01-29-2011, 02:59 PM #1
TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #49
Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-728-5294
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01-29-2011, 02:59 PM #2
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01-29-2011, 03:00 PM #3
Originally Posted by grandmaj
I'm seeing questions about sleuthing. Let me try to explain.
Persons named as a POI or Suspect are fully sleuthable.
Minors are never sleuthable. When copying a quote from MSM we even change minor's names to initials only.
Everyone else. You can discuss what they have said in media appearances, what the news has quoted them as saying, and their actions as reported in the news. We don't get into their personal lives, accuse them, discuss their background unless it is in MSM. Only discuss them so far as what MSM is reporting.
I hope this helps simplify sleuthing. I don't know too many people who don't have a skeleton or two in their closet. Just because they are related to, or somehow associated to a case like this, we can't destroy their reputation. Sometimes these associates or relatives move from this category to POI. Then the rules of sleuthing change.
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Carry ON. Hailey.
01-29-2011, 03:11 PM #4Former Member
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There should be searches going on today right? Anyone know where?
I read that there could be very cold temps Monday and Tuesday and possibly even sleet or snow.
01-29-2011, 03:16 PM #5
I believe I've read the organized searches are Wed and Sat?
01-29-2011, 03:23 PM #6
Regarding "the man who threatened Hailey and I" that BD states has not been talked to nor found by LE. I was thinking about who the heck this could be and remembered one of the neighbors saying their child was bitten by one of BD's dogs around a year ago? Am I remembering this correctly? Could the man who threatened them be related to the dog incident? Just a thought.
01-29-2011, 03:27 PM #7
Dogs? That right I heard them barking in one of the interviews. Are they inside dogs or outside dogs? The yard isn't completely fenced who walks the dogs?
Did neighbors hear the dogs barking in the a.m. on Monday or any time during the night?
01-29-2011, 03:29 PM #8
About the polygraphs and CD not taking one...
I do not recall any MSM reference insinuating that LE only asked BD and SA to take a poly and not CD. In contrast, from everything I've seen /read, and according to BD herself---BD and SA OFFERED to take a poly, as did CD. Just so happens SA and BD took theirs first and after the results...well, IMO LE didn't see a need to administer one to CD; since BD and SA OFFERED and FAILED - they sorta hung themselves.
GRACE: We are taking your calls. I want to go back to Hailey Dunn`s mother. Ms. Dunn, I was very impressed when you volunteered to take a polygraph test. It was not like cops asked you and you hum-hawed around. You went and you took the polygraph. You kicked -- you didn`t kick the boyfriend out, but you told him to leave. Ms. Dunn, but I`m concerned that you seem nervous. And many people construe that to believe, to mean, that you are afraid your live-in, the boyfriend, had something to do with Hailey`s disappearance.
OK, I`m not -- can Billie not hear me right now? Can you get her IFB corrected? Liz, yes, no? OK, while I`m waiting on the chance to go back to Billie, let`s go to Marc Klaas. Weigh in, Marc.
MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: I think one of the reasons that so many people are confused by these stories is that the inconsistencies aren`t only coming from the family. And let me give you a couple of quick examples.
On December 31st, Police Chief John Biven (ph) said his department considers Hailey a runaway, and that`s what the evidence demonstrates. On January 10th, law enforcement said that Hailey`s case has always been approached from two different angles, runaway and criminal. On January 10th, a DPS trooper told a meeting of Colorado City middle school students that he`s confident that Hailey`s alive and in hiding. Later that day, he said there`s no evidence to support that assertion. And it gets worse from there.
GRACE: OK. I think I have Billie Dunn back. Billie, can you hear me?
BILLIE DUNN: Yes.
GRACE: OK, Billie, I want very much to believe you, and I was very impressed that you volunteered to take that polygraph. Nobody made you do it. And they couldn`t make you do it. But you did it all on your own.
BILLIE DUNN: Right.
GRACE: ...Before you judge her too harshly for failing that polygraph, she`s the one that volunteered to take the polygraph, all right? She asked for the polygraph. She is the one that called us and said, Hey, I flunked the poly, and then I was questioned for 10 straight hours.
BILLIE DUNN: Thanks for having us again. I don`t know. They had me very faithful (ph) in that test. We brought the polygraph up first. We asked for it, and they were told us -- they told us they were very confident in those tests. They -- I put a lot of confidence into those tests.
The first Friday they had it set up for us to take, we had taken Ativan the night before to go to sleep. They didn`t tell us we couldn`t have anxiety medicine. So when we were able to get it set up again -- Shawn had actually called them and asked them if he could come down and take it yet, and they said yes. They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.
01-29-2011, 03:31 PM #9
Yes, searches set up from the LRC training are going on today. There are other smaller groups that are searching separate from that. No idea where. Cohesiveness and organization of all the groups seems to be hard to locate on this one. So, not sure what or who has searched where, KWIM?
01-29-2011, 03:35 PM #10
I think we are both right actually this article says they migrate south however some stay behind BBM
Turkey vultures breed throughout Texas but typically migrate south in the winter. Although some stay year-round, most spend the winter in Central America. Black vultures also migrate and may travel as far south as Brazil. Both are common in open country, woodlands, fields and farms, with black vultures more likely to be found near human settlements and garbage dumps.
01-29-2011, 03:37 PM #11
Just a reminder on polygraphs:
- the Courts have found that they are not scientific and cannot be used as evidence.
- Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer, passed a polygraph.
- Aldrich Ames, spy for the Soviet Union, passed polygraphs.
- Bill Wegerle, who was falsely convicted of killing his wife (actually killed by BTK), failed a polygraph twice.
01-29-2011, 03:51 PM #12
Can someone post the thread number we were on when the affidavits were released? Someone nicely posted a link where I downloaded the PDF file, but now I can't find it on my computer. I went to the Big Country Site, but it said the file damaged.
I would greatly appreciate any help anyone could provide me. I'm on dial-up and it's a pain to try to download something. I searched my computer for the file, but I can't find it. However, I found stuff from 2005! LOL
Thank you very much!"If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you!"
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01-29-2011, 03:52 PM #13Former Member
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For those posters that have been around WS for a while on these missing child cases, how unusual is it to have a suspect two weeks into the case?
I only wish the cases I had been on here, there was direction toward to suspect so early.
Of course I think Casey Anthony was an exception to the rule as far as my cases. So I have to wonder what evidence does LE have?
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01-29-2011, 03:53 PM #14Former Member
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01-29-2011, 04:00 PM #15
Continuing a discussion with BeanE from the last thread:
If I am not mistaken, you stated that there is a distinction between being told that your results on a LDT were "deception indicated" and being told that you failed the test. In other words, when the affidavit says they asked her to explain the results of her test, and Billie was unable to do so, she was not told she had "failed" the test, per se, but that deception had been detected?
If this is the case, I can see why she BELIEVED she had been told she had failed. If she had passed, what would she need to explain? I probably would have assumed that, when asked to explain why I was "being deceptive", I was being told I had "lied" and had, in essence, "failed".WE DID IT! Convicted pedophile Donald Scott Brunstetter (details in the CAPER - Citizens Against Pedophile's Early Release Forum http://www.websleuths.com/forums/for...ht-on-Children) will remain behind bars for the duration of his sentence. Thanks to WS members, and Tricia's True Crime Radio listeners, at least 100 letters were received by the Parole Board prior to his July 30th, 2015 Parole Hearing, opposing his release, and they listened.
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