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    You know what is really sad...is that there are so many other mothers who would give anything to have the exposure that BD did on this case. They would have used that time and those resources wisely (NG, MK, the Laura people, the fact that they had the Rangers and the FBI and the Secret Service all working on it at once, and all of the great volunteer searchers) and would have done everything in their power to help LE and all of the rest to work together to find Hailey.

    Every day there are more and more young girls who go missing...and more and more stories to be heard. It is a shame that one woman's lies are hogging up the airwaves when so many more moms and dads are out there with missing babies of their own.

    Sorry if this is considered OT. Just really feeling it tonight. It must be really hard to be a searcher on this one. Thank heavens they are searching for Hailey...and for all of the right reasons...because BD sure isn't helping them out one bit.

    So sad...



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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I hope they haven't hit a dead end. It is starting to feel like Haleigh Cummings and Kyron
    and Zahra Baker---where it SEEMS like we can see where the case is headed, and it just stops. It is so frustrating to feel that feeling all over again now.
    Two threads ago there was a discussion about a couch....At least it was not bouncing like in the Haleigh Cummings thread!!!

    What was the final outcome on the couch discussion? Was it a rumor that SA took his couch and loveseat when he left? Was this the couch that Hailey was sleeping on before she got her new TV in her room? Could there have been DNA on the couch that SA was trying to destroy? Could the couches be a key element in Hailey's disappearence? Does LE know about the couch(es)?

    Hope those questions have not already been answered.

    One more thought that has been nagging at me....Did they use Luminol when they searched BD's home???

    Off to bed..night all.

    DEAR GOD... PLEASE BRING HAILEY HOME TO THOSE THAT LOVE HER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    thanks, now i wonder what day he ordered it. maybe the 27th?
    It was a custom mask, made for SA's face, I do not recall the details...but think the mask maker stated SA contacted him early Dec...the info should be on MM site.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    Somebody saw something, whether it was SA driving through town or Hailey walking down a street.
    Has LE put out a picture of the car SA was driving 12/27 and 12/28 and ask if anyone saw it or ask all businesses to please review any video footage and report any sighting to LE...

    Someone might remember seeing it..
    I think LE did something like that on another case maybe kyron's....

    Maybe something a local search group could do ....go down the main streets that SA would travel and see what street cams/ business cams are available...
    Anyone who has video of their parking lot that fronts on the street might...

    If they rotate out after 30 days...there is still time to get them....

    Wouldnt that car be on film somewhere in that 2 + hours Monday


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    thanks, now i wonder what day he ordered it. maybe the 27th?
    Per the seller, December 7th.


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    Off the subject: but wondering

    Direct me to the right place to post this please Mod: But while traveling this weekend from Texas to New Mexico, on N.M. Highway 132 we passed a XXX adult place it was a old barn like building, there was only 1 car there but this was at least 15 miles from hobbs N.M> and about 15 from Denver City Texas, out in the friggin middle of Nowhere: Just Sandy scrub oaks around. The first thought I had was, what a creepy place it was, but a good place to have girls stashed out for the sex trade that has been in the news lately. Just wondering WTH was that doing out in the middle of the boonies ! And let me tell you it was not classy, a old rundown looking warehouse thing. Just hoping we have some N.M> locals reading this and can shed some light on that. IDK thought it was worth a post, since in the beginning of the HD case N.M. was mentioned as a possible place she might be. I am telling yall I got the coldest creepiest feeling when we passed by, it was nearly dark and I was glad to see the lights of Hobbs N.M. and then adventually happy to be back in Texas. Please give me a pass if this is improper posting. But somebody should check this dive out !
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    Theres places on 208 that should have cameras too.
    The only way your going to find out anything is to hit the streets and start talking. Stand in the middle of the darn street with a sign and make the drivers stop and talk to you, find out if they came down the street on Mon-Tues.
    it was the Monday after xmas. Kids should be out riding new bikes, using skateboards, scooters, shooting hoops on their new basketball hoop. People should have been outside.
    The folks can't let this die, the clues are in the neighborhood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by captdj View Post
    Has LE put out a picture of the car SA was driving 12/27 and 12/28 and ask if anyone saw it or ask all businesses to please review any video footage and report any sighting to LE...

    Someone might remember seeing it..
    I think LE did something like that on another case maybe kyron's....

    Maybe something a local search group could do ....go down the main streets that SA would travel and see what street cams/ business cams are available...
    Anyone who has video of their parking lot that fronts on the street might...

    If they rotate out after 30 days...there is still time to get them....

    Wouldnt that car be on film somewhere in that 2 + hours Monday
    Theres evidence there someplace.


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    Does anyone know how well homes were searched around her house?
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    involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
    it tolls for thee. . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang Sally View Post
    Two threads ago there was a discussion about a couch....At least it was not bouncing like in the Haleigh Cummings thread!!!

    What was the final outcome on the couch discussion? Was it a rumor that SA took his couch and loveseat when he left? Was this the couch that Hailey was sleeping on before she got her new TV in her room? Could there have been DNA on the couch that SA was trying to destroy? Could the couches be a key element in Hailey's disappearence? Does LE know about the couch(es)?

    Hope those questions have not already been answered.

    One more thought that has been nagging at me....Did they use Luminol when they searched BD's home???

    Off to bed..night all.

    DEAR GOD... PLEASE BRING HAILEY HOME TO THOSE THAT LOVE HER!
    I too am interested to know what ended up being the outcome of the "couch" that is believed to be the one that Hailey slept on every night in the living room..

    Does anyone know for certain what exactly became of it and was it tested? If not why not?

    Awfully hinky for anyone to be getting rid of anything like furniture out of their home while in the midst of your daughter being abducted{and quite possibly murdered as well}and an entire investigation going on around your home..yourself..and your boyfriend...

    Anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    Does anyone know how well homes were searched around her house?
    Not for sure, but that is a neighborhood where there is a Pitbull stationed in the back yard of nearly every house ! And rumor has it where there are bad dogs there are Bad Dogs ! JMI


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    I too am interested to know what ended up being the outcome of the "couch" that is believed to be the one that Hailey slept on every night in the living room..

    Does anyone know for certain what exactly became of it and was it tested? If not why not?

    Awfully hinky for anyone to be get rid of anything like furniture out of their home while in the midst of your daughter being abducted{and quite possibly murdered as well}and an entire investigation going on around your home..yourself..and your boyfriend...

    Anyone know?
    hmmmm... the comfy couch seems to be a mystery !


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    I too am interested to know what ended up being the outcome of the "couch" that is believed to be the one that Hailey slept on every night in the living room..

    Does anyone know for certain what exactly became of it and was it tested? If not why not?

    Awfully hinky for anyone to be get rid of anything like furniture out of their home while in the midst of your daughter being abducted{and quite possibly murdered as well}and an entire investigation going on around your home..yourself..and your boyfriend...

    Anyone know?
    I'm pretty sure someone said they were going to call in the tip yesterday, but I can't remember what thread # we were on last night. I also think that redcat (local) said LE was aware of the couch, but didn't elaborate any further as to who contacted them, what was said etc.

    I HOPE that is being looked into and taken seriously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    I also think a photo of Hailey should be put in her front yard. A large photo. People ride down that street everyday, the same people going back and forth to work. Make them remember.
    Interviewing people with a photo and asking them questions doesn't always jar their memory. But a photo in the right spot might.
    I thought I did see a Photo in the front Yard ?

    I did see on another site that Hailey group were having business cards made up. I thought that was good idea.
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    There has also been some discussion of the couch 'downstairs'
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...125252&page=24

    Please remember: as the mods have said, while locals can provide insight, what they say can only been taken as a rumour, at least until it has been cross-referenced with MSM or LE etc.
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