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    No. I think it means that since they found "bones" (they never said "skeletal remains" or "body") which they couldn't identify as human immediately anyway....... There is no skull.

    If there was a skull, they would have announced it a human remains, skeletal remains, body... etc. And if there was a skull, we'd know sooner.

    I am not sure yet why there is no skull, but waiting for more info. Today, it's raining here. They're searching anyway, so it has nothing to do with nice weather- now they're hot on finding this skull - or other bodies.

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    Today DNA testing takes Hours a Couple Days, depends where the Lab is. I would think LE has Samples from known missing people's Family.
    If that part of the Strip is like I remember everything looks the same for Miles. It would be very easy to forget or be confused one spot to the next. Knowing one stretch more then another is interesting.

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    it's probably unlit there at night...pull the car over...carry body down by the moonlight ...
    take off....

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    Quote Originally Posted by minazoe View Post
    it's probably unlit there at night...pull the car over...carry body down by the moonlight ...
    take off....
    Hmmm....

    You got me thinking minazoe. I wonder what the moon phases were when these ladies went missing?
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    I just realized I made a mistake in my previous post. I said the search resumes today but it doesn't. It resumes Monday. ooops! Sorry for making such a bold statement

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    On JVM last night they were blaming this on the craigslist killer. Anyone else here of this?
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    I found a really cool site for moon phases and it is interesting that all of these ladies were last seen when the moon was 'waning'. A waning moon means it is getting smaller in the sky as it heads toward a New moon. A waxing moon is when the moon is growing larger towards a full moon. Hope this makes sense.

    Anyway, I was interested in finding out because, for me, if I were going to dump a body, I would do it on a new moon or a dark cloudy night. Here is what I learned...

    Maureen Barnes.....last seen Monday, 7-9-07....moon phase was Waning Crescent on this date. The New Moon was the following Saturday 7-14-07.

    Melissa Barthelemy.....Last seen, Sunday, 7-12-09.....moon was waning 3/4 moon when she was last seen.
    7-16-07 call to family. Waning 1/4 moon
    7-19-07 call to family. Waning crescent moon
    7-22-07 NEW MOON
    7-23-07 call to family WAXING Crescent moon

    Megan Waterman.......last seen, Sunday, 6-6-10. Moon phase, Waning 1/4 moon. The new moon was the following Saturday 6-12-10

    Amber Costello......last seen, Tuesday, 9-7-10. Moon Waning sliver of a crescent. The New Moon was the following night, Wednesday, 9-8-10.

    Here's a link to the site.

    http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_p...calendar.phtml


    Aside from the fact that all these ladies were last seen when the moon was growing less visible in the night sky, I was struck by the days they were last seen being early in the week.....Megan and Melissa last seen on a Sunday, Maureen last seen on a Monday, and Amber last seen on a Tuesday. Could this be a clue?

    Sunday, Monday and Tuesday seems odd for someone who is gainfully employeed to be looking for extra curricular activities of this type but what do I know. Perhaps Mia or another of our sleuths with experience in the escort business can weigh in here.

    I'll now go back and look at Shannon's last seen date and post those moon phases. Sorry, I didn't mean to leave her out.

    BBL (be back later)

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    ETA Shannon Gilbert.......last seen, Saturday, May 1, 2010, Moon, FULL. New Moon almost 2 weeks later on Friday, 5-14-2010
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    I thought it might be helpful with the newest news to bring this post from Shutterfly over. Shutterfly has a nack for being able to add depth to a case with her photos and post.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5904171&postcount=101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybass0711 View Post
    On JVM last night they were blaming this on the craigslist killer. Anyone else here of this?
    I didn't Ladybass! I think the CK was already caught and in jail by the time Shannon, Megan and Amber were last seen, IIRC. Maybe JVM thinks there is another CLK since all these girls advertised their services on CL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    I thought it might be helpful with the newest news to bring this post from Shutterfly over. Shutterfly has a nack for being able to add depth to a case with her photos and post.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5904171&postcount=101
    Thanks Soulmagnet and Shutterfly. One thing stands out to me here. It appears that the bodies were dumped in an area between two crossovers thru the median and the dump site is separated by what appears a good size median in the hwy. It appears that it would be difficult for any oncoming traffic to see anything on the other side of the hwy. LI residents who are familiar with the area, is this correct?

    No wonder this was the chosen dump site.....secluded area, not visible from the other side of the hwy, and turnarounds in the median above and below (IS that N & S?) the dump site for quick getaway.

    I can't thank you enough for sharing this. I like to have a visual since I am not familiar with the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGHTEOUS1 View Post
    Today DNA testing takes Hours a Couple Days, depends where the Lab is. I would think LE has Samples from known missing people's Family.
    If that part of the Strip is like I remember everything looks the same for Miles. It would be very easy to forget or be confused one spot to the next. Knowing one stretch more then another is interesting.
    It also depends on how many jobs are in the queue ahead of you. These days most independent labs are running a backlog of several weeks, and some states (MA for one) are backed up for months. Usually testing that needs to be done in order to meet a court date takes priority over unidentified remains and missing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    I didn't Ladybass! I think the CK was already caught and in jail by the time Shannon, Megan and Amber were last seen, IIRC. Maybe JVM thinks there is another CLK since all these girls advertised their services on CL.

    wm
    I thought there were two different people referred to this way -- one is the guy in Boston who murdered the woman he met and later killed himself, and the other is or more accurately may be associated with a number of murders across the country.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be several "Craigslist killers," not that they have anything to do with each other but because it's such an easy preselected pool of victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    I thought there were two different people referred to this way -- one is the guy in Boston who murdered the woman he met and later killed himself, and the other is or more accurately may be associated with a number of murders across the country.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be several "Craigslist killers," not that they have anything to do with each other but because it's such an easy preselected pool of victims.
    I agree carbuff. CL is a virtual Safari for killers!!! There's no telling how many CL killers there are. If I were investigating a murder case these days, CL would be one of the first places I would check in doing computer forensics.

    Did you see the new thread here where a man held a woman hostage who advertised for a place to live on CL? He repeatedly raped her and held her against her will for 3 days before dumping her at the airport.

    Geesh! There are some sickos in this world and they live among us. SKeery!

    wm
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    Yes, I saw that item. Creepy. Though I don't suppose that guy is any different than similar guys who used to do the same through newspaper want ads. Same old scam, different locale. The kidnapping part is scary, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    I thought there were two different people referred to this way -- one is the guy in Boston who murdered the woman he met and later killed himself, and the other is or more accurately may be associated with a number of murders across the country.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be several "Craigslist killers," not that they have anything to do with each other but because it's such an easy preselected pool of victims.
    I remember when the first four was found they had already nap him "Craigslist Killer" I think if they going to give this monster a name like "Craiglist Killer" maybe we should number them #1 #2 etc

    I don't feel that #1 had anything to do with "Long Island" different timeline, different MO. IMO

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