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    Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
    Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-728-5294

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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    If BD was there why didn't DD say something about that too to his dad? I would think he would mention that mom was there and wouldn't open the door or something along those lines. jmo
    Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
    I am just thinking he was stoned. But also if you look real close, he kind of has that look about him anyway. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    I am just thinking he was stoned. But also if you look real close, he kind of has that look about him anyway. jmo
    I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
    Along those same lines I wonder what was so urgent for DD to climb through a window to get in and then not stay. I really don't think CD was very involved in their lives so I am not surprised he didn't say anything. I don't find that strange. And you are right there probably hasn't been everything released. Then again LE may have thrown that into the affadavit trying to make their case against SA look better. ijdk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
    I've seemed to miss this part. Will you fill me in on this, please? TIA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
    Maybe she took last hour meal and got off work early. Some get 1 1/2 hrs for meal. Either way I was taken back that she was still up Monday night after working all day (12 hrs) and still awake when she last seen Hailey between 10 and 11pm. I work 12 hr days and Im completely exhausted when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
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    Where does it state "something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad"? I am questioning the timing and if DD went to "get his dad". I may be reading this wrong but did DD get CD to come to the house? Is there a link for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
    I know for me-- the use of "nobody" would answer the door, rather than "no one" would answer-- makes me believe there was an assumption that more than one person was in the home. moo

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    I wanted to clarify my post about using big words was in reference to PK, the city manager spokesperson guy, not Hailey's father. IMO, PK's statements to the press are strange, and contradictory at times. I'm a little baffled how LE is letting him speak for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I wanted to clarify my post about using big words was in reference to PK, the city manager spokesperson guy, not Hailey's father. IMO, PK's statements to the press are strange, and contradictory at times. I'm a little baffled how LE is letting him speak for them.
    I'm betting because he volunteered and no one else wants to do it.

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    Good point pondering.......I wonder if she was home. I feel for BD's friend, she comes on her and bless her for that.....but goodness me, what contradictions we look at with what BD says and what is in the affadavits and what she says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SailorMoon View Post
    Good point pondering.......I wonder if she was home. I feel for BD's friend, she comes on her and bless her for that.....but goodness me, what contradictions we look at with what BD says and what is in the affadavits and what she says.
    How many affadavits are there. Seems when I find them, it is just the same thing over and over. I know there is a contradiction about buying the drugs--she says groceries---what other contradictions are there? tia

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    "SA Daniel A COTTNER and SA Janet THOMAS interviewed Clint Dunn, 1-5-2011, and he stated DD had told him he returned home at approximately 4pm on Monday afternoon 12-27-2010 and pounded on the door for about 5 minutes and nobody would let him in. DD made entry through a window and got into the residence. SA Janet THOMAS later interviewed Billie DUNN who confirmed that DD had indeed pounded on the door and nobody would let him in and he then made entry into the residence and observed Shawn Adkins standing in the hallway with a deer in the headlights look"


    Bringing forth this portion of the affidavit though I know I'm gonna get pelted with apples ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    "SA Daniel A COTTNER and SA Janet THOMAS interviewed Clint Dunn, 1-5-2011, and he stated DD had told him he returned home at approximately 4pm on Monday afternoon 12-27-2010 and pounded on the door for about 5 minutes and nobody would let him in. DD made entry through a window and got into the residence. SA Janet THOMAS later interviewed Billie DUNN who confirmed that DD had indeed pounded on the door and nobody would let him in and he then made entry into the residence and observed Shawn Adkins standing in the hallway with a deer in the headlights look"


    Bringing forth this portion of the affidavit though I know I'm gonna get pelted with apples ..
    I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

    but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

    If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

    but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

    If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?
    katy, I don't believe Hailey was even in her bed that morning to be honest. I hope I am proven wrong...you have no idea how much I hope that's the case.. I DO NOT mind being wrong, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    katy, I don't believe Hailey was even in her bed that morning to be honest. I hope I am proven wrong...you have no idea how much I hope that's the case.. I DO NOT mind being wrong, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    ITA hope we are wrong............
    Me too girl! Sometimes you just want to be wrong so badly ...and this is one of those times..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondering Mind View Post
    katy, I don't believe Hailey was even in her bed that morning to be honest. I hope I am proven wrong...you have no idea how much I hope that's the case.. I DO NOT mind being wrong, lol!
    I understand. And I don't think she really walked out that door at 3;15 either. But what I am saying is that they have given the cops this target time of last seeing her; 3:15 at Chestnut St.

    So everything the cops look at radiates out from that exact time and place. Every player is going to be looked at specifically in terms of what they were doing and where they were AT 3:15. So I do not believe that BD could have been there without the cops knowing already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I understand. And I don't think she really walked out that door at 3;15 either. But what I am saying is that they have given the cops this target time of last seeing her; 3:15 at Chestnut St.

    So everything the cops look at radiates out from that exact time and place. Every player is going to be looked at specifically in terms of what they were doing and where they were AT 3:15. So I do not believe that BD could have been there without the cops knowing already.
    I don't believe from what I have read and the way I have interpreted what LE has said that they are *assuming* that she left @ 3:15 from that address. Not at all..especially given that SA is the only person that says that...MOO

    actually, I will try and find a specific article or vid? where they even mention something about her whereabouts from the night before. I'll go look for it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I understand. And I don't think she really walked out that door at 3;15 either. But what I am saying is that they have given the cops this target time of last seeing her; 3:15 at Chestnut St.

    So everything the cops look at radiates out from that exact time and place. Every player is going to be looked at specifically in terms of what they were doing and where they were AT 3:15. So I do not believe that BD could have been there without the cops knowing already.
    Very good points!! Besides, if Billie was there, it would be pretty simple for LE to prove that. Which would give LE a whole different timeline. So far there is nothing to indicate that she was not at work as she claimed. That's one of the first things LE checks, the alibis of the family members. If it had turned up that she was not at work when her son called her, we would have known it by now, Nancy would have been all over it.
    And I don't think Billie would be stupid enough to try to pull that off, by claiming she was at work when she was actually at home. However, there is 45 minutes from the time SA said Hailey left the house to when DD knocked on the door at 4 o'clock. So what if she came home somewhere in that 45 minutes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

    but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

    If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?
    We have no proof of that, as far as I can see.

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