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    I prefer exact quotes, rather than a reporter paraphrasing what was said. IMO, it provides clearer information, and less wiggle room for whomever to deny what was said, or for that person to rebut later & say "That's not what I meant" or "My statement was taken out of context" etc.

    Also, it helps prevent a certain amount of speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathrynL View Post
    IIRC, they wouldn't release the results of the cell phone warrants. Notice the Reporter article about the images mentions that they did receive those records, but they chose not release what was in them.

    I'm old too, but I think I'm remembering this part right.
    I would rather have the pings. That seems like something that would actualy help find Hailey. Hopefuly the other media outlets do decided to release those because if SA is guilty than those pings are the most important clue we know of in terms of locating Hailey.

    Plus Who did he call?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    I would rather have the pings. That seems like something that would actualy help find Hailey. Hopefuly the other media outlets do decided to release those because if SA is guilty than those pings are the most important clue we know of in terms of locating Hailey.

    Plus Who did he call?
    I hate to open up the ping debate, but I do have a question. Does the phone just ping if there is a call being made or does it ping all the time? tia


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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmaj View Post
    Yes the child porn was found also.
    which is not something you just stumble onto on the internet... I might add



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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    Thank you. Did they say why the weren't going to release them? tia
    Here's the article re: the cell phone information:

    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=343746

    Though search warrant affidavits revealed a timeline of calls made by key players in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, we likely won't know anytime soon to whom the calls in question were made.

    The City of Colorado City has denied a request made under the Freedom of Information Act to release those cell phone records.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mgardner View Post
    Big Country updated their article again --

    Michell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs has been quoted as saying the some of the images included child pornography and bestiality. KTAB reporter Tiffany Tatro is working to confirm that.

    I don't quite get that. If an article quotes a Sheriff, why does the reporter have to confirm it? Are they insinuating that the Sheriff really didn't say it?

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    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=346446
    it is because KTAB is behind the 8 ball... the abilene reporter news had the info first/filed the FOIA and got the quotes from LE...

    now KTAB finally got the same documents and has not talked with LE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgardner View Post
    Here's the article re: the cell phone information:

    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=343746

    Though search warrant affidavits revealed a timeline of calls made by key players in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, we likely won't know anytime soon to whom the calls in question were made.

    The City of Colorado City has denied a request made under the Freedom of Information Act to release those cell phone records.
    Wow!! But, they chose to release the results of the electronic equipment. That could stir up speculation I think. Maybe they didn't find anything or maybe they found a lot and are still investigating it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    Thank you. Did they say why the weren't going to release them? tia
    I think it was on the grounds of pertaining to an active investigation..they must want to keep that evidence to themselves at this point. Guess they don't care inquiring minds are dying to know.


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    There was just a big expose on this in my state. There were several caught with the child porn and for selling child porn. From what they said on this program, it is like a society where you have to join and then once trusted the pics get sold to you. So I agree it isn' t like clicking on porn. You have to go through groups who hold this stuff.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    I hate to open up the ping debate, but I do have a question. Does the phone just ping if there is a call being made or does it ping all the time? tia
    I think they ping all the time off of the nearest tower.


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    grandmaj: Jackalope, lol... I got your very good point, promise. That just made me smile...
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    Regarding the child porn, not speculating who was in the pictures ... but is this something you would buy on the internet, not just download for free?

    TIA


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    It has never crossed my mind that the images had BD, SA, HD, or the family pet in them. I think it is stuff someone downloaded/viewed online.

    It's interesting that Texas does not seem to have a law against bestiality (http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuszoophilia.htm)(bbm), defined as follows:

    Zoophilia is broadly defined as the affinity or sexual attraction by a human to a non-human animal. See Wikipedia, Zoophilia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia (describing the emotional and sexual attraction of humans to animals) (as of June 24, 2008, 15:48 GMT). More recently, the term “zoosexuality” has been used to more accurately reflect the full spectrum of a “human/animal orientation.” Id. The term “bestiality” is often used interchangeably with “zoophilia,” though some suggest that this is inaccurate. Id. In the legal system, the term bestiality is most often used to describe human-animal sexual activity without specifying the requisite sexual act. This is in addition to use of the term “sodomy,” which not only covers sexual acts with animals but also certain human sexual acts. (For more on the history and psychology of zoophilia, please see the above Wikipedia link).

    Again, the MSM link about the bestiality found (bbm):

    Michell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs has been quoted as saying the some of the images included child pornography and bestiality. KTAB reporter Tiffany Tatro is working to confirm that.

    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=346446
    ETA: According to the link about the laws above, bestiality is governed by state laws, not federal laws. Anyone else have more info about Texas law? I assumed it would be outlawed in all 50 states but only 30 supposedly have laws against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    What was it a few days ago that LE would not release that some news agency had asked for. Seems funny they release this now. Sorry, I am old and my memory is bad.
    If I recall correctly, which is a big if at this point in my brain, it had to do with the cell phones and what was gleened from them. I think it was requested by MSM under the FOIA but was denied.

    JMO, but I get the feeling that the above (cell phone msgs., etc) is the next bomb that's going to explode. Wanna take bets on who really sent that text msg to MB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    So WHY didn't she just let Hailey move out when she wanted to? I just DO NOT GET IT.
    Control? If Hailey discovered some of this stuff or knew things about BD/SA that could be damaging to them--easier to control what she says and to whom when she's under their roof/thumbs?
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