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    Quote Originally Posted by Missjones View Post
    Yes the LL is still a suspect too. I have read that the defence will only find out the full details of evidence in May at the next court hearing. Not sure if that is true. If VT doesnt know the exact evidence against him how can he plead innocent of guilty, but has to wait 4 months to find out? Does anyone know if this is true?
    He/his team must know some of the evidence against him (or else surely they wouldnt be able to hold him). The four months before the plea would I imagine give the defence team time to analyse the evidence and gather their own before deciding what to plea. Which would make him sound guilty - but I suppose this is the norm. Also by not applying for bail - none of the evidence against him is exposed to the press. ANY information leaked by word of mouth could be devastating to both parties.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Missjones View Post
    Yes the LL is still a suspect too. I have read that the defence will only find out the full details of evidence in May at the next court hearing. Not sure if that is true. If VT doesnt know the exact evidence against him how can he plead innocent of guilty, but has to wait 4 months to find out? Does anyone know if this is true?
    To be fair, if he is innocent, he should be pleading as such, now matter what evidence the police allege to have.

    FAO: Otto

    When you have a minute, can you just clarify what VT's brother said about VT being in the States for work? from what I can gather, he was in the States for 6 weeks? JY & GR had only been in the flat a couple of months, so I am guessing he only would have been around them for a couple of weeks before Dec 17th? TYIA.

    I do wonder at times it could have been a case of mistaken identity? was VT's GF the target?
    Not to help justice in her need would be an impiety ~Plato~


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    Quote Originally Posted by whitedove View Post
    Nice picture, it would be nice if it was posted on this page.

    Anyone know how to post pictures on the front page like video's, or maybe it won't post on this page?.
    Lots of help here at this link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missjones View Post
    Yes the LL is still a suspect too. I have read that the defence will only find out the full details of evidence in May at the next court hearing. Not sure if that is true. If VT doesnt know the exact evidence against him how can he plead innocent of guilty, but has to wait 4 months to find out? Does anyone know if this is true?
    His defence is paid for from public funds ("interests of justice rule").

    He won't be asked to plead until the May 4th hearing. By then his defence team will have been given a bundle by the CPS (called the "depositions") which is basically evidence they have against him - forensics, autopsy, his own police interview transcripts, witness statements, police statements, phone records etc etc. A copy of the depositions is then given to VT too.

    I think it was said in court today the "depts" should be provided around 1st April. If his defence team get them then (sometimes they're late), then they have them to peruse for up to a month before VT is due to plead so by May 4th they'll have an idea of the strength ..or weakness...or the case against VT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
    We dont know EXACTLY what the alibi is - well I have never heard the police say what it is. BUT I am assuming its the timings regarding his visit to his brothers up north and possibly cctv/mobile phone reception etc. I dont think the police would step over him to arrest/suspect/charge the neighbours if his alibi wasn't solid.

    When we had the press conference from the police where they stated that he was not a suspect - were they at that point able to analyse the DNA?
    Thanks Lynn R, if that were so then why didnt the LE state that he was not a suspect because of partial DNA, phone records etc, this was only reported by the press not by the LE. Would have made GRs life a lot easier if they had.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
    I noticed last night on court serve that Vincent Tabak was going to be via video link from Long Lartin in Worcestershire but any references made by the press, that I could find anyway, said that he had been moved to a prison in Gloucester. Now, even a Scot like me knows that Gloucester is in Gloucestershire (isn't it???)

    Again another example of the press talking mince.

    BTW I wonder why he appeared via video link. Is this the new way to save money etc? is it optional or would there have been some other reason?
    Hope this helps.

    Published: 27 Jan 2011

    Tabak was charged last Saturday with murdering Jo, 25, and remanded to Bristol's Horfield prison.

    But officials moved him from the city for his own safety due to the high-profile case.

    The 6ft 4in architectural engineer was taken to Gloucester but then transferred to Long Lartin, near Evesham, Worcs.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...in-prison.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Missjones View Post
    Thanks Lynn R, if that were so then why didnt the LE state that he was not a suspect because of partial DNA, phone records etc, this was only reported by the press not by the LE. Would have made GRs life a lot easier if they had.
    I don't know - again 'I assume' the less information they give out to the public the better. I suppose they assumed that the fact they ruled him out and never arrested him was enough, I personally bet they wrung their hands in despair when they found out his alibi was good - that was their easy ticket. Also maybe there is infomation in that alibi they don't want the public to know - like exact timings of his departure perhaps?

    I dont know the usual process where this is concerned. Maybe someone else can think of a similar example?


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    Quote Originally Posted by enzeder View Post
    Hope this helps.
    Ah thank you!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldielox View Post
    His defence is paid for from public funds ("interests of justice rule").

    He won't be asked to plead until the May 4th hearing. By then his defence team will have been given a bundle by the CPS (called the "depositions") which is basically evidence they have against him - forensics, autopsy, his own police interview transcripts, witness statements, police statements, phone records etc etc. A copy of the depositions is then given to VT too.

    I think it was said in court today the "depts" should be provided around 1st April. If his defence team get them then (sometimes they're late), then they have them to peruse for up to a month before VT is due to plead so by May 4th they'll have an idea of the strength ..or weakness...or the case against VT.
    [QUOTE=Luna15;6081888]To be fair, if he is innocent, he should be pleading as such, now matter what evidence the police allege to have.
    FAO: Otto Yes I agree but it appears he isnt allowed to until 4th May ( for the grace of God go I) you have to wait 4 months
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    Not sure if this has been highlighted already:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/2011/01...5875-22838073/


    'But it yesterday emerged pictures from Clifton Suspension Bridge’s CCTV – one of the best hopes of a breakthrough in Jo Yeates’ murder hunt – could be too dim to show her killer or their car registration.

    The tourist attraction provides the most direct route from the 25-year-old’s flat to the roadside verge three miles away where her body was dumped.

    According to toll-keepers though, the bridge’s shoddy pictures will not identify the strangler’s face because the landmark’s 3,000 LED lights cause a glare which greatly reduces CCTV quality.

    They will also be unlikely to pick out registration plates of every motorist. It will be a huge blow to desperate detectives hoping for their first major development in the hunt for Jo’s murderer.'



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    [quote=Missjones;6081969]
    Quote Originally Posted by Luna15 View Post
    To be fair, if he is innocent, he should be pleading as such, now matter what evidence the police allege to have.
    FAO: Otto Yes I agree but it appears he isnt allowed to until 4th May ( for the grace of God go I) you have to wait 4 months
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    Do we know if this is the case? I was surmising in my post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillb View Post
    Here's a bit of help regarding posting images to forums.

    http://www.ibdguy.com/posting.shtml

    You need to host your images onto a photo hosting website like flickr, photobucket, or Image Shack. They generate an image IMG code you embed in this comment section.
    Lots of different ways to do it really. Forum tags if you use Firefox for example.

    It looks a bit confusing at first, but is easy enough with a bit of practice.
    I have posted pics on here, it lets you move them into position with the writing, but when its posted, its on the next page, I ve never seen a picture on this front page on this forum, but video's will post on here, maybe you can try and post a pic, if I know it can be done, I will have another go.


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    Front page of The Sun tomorrow

    Jo's dad: We feel so sorry for McCanns.

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...uary_1%2C_2011

    Not to help justice in her need would be an impiety ~Plato~


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna15 View Post
    Front page of The Sun tomorrow

    Jo's dad: We feel so sorry for McCanns.

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...uary_1%2C_2011



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    [quote=Lynn R;6081977]
    Quote Originally Posted by Missjones View Post


    Do we know if this is the case? I was surmising in my post.
    We can only surmise from what the family have said, and this is a good indication I think (if true of course)

    On Monday, staff and students at Eindhoven Technical University, where Mr Tabak studied architectural engineering, announced the creation of a fighting fund to aid his defence.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...Christmas.html
    Not to help justice in her need would be an impiety ~Plato~


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