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    Could the olive skinned man have gained entrance into the Hunter home by saying that he had some documents to deliver for one of the parents? This would have been a good excuse for carrying a briefcase to the door.
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    http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ons.html?cat=4

    I was thinking about Morman students that go door to door in cities and Jehovah Witnesses who do the same and found this article. I found the last part quoted below very interesting.


    "Jehovah's Witnesses may be on a street corner in the city, but you are more likely to meet them at your door, holding a Watchtower and Awake magazine. The women will wear skirts or dresses and carry a book bag, the men will wear suits and carry a briefcase."

    Do you think it could have been someone like that at the door that day?
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    I wonder why they have never released the autopsy reports on the Hunter/Sherman deaths? Don't most states release those when the autopsy is complete? Oh, I forgot, this is Omaha and they do things differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I wonder why they have never released the autopsy reports on the Hunter/Sherman deaths? Don't most states release those when the autopsy is complete? Oh, I forgot, this is Omaha and they do things differently.
    This is one reason I considered filing a FOIA request, YD! Autopsy reports should be available unless considered part of an active/ongoing investigation. This case seems to be a cold case, however, so maybe they could be released. BUT...IF the LEA determines releasing info could compromise an open case, they can refuse the request. Those reports would sure be helpful as the drawings and details would give us an idea on body placement in the home as well as an idea of the H home floorplan.

    From my understanding, whoever makes the request is responsible for paying for all the copies and it can get quite pricey. I guess we have no idea of knowing how many copies would be included unless it was actually filed. (I wish I were independently wealthy)

    A poster on the Brittanee Drexel case that I follow has filed one FOIA request and has recently filed a subsequent request. I'll try and contact our WS on that thread, mlatta, to pick his brain and see what I can learn from his experience.

    I am surprised that news outlets in Omaha haven't already filed such a request after all this time. (which makes me a bit suspicious, to be quite honest.)

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    Olive Skin

    I also wish to comment on the olive skinned man.

    OPD's concern that the composite sketch did not reflect enuff of the 'olive' in the man's skin tone bothers me. I wonder how many neighbors witnessed this man and whether other features were described as similar. IMO, if the OSM was Asian, those features would be noticable...If the OSM were AA or mixed, certain features would be noticeable.....If the OSM were hispanic, certain features would be noticable. Many of my former students were immigrants from Mexico and SA. (My students from mexico had more of a red skin tone, much like Native Americans. Some of my students from Honduras and other SA countries had more Olive skin, but not all depending on the country) My dear bf is of Russian Jewish descent (Kiev. His grandparents arrived at Ellis Is. as immigrants and were quickly given a new surname which was easier to pronounce in the USA) and his skin is very 'Olive colored' during the winter. In the summer sun, his skin becomes very dark and mediterranian-like.

    The composite profile sketch featured a dark haired man with a VERY prominent nose! I hope that OPD or FBI is looking at this closely and ruling out nationalities based on the descriptions they do have. For instance, MOST people of asian descent have slanted eyes......Most peeps of AA descent have wide nostrils and flatter noses from a profile view. Peeps from Mexico have a reddish skin tone.....

    I hope no one feels as though I am being disrespectful towards anybody's heritage as that is not my intent. I am only trying to narrow down the nationality/ heritage of this Olive skinned man and hoping that OPD is already working on this.

    The prominent nose on the composite sketch narrows it down for me.

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    WM, I too have found the Omaha news media to be rather apathetic in regards to this case. They do their little annual news report and that's about all you hear until the next year rolls around.
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    I don't see many Jehovah's witness members travelling alone, though
    the description fits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brudsaunt View Post
    I don't see many Jehovah's witness members travelling alone, though
    the description fits.
    I understand there was a group of Jehovah's Wittnesses going through that neighborhood that week. They were not in the immediate area of the Hunter home but a couple of them later contacted OPD to report something suspicious. I got this third hand but the person telling me this said they reported seeing someone sitting in a parked car a couple blocks away about the time the killings went down, this person was talking in an agitated manner on what looked to them like a walkie-talkie device.
    I would assume they got the license number and that OPD cleared the matter, that's all I was told.
    FWIW, I was also told by a coworker right afterward that a teenaged girl in the Dundee area saw a man fitting the POI's description looking in at her through a patio window, about two days prior to the killings. He left in a hurry once he kmew he'd been seen. Again, I have no firm information on that. I believe that incident was reported to OPD.
    Sometimes this whole thing reminds me of the JFK murder. Lots of funny little things..
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    Quote Originally Posted by brudsaunt View Post
    I don't see many Jehovah's witness members travelling alone, though
    the description fits.
    It would also fit a computer repair person. They usually carry a shoulder bag. Not to say that's who the POI was, but maybe that's who he was posing as.
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    Snick, I recall hearing unconfirmed reports of the JW missionaries in the area but had not heard of the man peeping at the teenaged girl. EWWW how creepy is that?

    Surely the OPD has invesitgated this report thoroughly. This rumor would certainly lend credence to YellowDogs stance that the killer is from the immediate area.

    But then, the suspicious man in the parked car on a walkie talkie leads me to believe otherwise.

    I really don't know what to think anymore. I wish we would get an update. It is too quiet

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    Someone in a car using a walkie-talkie device makes me think more of robbers working in pairs. One working as a lookout while the other one commits the burglary. It reminds me that the Anderson home was burglarized after the reported murder/suicide. Also, wasn't there a reported burglary in the Hunter neighborhood? Could this be a group of professional burglars targeting this area because of it being an upscale neighborhood?
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    When I hear about the guy on the walkie-talkie, it makes me think of a hit. Or at least a coordinated murder, the guy doing the knifing would be the guy that was paid. The guy in the car sounds like the one ordering the hit or at least the one coordinating it. Either way, this sounds complicated, and less likely to be a murder to cover up a burglary in progress, particularly when you think about how methodical and calculated (medical knowledge) and effective this perp was at pulling this off--not the skills of the average burglar.

    My gut tells me MB is involved. I tend to think he is the POI. However, i also think he could have been the person in the car on the walkie talkie. I sure would like to hear how this guy was described by witnesses!


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    Quote Originally Posted by geojeffrey View Post
    When I hear about the guy on the walkie-talkie, it makes me think of a hit. Or at least a coordinated murder, the guy doing the knifing would be the guy that was paid. The guy in the car sounds like the one ordering the hit or at least the one coordinating it. Either way, this sounds complicated, and less likely to be a murder to cover up a burglary in progress, particularly when you think about how methodical and calculated (medical knowledge) and effective this perp was at pulling this off--not the skills of the average burglar.

    My gut tells me MB is involved. I tend to think he is the POI. However, i also think he could have been the person in the car on the walkie talkie. I sure would like to hear how this guy was described by witnesses!
    Geojeffery, It makes me think of a hit also, which was my first gut feeling in this case. I just can't can't reconcile in my mind why though????

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    Quote Originally Posted by geojeffrey View Post
    When I hear about the guy on the walkie-talkie, it makes me think of a hit. Or at least a coordinated murder, the guy doing the knifing would be the guy that was paid. The guy in the car sounds like the one ordering the hit or at least the one coordinating it. Either way, this sounds complicated, and less likely to be a murder to cover up a burglary in progress, particularly when you think about how methodical and calculated (medical knowledge) and effective this perp was at pulling this off--not the skills of the average burglar.

    My gut tells me MB is involved. I tend to think he is the POI. However, i also think he could have been the person in the car on the walkie talkie. I sure would like to hear how this guy was described by witnesses!
    Okay, so we know the POI stopped and started their car as if looking for an address. I also thought I read earlier that the witness thought they were on a cell phone. Could this have been a walkie-talkie instead? We know these are used by LE (or two-way radios if you will) as well as Dog the Bounty Hunter! And the user does take a risk their conversation could be heard by a shared frequency. I know I bought my daughter one a couple years ago for play and she could basically use it only around the house and yard. However, she did tell me a creepy story that she swears she left it on one night and heard her current teacher talking to his son (who he called by name and we are familiar with as they used to go to the same daycare). I assumed she was dreaming but she swears she was awake and heard it. They live clear across town. But this is also not the first time we've heard another car was parked nearby. This is such a tragic mystery.


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    I wonder where this car was parked with the man on the walkie talkie. The description of this man sounds like he was a lookout and the w.t was a quick way to say get the He!! out of there. Was he parked where he could see if Dr Hunter was on his way home or where he had a view of the house in case anyone arrived?

    How would the killer know for sure that Tom and Shirlee would be there? Tom was a young boy and participated in some extra curricular activities so how did they know he would be there that day? I assume Shirlee's schedule was easily tracked if she indeed worked the same schedule at her clients homes each week.

    How were these murders pulled off leaving little evidence behind? It seems to me that killing 2 people would be difficult and one of the victims would have fought during the attack. My hope is that someone had dna under their fingernails. But that is not much help if the perp has never been arrested and dna never collected from him, I reckon.

    I agree with mac about the walkie talkie convos being heard. I think they probably had a code word in case the killer needed to get out quickly. I can't imagine taking a risk of conversation regarding the crime.

    OT I am dating myself here but I remember when all mobile phones were on a cellular signal and one could here others conversations on the car radio frequency!

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