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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    The more I think of it......the phone was not pinging at all during that time. Had it been, they would have said in another area or what not, they said NO PHONE USAGE. They didn't use the word "Calls" at all, only pings. He pulled the battery IMO.
    I was thinking they were tracking his pinging log and not his call log...with reference to the times reported...


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    That's so funny, because thinking about the stuff she printed out and remembering the ICA case, and the fact that I had the ping list printed out (ok, and scattered on the kitchen table and my desk) I thought, dang if anybody ever finds that, they are going to think I have a ping fetish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    12:00:00 PM: Billie claims a man (Charles) who lives with a neighbor (Travis) sees Hailey in yard talking on phone. Mike Board of WOAI claims his station found a woman who saw Hailey in the yard on the phone, but no time is given.


    if no one was at home with hailey at 12:00PM - why would she need to "step outside" to speak on the phone? I find this very unlikely...
    There is a video floating out there (sorry no link) of a male neighbor looking over a fence into Hailey's yard talking about seeing her there talking on the phone that day..The man mostly keeps his back to the camera but a few xs we get a sideways view of him..IMHO he didn't look too credible but I could be wrong.

    My 1st thought was 'reception' was an issue but IIRC Billie shot that down..When asked by NG if she went outside to talk in the yard for "privacy" she answered out of both sides of her mouth..I'm not sure if she did or not cos of it BUT! as NG was cutting her off Billie did say "if nobody was home why would she go outside to talk"..I think she also said "makes no sense" but I can't swear by that.

    I'd love to see this part of her many interviews with NG again & find the video of the neighbor but with so much out there at this point it's kinda like looking for a needle in a haystack!

    ETA!! Thanx to Crime I saw the video again & he does NOT say he saw her "that day" but "all the time".
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    Snipped by me:
    "(When we foudn out MB and HD had never spent the night at each other's house and MB's mom had never seen BD until she saw her on NG.)"

    This threw up a huge red flag for me. They had NEVER spent the night together. The moms had NEVER even met. Makes me wonder, if SA just couldn't remember any of her other friends' names, so he utilized a name he knew.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    teh you are so right... and I need to keep reminding myself to have faith in LE as what was disclosed in the affidavits per the pings was just enough to get the SWS's and get the phone records...

    there is more... I am sure of it
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    Snipped another:
    "There is a video floating out there (sorry no link) of a male neighbor looking over a fence into Hailey's yard talking about seeing her there talking on the phone that day."

    Was this a video that was on the news?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    I'm jonesin' for pings. I'm worse than a druggie, it's just a different addiction. There I said it.
    Here closer, try this link:

    www.pingsanonymous.jonesin'


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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    1. Billie saying on NG the other night that she checked on Hailey to 'EASE HER MIND'. Ease her mind of what??

    IMO that was a freudian slip or conciousness of guilt idk... she knew about something that had happened prior to that morning... possibly the night before...maybe HD was known to sneak out? maybe BO allowed HD to participate in using whatever she had purchased the night before? (I hope not)perhaps BO was "slipped something" and woke up with no memory of the previous night? or even HD was "slipped something" so that she and SA could do their thing?
    The more I see and hear makes me wonder... does anyone else think BO may have been MAJORLY jealous of the way SA felt about HD?
    ALL my questions only... None of this happened or was reported to have happened
    bolded by me....EXACTLY my thoughts too...EASE her mind?????.....
    IMO....there WAS a reason...to ease her mind.....
    See....that doesn't fit.....here B lets H go off to a friends house....and NEVER calls to check on her/chat with her....or even CALLS her to come home...but has the son call....( I know this overnight never happened..but I am talking about the behavior/statments B is saying out there to folks...)...then says she checked in on her to see if she was in her bed....because to EASE HER MIND...if she was in her bed....then adds...she was NOT SURE H was even IN HER bed..it just looked like she was...imo


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    Quote Originally Posted by brownies View Post
    Snipped by me:
    "(When we foudn out MB and HD had never spent the night at each other's house and MB's mom had never seen BD until she saw her on NG.)"

    This threw up a huge red flag for me. They had NEVER spent the night together. The moms had NEVER even met. Makes me wonder, if SA just couldn't remember any of her other friends' names, so he utilized a name he knew.
    That is what I thought from the start; he had to come up with a name to tell Billie and had heard MB at some point...
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    Here's a question that may effect the timeline and provide for more clean up time (IF SA is involved) or this could just be another inconsistency:

    Did DD get home at 4pm or 5pm?


    GRACE: OK. Billie Dunn, back to you. Here`s my question. You`ve got a 16-year-old boy. Was he at home the day that Hailey went missing?

    BILLIE DUNN: No, he wasn`t here that day until 5:00 PM. He had been with friends.

    GRACE: And at 5:00 PM, when he got home, was your boyfriend in the home?

    BILLIE DUNN: Yes.

    GRACE: OK. Between 12:00 PM, lunchtime, and 5:00, when your son got home, nobody but your boyfriend say Hailey, right?

    BILLIE DUNN: Right.

    AND:

    "On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.
    According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.
    David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

    http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html

    I think the affidavits say 4pm though....is that accurate or was the 4pm just in news reports? BD seems to be off on her times a lot. Wasn't it her who originally said that SA saw Hailey at 1pm, then changed it to 3pm and in this it's 5pm, when it's really 4pm (if this is accurate), etc...
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    Hello people, I'll post the ping and route maps from the NG show 1/12/2011. It's a little hard to read but you can see the ping times on the first map and routes that could have been taken on the second map.





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    Is there any "ping" info on the phone that Hailey "allegedly" used around noon on Monday?
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    So like if a person was buying prescription drugs in someone else's name,it would be considered illegal drugs to LE,they're not yours.But a person could say they were prescription drugs,not illegal,but it doesn't matter,because they're illegal if gotten through a doctor in another name or a person got them for you to buy to use in mixing with drugs and such.


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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    There is a video floating out there (sorry no link) of a male neighbor looking over a fence into Hailey's yard talking about seeing her there talking on the phone that day..The man mostly keeps his back to the camera but a few xs we get a sideways view of him..IMHO he didn't look too credible but I could be wrong.

    My 1st thought was 'reception' was an issue but IIRC Billie shot that down..When asked by NG if she went outside to talk in the yard for "privacy" she answered out of both sides of her mouth..I'm not sure if she did or not cos of it BUT! as NG was cutting her off Billie did say "if nobody was home why would she go outside to talk"..I think she also said "makes no sense" but I can't swear by that.

    I'd love to see this part of her many interviews with NG again & find the video of the neighbor but with so much out there at this point it's kinda like looking for a needle in a haystack!
    I posted the clip of the video with the neighbor. I don't know how to bring that over here, but it's post #516 on Thread 23. I know you can click on my user name and see all my posts to find it easier, if that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimejunkie View Post
    Here's a question that may effect the timeline and provide for more clean up time (IF SA is involved) or this could just be another inconsistency:

    Did DD get home at 4pm or 5pm?


    GRACE: OK. Billie Dunn, back to you. Here`s my question. You`ve got a 16-year-old boy. Was he at home the day that Hailey went missing?

    BILLIE DUNN: No, he wasn`t here that day until 5:00 PM. He had been with friends.

    GRACE: And at 5:00 PM, when he got home, was your boyfriend in the home?

    BILLIE DUNN: Yes.

    GRACE: OK. Between 12:00 PM, lunchtime, and 5:00, when your son got home, nobody but your boyfriend say Hailey, right?

    BILLIE DUNN: Right.

    AND:

    "On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.
    According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.
    David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

    http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html

    I think the affidavits say 4pm though....is that accurate or was the 4pm just in news reports? BD seems to be off on her times a lot. Wasn't it her who originally said that SA saw Hailey at 1pm, then changed it to 3pm and in this it's 5pm, when it's really 4pm (if this is accurate), etc...

    Yeah, the first few news reports reported 1pm as the time she was last seen. Then we get 3, and Billie saying she thought he came home at 1pm because that was normal. Then she says she found out what? Wenesday, that it was 3pm. I mean HELLO really, what yall didn't discuss this WHEN you reported her missing? The first thing the cops would ask is when was she last seen....I think this was their first screw up and they had to change the time.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.


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