View Poll Results: Should these boys be charged with molestation?
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Absolutely. No girl would do this without being coerced in some way.
Depends on the age/mental ability of the girl.
No. It was a consensual act.
No. The girl should be charged for performing the act.
02-19-2011, 11:16 AM #1
GA - 13yo Charged with Molestation after Consensual Act
Aside from my horror at 13yos engaging in oral sex (I know, I know, but I don't WANT TO know! Ya know?), I'm a little concerned about this boy being charged with molestation.
This article doesn't say how old the girl is. Unless she's 11 or younger (~shudder~) I'm not sure why the boys are the only guilty ones. There have been no accusations of her being forced.
What do you think? You can add write in votes.
The four admitted to going behind a vacant house where a girl preformed consensual oral sex on them. According to the arrest warrant, obtained by Channel 2’s Tony Thomas, the arresting officer discovered the group when the girl was “adjusting her clothing.”
"Who is the victim?” asked Yolanda’s mother.
02-19-2011, 11:22 AM #2
From the same link.
Yolanda said it was hours before she found out where her son was, and that was because she filed a missing persons report. She said the next time she saw him, he was in adult court. A judge set a $10,000 bond and the teen was sent to the regional youth detention center until the family came up with the money.
02-19-2011, 11:29 AM #3
Is there any other information out there ? I cant really form an opinion on this because the lack of info.... I'll see if I can find other articles.
When I was in Middle School and even elementary school there where girls that were ....well let's say already into this. One girl I knew in 5th grade would pull the boys behind a bush and makeout with them The boys came out with their hair all a mess with a deer in the headlight look.What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
Ralph Waldo Emerson ~
02-19-2011, 11:33 AM #4
Without knowing the "victim"s age it is hard to know where to land on this one. If she was the same age as the boys and if the article is correct in that she seems to have been a willing participant, just as much as the boys - then I don't get where these charges stem from. At the very least she should be charged as well?
I am not advocating charging her you understand, simply pointing out that if she was a willing participant and was the same age as the boys, I am not sure what makes them the villians and her the victim. If anything, why not charge her and NOT the boys, afterall, they were the ones who had a sex act being performed upon them by her?
Very confusing, and very scary. My 10 yr old DD has just discovered boys.
ETA Okay, I have voted No. It was a consensual act. (with the caveat that she is the same age as the boys) If she is not - then my answer would change depending on her age, mental capacity, etc.)
Last edited by tlcya; 02-19-2011 at 12:03 PM.
02-19-2011, 12:05 PM #5
Her mental IQ might have something to do with it as well. Maybe she's mentally challenged and the boys convinced her to do it.YellowDog
These are my opinions only and should not be misconstrued as factual.
02-19-2011, 12:23 PM #6
Agreed Yellow, as posted, for me, her mental capacity would indeed change my opinion on the matter. Simply based off what little we do know, these charges seem out of line to me.
02-19-2011, 01:05 PM #7
I think age could be a big factor here - as much as a year or two could be enough for there to be coercion. I'm afraid not enough info here to make a decision, yet.
If they are all the same age, charging any of them with a crime makes no sense unless it can be used to get counseling all around. Making these children into criminals and/or RSO's is just going to cause more harm.
02-20-2011, 12:49 AM #8There is no original thought....
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There were 2 girls in my 7th grade class that had babies.... Both Dads were a couple years older, but still young kids IMO. BTW, They both are doing well for themselves now
And , ahem I was "active" right after I turned 13... It was "normal" in the area I grew up in.....
SO as long as this girl was similar age, and mentally sound, I see no reason for charges
02-20-2011, 07:50 AM #9
I lived in New England during in Grades 4-6 (and the start of 7). In 4th grade there were two "couples," and perhaps some kissing, but no more. One couple tried to keep it quiet because we were just at the end of the "boys have cooties/girls are yucky" stage and they didn't want to be teased for liking each other.
In 5th grade, about half the kids had boyfriends and girlfriends, and by 6th grade, there were definitely couples who were sexually active. It wasn't a big secret (amongst classmates), and was not considered to be a really big deal. Boys broke up with girls who put them off too long.
In 7th grade, we moved "South". I realized the expectations were different when I overheard a conversation between two of the more popular girls at school about a date one had been on. Her friend half-teasingly called her a "slut" when she found out her friend had let the boy kiss her goodnight on a first date.
I was suddenly REALLY glad that I had been skinny and small (with buck teeth to boot) and had not had a boyfriend sooner, as I have no doubt that I'd have done whatever everyone else was doing, not to "be cool" but because you accept what is going on around you as the way things are "supposed to be."
When my daughter was small, I once glanced out my front window and saw three neighborhood children on the lawn across the street. Two boys and a girl, all about 6-7 years old. The girl appeared to be fully clothed, but one of the boys dropped his pants and lay on top of her, simulating intercourse. I was debating what to do/say, and feeling I had to do SOMETHING, because they were on the lawn of a very sweet, older, Catholic couple, and in view of my living room window, where my daughter played.
Suddenly, his father drove by. He stopped his car, yelled at his son to get his clothes on and get home, and then drove away, as his child was buckling his belt. The kid DIDN'T go home, and as soon as he was out of sight, they were back at it. This time the OTHER boy had his pants down when I walked outside and overheard one of the boys instructing the other as to "how to do it." I told them to COOL IT, and to get on their bikes and go their separate ways, or I'd get their mothers involved.
They got on their bikes, but a couple of minutes later, noticed the bikes in a pile two houses up. I'd told them to split up, when I probably should have told their parents, so I figured I should go see what they were up to. I walked up my side of the street to where a neighbor couple was working on their car together, and looked across the street. Between the houses, I saw the kids. This time, the girl was performing oral sex on one of the two boys.
I was surprised the couple who was in full view the whole time didn't seem to think anything was wrong, and I was too embarrassed to directly confront the kids at this point, so I went to the home of the girl. A teenaged girl came to the door and said "Tina's" mom was not home, that she was a cousin and was babysitting. I just pointed to the bikes, and told her she needed to get up there right away because "Tina needs you." I went home, and watched the teen bringing the younger girl home. Later on, the other moms got involved too and were appropriately upset.
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My posts are strictly MY opinion under circumstances when many points of view need to be considered. I apologize in advance to anyone whose potential involvement is contemplated in error, or who may be offended because I do not see eye to eye with them on all matters related to this case. I hope our differences can be set aside as we unite in the search for this victim or the perpetrator of this crime. Your opinions and insights are just as valuable as mine.
02-20-2011, 11:11 AM #10
When my DD was 6 she came home from a rare weekend at her dad's with a similar story. His roommate's almost 9 yr old son had showed her a really fun new "game" - while DD was not hurt I was appalled by the amount of carnal knowledge this boy shared and called CPS. The caseworker called me back a few weeks later to let me know the child was receiving "appropriate" services. Nothing was done regarding my DD because they were within 3 years (barely) of each others age.
Something is very wrong when children this young (6,7,8...) know how to simulate or engage in sex.
02-20-2011, 09:37 PM #11
In an oversexualized culture, what can we expect from our kids? TV, media, and in some cases, parents, teach them that sex is a commodity. We teach them, oftentimes unintentionally, that it feels good, and it expresses love. Girls are taught that they can get what they want through sex, and boys are taught that it's manly. And all of a sudden we are shocked that they are actually having sex, be it intercourse, oral, anal, whatever.
Which brings us to another problem...what to do here? As far as I'm concerned there was no crime, but if it isn't treated as such, having gone this far, it's almost like even the legal authority is saying that it's okay. And if they do prosecute this boy to the fullest extent, then his life is going to be destroyed.
I would say that if the legal system really wants to make an example of this boy, then they should have to make examples of all the parties involved, including the girl, the parents of both parties, and give the kids some kind of community service or counseling, while at the same time keeping them out of the adult correctional facilities and off of adult registries. But I truly feel the whole thing should be dropped immediately and left to the families to resolve, possibly with supervision from another agency. All JMO.JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.
02-22-2011, 10:30 AM #12
At 13, she doesn't have the maturity to consent to any sexual act.
Article doesn't say how old the girl is...if she too was 13, she cannot make that decision...and if the boys were arrested, they needed to be...JMHO
I didn't vote since I didn't have an option for it.
At 13, no way can she make a mature decision...JMHO
moms comments are the reason WHY we have such a depraved society..
The child’s mother said her son was just doing what children do.
"They are children. Children explore the world by hands-on," she said.
The 13-year-old has entered a plea in juvenile court to sodomy and public indecency. He will have to undergo counseling and serve one year of probation.
Last edited by LiveLaughLuv; 02-22-2011 at 10:36 AM. Reason: eta mothers response
02-22-2011, 10:38 AM #13
02-22-2011, 08:49 PM #14
I'm confused by the whole thing.
Back when I was 13 there was a neighborhood girl that pretty much every boy in my neighborhood lost his virginity to and she didn't really care who watched, jumped in, or talked about her. She was more than willing and she was the same age as those boys. I think every neighborhood/school has atleast one fo those girls. If that's the case, than my answer would be no, the boy shouldn't be arrested.
If the boys forced or cohersed her than yes, it was a crime.
I can't vote until I have more information
02-22-2011, 10:20 PM #15
MOO neither is mature enough to be making these decisions. But make this decision the did.
While I do not like that many 13 year olds are sexually active, it is the reality that we live in. We should be working on fixing that. Not penalizing the male half of the teen population while allowing the female half of it to be unaccountable for their own actions.
ETA I do agree that the mother's comments are indicitive of exactly what has gotten us here.
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