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    Catalog of Defense Blunders: Let us count the ways

    Here is my first one: (oh how I love to "thwart" Baez and I am not KB): I dedicate this thread to Caylee and to my BFF Cecy...who helped me with the title...

    Jose Baez, Esquire
    522 Simpson Road
    Kissimmee, FL 34744

    Dear Mr. Baez:

    In your correspondence to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office you have stated your willingness to fully cooperate with law enforcement regarding the investigation of Caylee Anthony’s disappearance within the confines of your ethical obligation to your client, Casey Anthony.

    In response to your offer to fully cooperate, I am requesting that you provide the circumstances and location Caylee Anthony was last seen. As you are aware, the previous statements provided by your client have been false and misleading.

    The law enforcement personnel involved in the search for Caylee Anthony acknowledge your ethical obligation to you client. We hope that it is your client’s genuine desire to help find her daughter and to uncover the truth. We are also hopeful that you are able to provide the circumstances and location that Casey Anthony last saw her daughter, and that you understand the information we are requesting is crucial to the search for Caylee Anthony. If you are willing to assist in this matter, please contact me at your earliest opportunity.

    Sincerely,

    Kevin Beary
    Sheriff of Orange County

    Sergeant John Allen
    Criminal Investigations Division
    Missing Persons Squad
    (407) 254-7222
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________
    Here’s the response FROM Jose TO OC Sheriff’s Office:
    September 22, 2008
    via facsimile

    Orange County Sheriff’s Office
    Attn: Sgt. John Allen
    2500 West Colonial Drive
    Orlando, FL 32408

    Re: State of Florida v. Casey M. Anthony

    Dear Sgt. Allen:

    I was pleased to see that your office has decided to take me up on our offer to cooperate in the search for Caylee Marie Anthony. Albeit two months later, it is better late than never, I suppose.

    I was, however, displeased by the fact that I had to hear about your fax from the media before I even got the chance to read it. Nonetheless, I will convey your message to my client and discuss it with her further.

    Please give me a call when you are more interested in searching for Caylee, as opposed to trying to improve your office’s public relations image. I realize that your office is under a lot of pressure because you haven’t found Caylee, butyou should conduct your efforts in a more productive manner as opposed to leaking your communications with me to the media.Sincerely,

    Jose A. Baez, Esq.

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    Well the embarrassment of that absurd letter aside, I'd say two big blunders he made early on were not insisting on a speedy trial for his client (say well before Caylee's duct taped little remains were found), not fighting a gag order (which made his later complaints about the media seem disingenuously insane) and the fact he picked a two-bit criminal for a PR manager before he even had the good sense to assemble an opportunistic "dream team" (which clearly established where his actual interest in the case lay). That's three more I guess.
    "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices" - Voltaire

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    Yet another blunder that immediately comes to mind is Baez not convincing Casey to take the plea deal that was offered early on (also before the remains of Caylee were found). IIRC, it was only 8 years she would have had to serve under that offer - she probably would have been pretty close to getting out soon on good behavior. But, nooooooo - she & Baez thought they were so much smarter than LE et al.
    Did you know that "Dammit, I'm mad" spelled backwards is "Dammit I'm mad" - well, I still am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitty35 View Post
    Here is my first one: (oh how I love to "thwart" Baez and I am not KB): I dedicate this thread to Caylee and to my BFF Cecy...who helped me with the title...

    Jose Baez, Esquire
    522 Simpson Road
    Kissimmee, FL 34744

    Dear Mr. Baez:

    In your correspondence to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office you have stated your willingness to fully cooperate with law enforcement regarding the investigation of Caylee Anthony’s disappearance within the confines of your ethical obligation to your client, Casey Anthony.

    In response to your offer to fully cooperate, I am requesting that you provide the circumstances and location Caylee Anthony was last seen. As you are aware, the previous statements provided by your client have been false and misleading.

    The law enforcement personnel involved in the search for Caylee Anthony acknowledge your ethical obligation to you client. We hope that it is your client’s genuine desire to help find her daughter and to uncover the truth. We are also hopeful that you are able to provide the circumstances and location that Casey Anthony last saw her daughter, and that you understand the information we are requesting is crucial to the search for Caylee Anthony. If you are willing to assist in this matter, please contact me at your earliest opportunity.

    Sincerely,

    Kevin Beary
    Sheriff of Orange County

    Sergeant John Allen
    Criminal Investigations Division
    Missing Persons Squad
    (407) 254-7222
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________
    Here’s the response FROM Jose TO OC Sheriff’s Office:
    September 22, 2008
    via facsimile

    Orange County Sheriff’s Office
    Attn: Sgt. John Allen
    2500 West Colonial Drive
    Orlando, FL 32408

    Re: State of Florida v. Casey M. Anthony

    Dear Sgt. Allen:

    I was pleased to see that your office has decided to take me up on our offer to cooperate in the search for Caylee Marie Anthony. Albeit two months later, it is better late than never, I suppose.

    I was, however, displeased by the fact that I had to hear about your fax from the media before I even got the chance to read it. Nonetheless, I will convey your message to my client and discuss it with her further.

    Please give me a call when you are more interested in searching for Caylee, as opposed to trying to improve your office’s public relations image. I realize that your office is under a lot of pressure because you haven’t found Caylee, butyou should conduct your efforts in a more productive manner as opposed to leaking your communications with me to the media.Sincerely,

    Jose A. Baez, Esq.



    Wow, I havent seen that letter before... Interesting. So Baez has been a snark from the get go.. how rude
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    Lawyers shouldn't hire PR managers because they shouldn't need them and they call too much attention to the case. Don't PO the judge. Don't go to court unprepared. Don't forget deadlines. Don't go to court thinking you can get continuances indefinately. Budget your money according to your case needs. Don't overestimate your case or your client. Don't forget to call your experts.

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    There is nothing I can say that doesn't rise to the level of hypocrisy and well lack of manners that the defense has presented in defense of their "esteemed" client. This is just a small taste of what the defense has been throwing at the state from day one. Period. It makes me ill. They have nothing. Nothing good for their client and the defense is acting like they have an angel on their hands. GMAB!!!!

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    Getting Judge Strickland recused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cecybeans View Post
    Well the embarrassment of that absurd letter aside, I'd say two big blunders he made early on were not insisting on a speedy trial for his client (say well before Caylee's duct taped little remains were found), not fighting a gag order (which made his later complaints about the media seem disingenuously insane) and the fact he picked a two-bit criminal for a PR manager before he even had the good sense to assemble an opportunistic "dream team" (which clearly established where his actual interest in the case lay). That's three more I guess.
    Fighting against a gag order, imo, is one of the biggest blunders JB made in this case. Not because it makes him seem disingenuous when he complains about the media, but because WHAT DEFENSE ATTORNEY in their RIGHT MIND would fight a gag order in a case like this? Jose Baez!

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    Quote Originally Posted by babiesstolemydingo View Post
    Getting Judge Strickland recused.
    ITA! Save for the fact that HHJP is going to be a harder Judge than they anticipated...? Incidentally, another blunder by the defense? Getting rid of a softer Judge...because even though HHJP is fair..he is not soft...Score on you...another blunder by the defense and those who seem to believe beyond logic that well HELLO KC is guilty...but well that is too bad for the fair "hearted"

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    Please keep this simple distinction in mind and this thread should remain open:

    Discussing defense mistakes = OK

    Bashing members of the defense team = not OK

    TIA.


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    ITA! The defense has done more to discredit their individual selves than I could ever. And nope, by being nice to them, I doubt they will post here. And even if they did, they would be destroyed by virtue of the fact that they have been dishonest from the get go. And I highly doubt a website that values truth as much as this one would worry overmuch about the insane ramblings of a dishonest defense team run amok...

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    Fighting against the gag order, bringing Todd Macaluso (a confirmed thief) on board, all of his activities trying to make this the next OJ trial.
    Justice for GEORGE!

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    ITA fighting against the gag order...floating a SODDI defense when that would clearly mean Caylee was murdered...blaming the prosecution for the SunShine law when they fought against both the gag order and a speedy trial...

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    I think every motion is a blunder. They're not well written, a fifth grader could do better, and they are just an insult to everyone's intelligence, especially HHJP and the SA. Baez acts like a big man on campus yet can't get a motion right to save his life. And grammar errors...I could make big bucks proofreading his dang motions as I have a Master's in English and an eye for grammar. Not only are his motions bad because of the language as he seems to focus on grandstanding and insults more than putting together an intelligently written motion, but he's embarrassing himself with bad grammar as well. He so needs to go back to Law School and learn how to write a proper motion - after Casey's case, of course.

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    Oh yes and changing tactics/lying about believing the Zanny story - switching from Zanny, to Caylee is alive/kidnapped, to the Grunds, to LE trying to frame her, to the media being at fault, to Mr. Kronk, to a TES conspiracy of some sort, to TES members...and I suspect one of the Anthony family or Dominic Casey will be in the line up for soddi defense.
    Justice for GEORGE!

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