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    Quote Originally Posted by redkatrampant View Post
    Does anyone else think it would help to understand the Law Enforcement systems and Hierarchies in Canada? And there is some differences in terminology too. IE : detachment would that be equal to a precinct??
    Each province or region is a "Division" and each Division has "Detachments," which could be considered like "outposts." These are local RCMP offices, with officers assigned. The terminology comes from the RCMP's military organizational history. BC is E Division.

    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/about-ausujet/organi-eng.htm

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    Common Canadian legal terms, court hierarchy, media law

    The link above might help, I also want to learn more about how Canadian law differs from American when it comes to court ordered media bans on info concerning criminal proceedings. Can anyone bring us up to speed on this?

    more on Canadian publication bans

    An example is the Pickton serial murders case, there was a publication ban on testimony from the prelim inquiry in 2003 til 2010.

    I figure learning about this will help us understand some of the background of what we read and investigate.

    Thank you everyone involved in setting up this forum, I'd heard of these cases but having all the info in one place will bring much more attention and compassionate hearts and minds.
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    To further help us understand what we are looking at I'll add in info on reports on assaults and murders of native women in USA, over the border:

    Amnesty International
    "Maze of Injustice: The Failure to Protect Indigenous Women from Sexual Violence in the USA"

    NPR 2 part series, 1st Rape Cases On Indian Lands Go Uninvestigated

    My idea being that this adds to our overall view of the experience of native, aboriginal, marginalized and other women in general in North America.

    My guess is that the Highway of Tears in Canada is caused by more than one person. Might be some serial murderers in the mix plus others taking advantage of the situation.

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    What about Ridgeway? Just a thought.

    I mean given what I just read about the terrain, the lack of dense population and the number of hitchikers, that place is a hunting ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    What about Ridgeway? Just a thought.

    I mean given what I just read about the terrain, the lack of dense population and the number of hitchikers, that place is a hunting ground.
    I know that the LE that handled some of the Highway killings have been in consultation with the LE who captured Ridgeway.

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    When we drove our motorhome to Alaska a few years back, there were billboards in the area about this. It is a very, very remote area. Can't say that enough. I wouldn't for one moment say this is right across the border. This was way north in the middle of nowhere.

    One other thing; lots and lots of truckers that mostly drive at night (probably to avoid the slow moving motorhomes that drive during the day.)

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    would it be possible the killer is a trucker who normally has driven that same route hwy 16 for years?

    also, would it be possible for a group of good truckers to get together to look out for these girls or anything unusual up there along hwy 16?

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    Great idea chemcopout! I wonder if they've tried to get the truckers as their allies on this one? Have them help police their own highway so to speak.
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    Highway 16:

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    In one of the articles, I recall reading a cop in charge of some of the investigations said it is a popular theory that it is a trucker, but that the roads are such that it would not have been easy for a large truck to pull over discretely without leaving tracks or being noticed, etc.


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    Thanks Whyaduck for that info.

    I'm wondering if the time span of these murders is short enough to where one person could have committed all them? SK's like that have allot of crimes with rape/abduction/murder that lead up to the first SK crimes attributable to them. We don't always learn of their first crimes. That means one would have to add the years of 'becoming' a SK, right? xox

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandi View Post
    Thanks Whyaduck for that info.

    I'm wondering if the time span of these murders is short enough to where one person could have committed all them? SK's like that have allot of crimes with rape/abduction/murder that lead up to the first SK crimes attributable to them. We don't always learn of their first crimes. That means one would have to add the years of 'becoming' a SK, right? xox
    The earliest murder on the E-Pana list was in the 1960s, so that one could be connected to the ones in the 1970s, I think. The cluster of killings in the 1990s certainly could all be one person.

    However, I don't believe that one killer is responsible for all of the killings and disappearances. It's more likely to be a series of individual murders combined with a couple SKs or multiple murderers.

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    I live in a community very close to Highway 16- in fact one of the girls that is occasionally included on the E-Pana list was from my town- Quesnel.

    There hasn't been alot of publicity about this case(s) here, which I find surprising. But unfortunately I have come to conclusion after a great deal of reading that it's in great part due to most of the victims being First Nations. I read a terrific study by a First Nations woman, that concluded that to be merely born First Nations and female in Canada automatically puts you in the High Risk category. How frightening is that?

    I definitely think there is more than one killer involved in this situation- I would think over such a long stretch of time, there would have to be.

    I'm wondering if they are including the women who disappeared in Prince George over the summer on the E-Pana list? Does anyone know? Cynthia Maas who disappeared and whose body was later found and Natasha Lynn Montgomery who is from Quesnel, but disappeared in Prince George- she hasn't been found as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtgirl68 View Post
    I live in a community very close to Highway 16- in fact one of the girls that is occasionally included on the E-Pana list was from my town- Quesnel.

    There hasn't been alot of publicity about this case(s) here, which I find surprising. But unfortunately I have come to conclusion after a great deal of reading that it's in great part due to most of the victims being First Nations. I read a terrific study by a First Nations woman, that concluded that to be merely born First Nations and female in Canada automatically puts you in the High Risk category. How frightening is that?

    I definitely think there is more than one killer involved in this situation- I would think over such a long stretch of time, there would have to be.

    I'm wondering if they are including the women who disappeared in Prince George over the summer on the E-Pana list? Does anyone know? Cynthia Maas who disappeared and whose body was later found and Natasha Lynn Montgomery who is from Quesnel, but disappeared in Prince George- she hasn't been found as of yet.
    Hi celtgirl! You are a most welcome addition to the forum, living close to the locations of these cases.

    As far as I know, Ms Maas is "unofficially" added to the list by the media, but neither woman has been officially added to the RCMP list, since the list has not been updated since they went missing. Both do fit the criteria well enough to be discussed in this forum, however, but are not part of the E-Pana investigation at this point, as far as I know.

    Again, welcome!

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    Thanks for the welcome.

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