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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #42



    Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
    Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-128-5294

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    So when does a case warrant their own forum? What are the parameters? IIRC Gabriel Johnson had a forum by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Flashlight View Post
    So when does a case warrant their own forum? What are the parameters? IIRC Gabriel Johnson had a forum by now.
    Here's Kimster's response to a forum request (from thread #36)


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    No forum at this time.

    Forums require even more mod support. That isn't going to happen until we see more responsible posting in this case. The same problems happened with the Somer Thompson threads and it took a long time before we could prepare a forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    Here's Kimster's response to a forum request (from thread #36)
    Ok I see but what does she mean by responsible posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Flashlight View Post
    Ok I see but what does she mean by responsible posts?
    TBH, there's too many posts violating forum rules: sleuthing folks that shouldn't be sleuthed, posting links to minors, posting minors' names, bickering, baiting, bashing LE, going OT, name-calling, posting w/o links, discussing rumors that were "put to rest", etc.

    Mods spend their time cleaning up the thread - many (hopefully most all) posts in violation are removed so it may not seem as problematic as it is.

    That said, responsible posting means following the rules while discussing the case.

    HTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    TBH, there's too many posts violating forum rules: sleuthing folks that shouldn't be sleuthed, posting links to minors, posting minors' names, bickering, baiting, bashing LE, going OT, name-calling, posting w/o links, discussing rumors that were "put to rest", etc.

    Mods spend their time cleaning up the thread - many (hopefully most all) posts in violation are removed so it may not seem as problematic as it is.

    That said, responsible posting means following the rules while discussing the case.

    HTH.
    I totally understand the reasons, and agree with your assessment, but IMO, if there was a thread for "pings" a thread for "the earrings" a thread for "what the hairdresser saw", etc., it might reduce the amount of "rehashing" of things that have been cleared up time after time, in thread after thread.
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    He is scheduled to meet with the Parole Board on July 30, 2015. PLEASE take a few minutes to write to the Parole Board, asking them not to release him early. Address your emails to Victim Advocate Ruth Ogle (rogle@dpscs.state.md.us) or to David Blumberg (dblumberg@dpscs.state.md.us) of the Maryland Parole Commission.
    He destroyed the life of a beautiful 8 year old girl for his own perverted purposes, and poses an ongoing threat if/when he is released.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    TBH, there's too many posts violating forum rules: sleuthing folks that shouldn't be sleuthed, posting links to minors, posting minors' names, bickering, baiting, bashing LE, going OT, name-calling, posting w/o links, discussing rumors that were "put to rest", etc.

    Mods spend their time cleaning up the thread - many (hopefully most all) posts in violation are removed so it may not seem as problematic as it is.

    That said, responsible posting means following the rules while discussing the case.

    HTH.
    Thank you for helping us to understand the delay in getting a forum for Hailey!

    I don't want to sound argumentative or disrespectful, but I do agree that part of the problem with re-hashing old leads which have been discounted is that day after day, we have people coming to the forum who may not have been able to read every single post on every thread. They may mention an old lead or ask about it, someone else sees their post and repeats the lead as fact, then regulars attempt to answer the first poster's question. Bickering inevitably ensues. It really is no one poster's fault, just a lack of an organized way to access information.

    There are facts about sensitive issues such as BD's parenting and lifestyle around the kids and CCPD's handling of Hailey's case which could be discussed more responsibly on both sides of each issue. The line between discussing these facts as they affect the case and bashing simply to complain or harshly condemn is sometimes blurry. The alternative would be not to discuss these issues at all. I think it would be helpful if mods could help us understand how "bashing" would be defined so that we could still acknowledge the issues without all of the drama.

    I know that it would be very helpful if we could all remember to be very clear when posting an opinion so that it can't be confused with stating a fact. The easiest way for me is to always put "My Opinion Only" or "Just Speculating" unless I am stating a proven fact. I know we all really want a new forum, and I am willing to do whatever I can to help anyone new to learn the ropes!

    I am very, very glad that we have our wonderful moderators and Tricia to help keep Websleuth's a civilized place to go for intelligent discussion.
    There are plenty of other forums to go to for bickering, petty gossip and pointless bashing. I am happy to be here, even when I have to use the "edit" button to stay out of trouble!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Law Enforcement Investigating New Out-Of-State Lead In The Search For Hailey Dunn

    Pete Kampfer told KTXS Sunday, they are following a lead in Memphis, Tennessee. Kampfer said he wasn not able to tell us anymore, except that they are looking into the lead.

    http://www.ktxs.com/news/26590286/detail.html
    Posters need to be put out if they have any faith in this lead. Memphis is a long way from CC and unless they are big NG fans or sleuthers they probably have not even heard about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnoliaMom View Post
    Posters need to be put out if they have any faith in this lead. Memphis is a long way from CC and unless they are big NG fans or sleuthers they probably have not even heard about this.
    I know. I never hear about anything until after nancy gets ahold of it. But if she doesnt then some cases dont even get attention. (Samantha Clark 4example)

    why would they mention the tip to the media if it didnt have any merit? I would think it would have been checked out already, do they mention it the leads to show tips are coming in ?

    I would think they would call for the public to keep their eyes and ears open and encourge the public to hand of flyers and pass nformation along in social media and remind the public of the reward.

    Answer some questions about any changes that may have affected their efforts this far. ect..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnoliaMom View Post
    Posters need to be put out if they have any faith in this lead. Memphis is a long way from CC and unless they are big NG fans or sleuthers they probably have not even heard about this.
    Memphis and Colorado City are a lot closer to each other than Roanoke and San Fransisco were. You can't get much further away from Virginia than California without leaving the country.

    If a woman in California recognizes a missing girl from Virginia...(44 hour drive, 2700 miles) from seeing her once on Nancy Grace, then I'm not going to discount a tip from Memphis about a missing girl in Texas (12 hour drive, 700 miles). Hailey has also gotten more national coverage as well.

    Not to mention, we do not know for sure what this tip is. It may be a tip about SHAWN having a history in this area. Tips in other cases have been about previous assaults and their locations.

    Either way, whether it is a sighting, a possible body location, or a tip about a suspect I see NO reason to discount it because it's 700 miles away. Elizabeth Smart was taken 700 miles away too. It only takes watching Nancy one time. Or stumbling on the story online.

    Taken from Virginia, found in California. 44 hours, 2700 miles away by a Nancy Grace viewer.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../13/ng.01.html

    SHANLEY: So I went in and asked the clerk to call their local police department, which would be the Richmond station, and she did. She dialed it for me. And I spoke to them and said, you know, there's a young girl out here with a white male from 25 to 35, and she looks to be between the ages of -- I think I said 15 to 18, but she`s young. And it doesn't look right.

    And last night, I'd seen a show on CNN, and there was a woman crying to -- her aunt, asking for him to bring her home for her mother's funeral and for Christmas. And that was first time I had seen her face. And her brown eyes is what got me. So I said -- as I'm talking with the police officer, I says, I was watching CNN, Nancy Grace, I think it was your show. I just know it was CNN, and that it may be this child from Virginia.

    And the cop even said, Virginia? And I said, yes, there was a murder in Virginia, and the man killed the woman and took the child, and this might be them. I wasn't sure, but my intuition was telling me something's not right here. And sure enough, it was her and him. My intuition was right.



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    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376

    ME mom speaks out.
    MB received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

    She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but G says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.



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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedmother View Post
    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376

    ME mom speaks out.
    MB received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

    She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but G says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.
    Well, isn't this interesting timing of her speaking out. But I wish she'd answered the million dollar question - why didn't MB respond?? Why was there no response to that text from the good ole friend?? That's what I want to know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnoliaMom View Post
    Posters need to be put out if they have any faith in this lead. Memphis is a long way from CC and unless they are big NG fans or sleuthers they probably have not even heard about this.
    I not sure I have faith in this lead But I hope it pan out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnoliaMom View Post
    Posters need to be put out if they have any faith in this lead. Memphis is a long way from CC and unless they are big NG fans or sleuthers they probably have not even heard about this.
    Obviously I am in Memphis...just got home and haven't heard anything about a Memphis connection.
    Excuse me if this has already been cleared up.
    Just replying to the first page of this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Redcat, do you happen to remember on your first post, you wrote that it was widely believed that Hailey left with an older boyfriend...where you heard this, or why this might have been the initial idea of people in town? I know it does not seem at all likely now, just wondering, thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by redcat View Post
    That was the "word on the street" at that time...but that quickly faded out with no evidence.
    I believe cz had mentioned that the boy was found, interviewed, and determined not to be involved, IIRC...
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