether these are her remains.
Rebecca Jean Dunn – The Charley Project

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