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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40



    Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
    Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-128-5294

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    Bringing over grandmaj's post from previous thread:



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    I'm seeing questions about sleuthing. Let me try to explain.

    Persons named as a POI or Suspect are fully sleuthable.

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    I hope this helps simplify sleuthing. I don't know too many people who don't have a skeleton or two in their closet. Just because they are related to, or somehow associated to a case like this, we can't destroy their reputation. Sometimes these associates or relatives move from this category to POI. Then the rules of sleuthing change.

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    I'm not sure how much relevance I'd put on what she was wearing. Girls change - at a friends house, at the mall, probably in any public rest room. Could even have had short-shorts on under the sweats, if she wanted to wear something she figured wouldn't be approved of... Even if BD is sure that no other clothing is missing, that doesn't mean she couldn't have bought/borrowed something mom knew nothing about.

    "Again - I don't know if she left the house willingly - but I wouldn't rule it out. And if the stories are true that she spent a lot of time in the backyard on the phone, then I have to wonder who she was talking to. At 13, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that she had a disposable cell that her mother didn't know about - they're not expensive - or someone could have given her one..." [posted by Debrlfan on past thread]



    I can see your point. I know my daughter used to wear her skimpier clothes hidden under baggier ones when she came in to say bye bye. Come to think about it, so did I when I was her age.

    But it was winter time. It is till hard to believe she took very little with her. And most important, I really believe she would have talked to a friend about it if she had some wild secret plan to go someplace cool. Why would she say she was going to MB's and then not tell MB to cover for her?
    And would she go someplace alone? When I lied and snuck around in middle school I always had a friend to get in trouble with me.
    I just don't see her being that sneaky in this situation. If she had an older bf I think we would know already.
    If anything, I could see her being snatched by a perp right outside her home as she left to go to her Dads. It is possible, but I still think that SA is a more probable suspect.

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    IMO Billie seems to be doing most things the EXACT OPPOSITE OF what would be the best direction to bring Hailey home.. This seems to be the case time and time again.. IMO she is attempting to manipulate some of the ppl involved as well as attempting to definitely manipulate situations involved in Hailey's INVESTIGATION..

    Here Billie is dramatizing the NG situation..Embellishing{IMO} whats occurred in and around the live broadcasts that we've all seen with our own eyes..
    Dunn said when most show broadcasts{NG show} are over, she calls law enforcement "scared to death." Often, officers have to calm her down.
    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333966
    She is again attempting to manipulate the situation because she doesn't like that the focus is on SA{as it should be..along with the focus should still be on her as she has yet been able to have her self ruled out by being honest and passing a poly}.. So because she doesn't "like" the focus she is attempting to demonize NG..her staff..and her program.. now we see her use LE to her benefit{where as earlier she was angry at them but now will turn around and use them FOR HER BENEFIT}..she says that after the NG shows that LE has to soothe and calm her down.. so they now are "good" to her and helping to comfort her from the big bad NG..

    IMO it is just another example of Billie making it all about Billie..
    The honest truth of the matter is that she is not in frequent contact with LE...like LE would very much like her to be.. She is not working daily with LE to do EVERYTHING WITHIN HER POWER TO HELP GET HAILEY HOME..
    The following snip further shows what I believe to be the case..
    Kampfer insists they're not giving up and that their investigation will continue even if numbers are lower. Dunn said conversations with Hailey's mother Billie are also less frequent. "We're in the same book, but not in the same page. We're not keeping a lot of contact, especially since the affidavits came out."
    http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13887971
    So IMO Billie needs to quit deflecting..and that is what shes doing..trying her damnedst to not have the focus on lover SA{and her as well}..she needs to get with LE and pass a poly..don't take the meds.. be 100% honest and pass the poly..have herself ruled out and then sit down and make out an accurate as humanly possible detailed timeline beginning on Dec.26th{Im quite sure Clint would be more than willing to do his part by filling in all details that he and GF can when Hailey was with them during those times}..

    That IMO would be doing everything she could to get Hailey home..

    But sadly instead we see Billie time and time again manipulate ppl and situations to serve her self..to serve her lover..to keep them and their "hobbies" off the hot seat..

    Guess what? you reap what you sow...You sowed all this fun and "awesome" love of horror..masks.. murder..throw in drug use..admitted illegal narcotics used..and admitted lies.. you sowed all of that and now you're reaping what you sowed with your butt on the hot seat.. Take it..its the consequence to your poor choices.. Take it...Because in the grand scheme of what your daughter most likely faced..IT DOESN'T EVEN COMPARE..AND THAT LITTLE GIRL DESERVES TO HAVE HER MOM "TAKE IT" SO THAT LITTLE GIRL CAN BE BROUGHT HOME AND JUSTICE SERVED!!!!!!!!
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    Billie does not see a relation to SA's masks, their hobbies, etc. and whatever it is that happened to Hailey. She does not see why anyone else would, or should, either.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post


    I can see your point. I know my daughter used to wear her skimpier clothes hidden under baggier ones when she came in to say bye bye. Come to think about it, so did I when I was her age.

    But it was winter time. It is till hard to believe she took very little with her. And most important, I really believe she would have talked to a friend about it if she had some wild secret plan to go someplace cool. Why would she say she was going to MB's and then not tell MB to cover for her?
    And would she go someplace alone? When I lied and snuck around in middle school I always had a friend to get in trouble with me.
    I just don't see her being that sneaky in this situation. If she had an older bf I think we would know already.
    If anything, I could see her being snatched by a perp right outside her home as she left to go to her Dads. It is possible, but I still think that SA is a more probable suspect.
    Well, if the reports of dogs picking up a scent going to the hotel are accurate, it could make sense. If she planned to spend the night with a boy (or at a party) there, then she might not have taken much - and again, we only know what she supposedly left the house with - she could have had anything stashed outside/with a friend.

    And why wouldn't she have clued MB in? Maybe because she feared MB would rat her out. Besides, it appeared that BD didn't really have a "hands on" parenting style, so HD probably wouldn't have expected anyone to check up on her.

    Still not sure I believe any of this - but I can see it fitting.

    Question - do I remember BD saying HD had stayed at the friend's house before? (I'm not sure of that.) If so - the other girl's mother claimed that she never had. Again - IF BD said she had - then HD might have done the same thing previously.

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    The sheriffs departments tell us there has been an officer involved shooting.

    TX-dot says state road 176 is closed between sr 137 and fm road 829.

    The Martin County sheriffs Department tells us the closure is the result of an officer involved shooting.

    We’re told Texas Rangers are on the scene investigating.

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    Is it noble of BD to go on NG over and over to deflect suspicions away from her, and especially SA? She is doing this in the name of Hailey?

    And yet, BD, herself, has not found out and been able to clear up the information that makes SA so darn suspicious. It's hinky to me.

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    I got the impression that Billie said that H slept at friends' homes frequently, but not specifically MB's. But then she also said she was annoyed that H did not call her at work to tell her...and she wishes she had called over to MB's.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    I'm wondering if SA left work because he received a call or text regarding HD? This would explain why he left and also why he erased info from his phone.... Maybe even HD sending a message that somehow angered him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Billie does not see a relation to SA's masks, their hobbies, etc. and whatever it is that happened to Hailey. She does not see why anyone else would, or should, either.
    And not everyone does. IMO
    My posts are strictly MY opinion under circumstances when many points of view need to be considered. I apologize in advance to anyone whose potential involvement is contemplated in error, or who may be offended because I do not see eye to eye with them on all matters related to this case. I hope our differences can be set aside as we unite in the search for this victim or the perpetrator of this crime. Your opinions and insights are just as valuable as mine.

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    But SA told BD those messages on his phone just disappeared. BD knows that can happen, and doesn't see how SA could be involved. Those messages must tell a story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    And not everyone does. IMO
    I didn't say that it does have anything to do with H, but that is the point Billie seems to be trying to stress, above all else, and that seems odd to me. Honestly, she has spent more of her on-air time defending SA and her choices, etc. than discussing Hailey.
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    Re; the text messages/phone calls...the affidavits show that the records were summoned for SA's and BD's phones. So LE will have the phone calls, messages, photos, etc. (anything that was sent or received).

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    Why did the step mom not remember seeing Hailey or not? She says she did at first. then changed it. Anyone about to point me in the direction of her interveiw?

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    Where did the SM (CD's GF) not remembering come from? I have yet to see an article about it, maybe I'm missing it. If any one has a link could you post it pretty pleaseeeeeeeee? TIA
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Where did the SM not remembering come from? I have yet to see an article about it, maybe I'm missing it. If any one has a link could you post it pretty pleaseeeeeeeee? TIA
    I havent been able to find it either and sure would like to see it.

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    lol............Soul looks like we are thinking alike.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Where did the SM not remembering come from? I have yet to see an article about it, maybe I'm missing it. If any one has a link could you post it pretty pleaseeeeeeeee? TIA
    I havent seen the g/f intereveiw so I am not sure what was said in that , So the flow of information as I know it to be is from...

    CZGTZ's very first post which is enlighting now that all the other information has come to light the date of this post is 12/31/10.

    Paying attention to what she says about both MB's statements and clints girlfriends statements

    Thread one page 2 , the best I can do right now.

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    According to KCBD News 11 @ 6pm the 2 search organizations will leave after this weekend search however they have taught local searchers how to search on their own.

    BD needs to provide any more information she might have and stop covering for SA or this case is going to lose national attention and her daughtr being in the spotlight. Breaks my heart for Hailey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CONNIEHU View Post
    According to KCBD News 11 @ 6pm the 2 search organizations will leave after this weekend search however they have taught local searchers how to search on their own.

    BD needs to provide any more information she might have and stop covering for SA or this case is going to lose national attention and her daughtr being in the spotlight. Breaks my heart for Hailey.
    LE is scaling back, search organizations are leaving and BD saying what she did about NG show yesterday. This isn't good.


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    Sadly I doubt Billie knew which friend's houses Hailey was staying over at frequently.


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    I had to run errands this afternoon, and was wondering if you all saw/discussed that a man has been arrested in connection with the missing girl in Lubbock that had a general resemblance to Hailey. tia and I can add a link if it isn't in the previous thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Where did the SM (CD's GF) not remembering come from? I have yet to see an article about it, maybe I'm missing it. If any one has a link could you post it pretty pleaseeeeeeeee? TIA
    Here's the source:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5953002&postcount=5"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Darlene Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27-Dec-2010[/ame]


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    At this point, Billie was understandably panicked. She contacted Clint's girlfriend, who first said that yes, Hailey did come over Monday, but later said that she was not sure if she saw her or not. Another grey area. At this point, it is like Hailey disappeared into thin air while crossing the street.
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