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    Trust me, as a recovering alcoholic, this excuse is total ********. She is responsible whether stone sober or shitfaced. Perhaps she needs an AA meeting and read the steps.

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    It's incredible how TS seems to think that having consumed wine excuses one from all manner of criminal and/or immoral behavior.

    Anyone else come away from reading these 230 pages with the feeling that maybe Gabriel really was handed over to friends of TS/JS in San Antonio?
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    (((BeanE))) You are indeed a gem.


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    The system failed Gabe terribly, and failed Logan terribly. It is shameful. On the night of December 8, 2009, Gabe was well on his way to a good life with a loving father and big, wonderful family. I will just never get over it that that was taken from him, not just by Elizabeth, and Tammi, and Jack, but by the entire system. I don't understand it. I will never understand it. It is unforgivable.

    The tragedy in this case is monumental. There were so many points at which the train could have been stopped, and the train wreck averted.

    What happened to Gabe, whatever it was, just simply should not have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Flashlight View Post
    Trust me, as a recovering alcoholic, this excuse is total ********. She is responsible whether stone sober or shitfaced. Perhaps she needs an AA meeting and read the steps.
    If Tammi never takes another drink, there will still be this obsessive drive to acquire other people's babies. Babies via surrogacy websites, foreign babies, military wive's babies, babies in airports, soon to be born babies at burger joints, turkey baster babies. Even a random picture of a mother and baby on myspace compels her to inquire if maybe she can have that baby.

    Wow.


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    Are we to believe that the (50) discs that had to be reviewed ( can't remember if it was TS or EJ's attorney said)...would these 230 pages equal 50 discs worth of material ??? Surely not. But I dunno...

    There is a reason these documents were dropped...1/19...original date oral hearing for dismiss (1/24)...date which noted change for hearing 1/20 to 1/31...(I realize this was a calendar conflict)..


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    Pg. 23 of 2nd doc, towards bottom of page...Tammi stated they were NOT "desperate for a baby".......I wonder if TPS was under the influence of juciy juice when she said this....


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    Ej was issued a prepaid/debit card from the AZ Dept. Of Economic Security. Not familiar with AZ laws, would this be unemployment money (direct deposited)...????


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    I found the answer to my own question about unemployment benefits and a debit card in AZ. Logan said later int he documents that's how it was done, but her benefits had run out. If that's the case, how did she use the card for a hotel room. Unless of course, her benifits had not run out and he did not know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kappy50 View Post
    I found the answer to my own question about unemployment benefits and a debit card in AZ. Logan said later int he documents that's how it was done, but her benefits had run out. If that's the case, how did she use the card for a hotel room. Unless of course, her benifits had not run out and he did not know.
    I know I've read that food stamps and unemployment benefits are now debit cards here. Sorry didn't see your post from earlier until now. Good question. But also, unemployment benifits were getting last minute extensions due to the economy at that time. She might have qualified?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    I know I've read that food stamps and unemployment benefits are now debit cards here. Sorry didn't see your post from earlier until now. Good question. But also, unemployment benifits were getting last minute extensions due to the economy at that time. She might have qualified?
    Oh for sure Dr.K...my daughter was actually involved in that extension in "09 as well. I guess what struck me odd, was a statement by TPS (I'll go back and find it if ya'll make me...HA!) that EJ had a unemployment CHECK as part of her monies she had prior to leaving. Check/Debit Card could be percieved as the same thing I guess.

    TN. doesn't have direct deposit, on unemployment, I don't think. My daughter tried but the state said they do not, or did not at that time.


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    Interesting that Jack had a laptop serviced from Staples on 1/2/10 requesting "no" for permission to format/recover and perform backup. Why would you want to possibly lose all info on your computer???


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    Quote Originally Posted by TXHOPE View Post
    Interesting that Jack had a laptop serviced from Staples on 1/2/10 requesting "no" for permission to format/recover and perform backup. Why would you want to possibly lose all info on your computer???
    Not only that, but did you also catch that it was submitted for repair back in JULY?


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    Pg. 152...TPS states she felt like she was working to find Gabriel, but "Not being PAID for her efforts"...WTH...


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    Quote Originally Posted by kappy50 View Post
    I found the answer to my own question about unemployment benefits and a debit card in AZ. Logan said later int he documents that's how it was done, but her benefits had run out. If that's the case, how did she use the card for a hotel room. Unless of course, her benifits had not run out and he did not know.
    Hey Kappy!
    Even if EJ's benefits ran out, she can still use the debit card if there was still a balance on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TXHOPE View Post
    Interesting that Jack had a laptop serviced from Staples on 1/2/10 requesting "no" for permission to format/recover and perform backup. Why would you want to possibly lose all info on your computer???

    Yes, I wondered the same thing. When I read about the repair bill, my first thought was "they wanted something erased". I also think it's possible that this was ej's missing laptop and they used an old repair bill to make it look like it was theirs. But, I think they definitely wanted info erased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    Yes, I wondered the same thing. When I read about the repair bill, my first thought was "they wanted something erased". I also think it's possible that this was ej's missing laptop and they used an old repair bill to make it look like it was theirs. But, I think they definitely wanted info erased.

    YS...good thought here. If I read correctly there were (3) laptops at the home ? The only thing I've been thinking about in regards to the repair of "a" laptop in July. Since TPS & JS did not give the laptop to EJ, they would not have had any info in regards to what type,model,serial # and so forth for the July repair bill. However, it's not reported to whom gave EJ the laptop and not reported who EJ sold it too. But the Jan. 2nd. repair bill is a little fishy tho...still strummin on this and other things as well...


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