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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    I'm pretty sure we heard something about it and I'm trying to remember exactly where. It might have been during the depo where Brad was saying that Nancy complained at the party about a stain on her dress. This is not the first it's been mentioned, but it's been so long that I'm having trouble remembering the context. This is the first time, however, that we are hearing that NO ONE else at the party noticed any stain on her dress.
    What was most interesting to me about that, in addition to what you point out is the speaker indicated the dress could not be found when requested for use by the canine but Brad produced it the next day. Where was it since it wasn't in the house ?
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    For #1, isn't it possible she had more than 1 pair of running shoes? I certainly do.
    Of course it's possible. But notice the wording they used and it was quite specific. NO shoes of hers, including running shoes, were missing from that shelf. That shelf in the garage is where she kept her (running) shoes. That should tell you something right there. And her running partner--the one she was training with at the time of her disappearance, said those blue Sauconys were the ones she was using. Those running shes were the same ones she had with her just a few days before her death, when she was on vacation with her family.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    I'm quite surprised they didn't mention her necklace during opening statements. This is huge, IMHO. Nancy was known to never take off that necklace...ever. And it was found in a desk (possibly Brad's desk) inside the residence. It was something she would have worn at the party the night before and probably seen/noticed at least by a few women there (we women notice such things). That they didn't even bring it up has me wondering why.

    They sure didn't cover much in their opening...it was much more brief than I expected it would be. All of 30 or 40 min.
    Because I doubt very seriously that she never took it off. Of course, it would be easy to disprove. All they would have to do is find 1 single picture where she isn't wearing it. Honestly, what woman wears jewelry while jogging, swimming, or other activities like that?


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    the speaker indicated the dress could not be found when requested for use by the canine but Brad produced it the next day. Where was it since it wasn't in the house
    Good catch there, RC. Unless it was sitting in the washing machine or dryer at the time, but he didn't tell anyone that? Remember he was doing lots of laundry. It couldn't have been too far as he was able to produce it. BTW, unless that dress is a simple cotton one, it seems odd that it would be machine washed.


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    Honestly, what woman wears jewelry while jogging, swimming, or other activities like that?
    I do, and many women do.

    I have a gold bracelet I got for my Bday and I have not taken it off from the moment it was put around my wrist, in Dec. That includes showering, exercising, sleeping, etc.


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    Brad's biggest mistake was thinking he could outsmart everyone and run his mouth.
    That 8 hour sworn video deposition will be edited to show his many inconsistencies vs what he told the cops.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ncsu95 View Post
    For #1, isn't it possible she had more than 1 pair of running shoes? I certainly do.
    #2 - yes odd.
    #3 - I don't necessarily believe (although I don't not believe it) that it is counter to the norm. As we discussed way back when...this will be based on Nancy's words to friends. I'm sure my wife would say I don't do nearly as much as I actually do around the house. And she isn't mad at me or divorcing me.
    In fact, when I am in the doghouse, I frequently go overboard on the chores while my wife is out of the house to make amends.

    I agree #2 is odd.

    #1 I'm not convinced she didn't have multiple pairs of the same running shoes. Many people do.


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    Yep plus his behavior was odd too. He didn't cooperate, he was doing activities that were known by many to be quite different than his normal sloth-like-at-home self (there was testimony during the custody hearing about this), he didn't attend any memorial service, he never spoke to her family, he didn't even tell his own daughters that their mommy was dead--he left that up to the inlaws. And this was before the kids were taken from him, btw. None of that automatically = murder, but you have to realize how it would look to the people who knew both of them and of course her family as well. They noticed because it was ODD behavior.


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    #1 I'm not convinced she didn't have multiple pairs of the same running shoes. Many people do.
    I assume there will be testimony to address this. And if she did have multiple pairs, someone would know about it. In fact, I think Brad might have been asked this during the depo. I'm trying to remember it, but I think he himself said she had just the one blue pair...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    I do, and many women do.

    I have a gold bracelet I got for my Bday and I have not taken it off from the moment it was put around my wrist, in Dec. That includes showering, exercising, sleeping, etc.
    I stand corrected. But as I said...1 single picture with her not wearing it disproves it.


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    1 single picture with her not wearing it disproves it.
    Yes it would. I will be very surprised if the defense produces such a picture, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    I assume there will be testimony to address this. And if she did have multiple pairs, someone would know about it. In fact, I think Brad might have been asked this during the depo. I'm trying to remember it, but I think he himself said she had just the one blue pair...
    I would hope he wasn't dumb enough to say that knowing the pair was still in the house. I'm just glad this is finally underway. I'm way to freaking busy at work for this, but I can't help it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles View Post
    Brad was asked about laundering the dress in the depositions. I'll have to listen again for specifics about the stain, if any.
    During the depositions, Brad said he and DD were not able to determine what dress Nancy wore. He remembered Nancy complaining that she had spilled wine on the dress when Brad arrived at the party and Nancy had tried to get it out. Brad noticed the dress was damp where she tried to clean it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ncsu95 View Post
    I stand corrected. But as I said...1 single picture with her not wearing it disproves it.
    If there were such a photo, Kurtz would have plastered it everywhere for all to see. He wasted no time posting the HT video on his firm's webpage and he would have done the same with such a photo that refuted that compelling state evidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the Fax View Post
    If there were such a photo, Kurtz would have plastered it everywhere for all to see. He wasted no time posting the HT video on his firm's webpage and he would have done the same with such a photo that refuted that compelling state evidence.
    Actually, they posted that to dispel the rumors that he bought cleaning agents at 4 in the morning. Not to refute any evidence.

    ETA: And, I guess, technically, he did buy a cleaning agent (laundry detergent), but it wasn't household cleaning products such as bleach as was initially reported here by somebody with a family member that worked at that store.


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