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    FL - Tampa, WhtMale 634UMFL, 50-70, known as 'Lloyd', Aug'88

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 634UMFL

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/634umfl.html


    Reconstruction of Victim by Wesley Neville

    Unidentified White Male

    * The victim was discovered on August 27, 1988 in Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 50 - 70 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 6'0"; 136 lbs
    * Clothing: Black belt, blue/white shirt, black shoes, white socks, blue trousers.
    * DNA: Available
    * Dentals: No x-rays available

    Case History
    The victim was located in an alley behind 703 W. Bay Street in Tampa, Florida on August 27, 1988.
    AKA "Lloyd"; known street person.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-13-2013 at 07:28 PM. Reason: added link

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    This guy looks spot on like John Davis Keefer, who was just added to DoeNet today.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1395dmtx.html



    However, his height and age are a little off, and his name is not "Lloyd".

    Also, the UID was a known street person, but for how long was he known?

    I'd say probably not the same guy, but I am putting it up anyway because the resemblance is so striking.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 05:33 PM.

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    http://doenetwork.org/cases/729dmca.html
    I'd say this is probably a no but his name is Lloyd, his height is an exact match and his age is in the range. The timing is ten years off but it would have given him time to become "a known street person".

    The location is on the other side of the country and supposedly something about his circumstance suggests foul play locally.

    The resemblance does not strike me as "wow, that's the same man for sure" and he would have to have lost 70 pounds while missing. That's quite possible while living on the street I guess and it could account for some facial differences but if the reconstruction (large version here http://www.hillsboroughcounty.org/index.aspx?NID=360) is accurate Lloyd the street person seems to have had blue eyes and Lloyd Farrar was brown-eyed. Not sure how much artistic licence there is in the reconstruction.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-10-2012 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy looks spot on like John Davis Keefer, who was just added to DoeNet today.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1395dmtx.html



    However, his height and age are a little off, and his name is not "Lloyd".

    Also, the UID was a known street person, but for how long was he known?

    I'd say probably not the same guy, but I am putting it up anyway because the resemblance is so striking.
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    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/196
    Namus link for the UID.

    Says he's pending exhumation and DNA isn't available, yet Doe Network says there is DNA. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy looks spot on like John Davis Keefer, who was just added to DoeNet today.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1395dmtx.html



    However, his height and age are a little off, and his name is not "Lloyd".

    Also, the UID was a known street person, but for how long was he known?

    I'd say probably not the same guy, but I am putting it up anyway because the resemblance is so striking.
    Definitely worth submitting, I'd say. Lloyd might well be a nickname or a name he picked at random after he left home, and while the stats are a little off, the height is still in range and 50-70 is awfully broad.
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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...i_anthony.html

    Circumstances match up, looks similar. There is a discrepancy between doe listed height and FLUIDB (5'6") so that makes it difficult...
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    5'9" to 6' wouldn't be much of a stretch, but 5'6" would be. I'm wondering about Anthony's tattoo -- but the UID's entry is so sparse, they might just not have bothered to mention it.
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    He sounds like someone who could become a known street person but he's a little young if the age range 50-70 is correct.

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    He does sound like someone we should keep an eye out for in our homeless UIDs, doesn't he?
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    Ruleouts as of 15 March 2015 per Namus https://identifyus.org/en/cases/196

    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

    Howard Gratteau 1947 Florida
    John O'Connor 1944 Florida
    Kenneth Schweighart 1935 New Jersey
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    Did anything ever come of this? I was looking at John Davis Keefer's case and wow! That resemblance is very striking.

    I have submitted a potential match to DoeNet for John Keefer and Case File 634UMFL.
    Last edited by ralynn; 07-20-2016 at 04:22 PM.

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    Glad to see John Keefer submitted -- I wonder if we should submit Lloyd Farrar to be on the safe side?



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