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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylynnCouture View Post
    Either that or he thinks they won't be able to recover his text messages, calls, etc. if it's disconnected.

    Either way, him disconnecting his phone makes him look really bad.
    here's a dumb question. If LE was able to get provider to turn her service back on, would they be able to ping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabedetective View Post
    here's a dumb question. If LE was able to get provider to turn her service back on, would they be able to ping?
    I'm almost positive they could recover her records (call log, text messages, etc) but I don't think they could ping it. It may depend on what type of phone she had though. iPhones and other "smartphones" like that have GPS trackers and other special features that I'm sure they could access. But just a regular cell phone, I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylynnCouture View Post
    Could this be Alivia?

    Woman's Body Found in Tree



    http://www.wpxi.com/news/27368375/detail.html

    Lisa Johnson, missing from Fayette City, (close to where the body was found) has been missing for a few weeks also http://www.wpxi.com/news/27123824/detail.html

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    Here are people posting about Alivia on FB.

    http://www.gabberface.com/?s=alivia+kail

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    Huber said Kail contacted her via Facebook while she was in Florida to ask for her telephone number, saying her boyfriend would not let her bring her cell phone on the trip. Huber said she never heard from Kail.

    Read more: Missing woman's friends concerned - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_729719.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabedetective View Post
    Huber said Kail contacted her via Facebook while she was in Florida to ask for her telephone number, saying her boyfriend would not let her bring her cell phone on the trip. Huber said she never heard from Kail.

    Read more: Missing woman's friends concerned - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_729719.html
    something is seriously wrong here...and I find the LE complete silence rather odd..almost as if they are protecting the bf. Wouldn't they want to know if people saw them together after the last date seen etc?

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...3A+CBSNews.com)
    The boyfriend was approached by the family members and friends about the whereabouts of Alivia and he gave some conflicting stories as to where she was located," Allegheny County Police Lietenant Jeff Korczyk said to the station. "One story that she [was] dropped off in Mt. Washington and another that she was still down in Florida."
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    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_730042.html

    LE arrests the boyfriend Alexander Lorenzi on unrelated drug charges.

    LE impounds two vehicles.

    He still is not cooperating.
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    Boyfriend there was arrested back a few years ago for Agravated assault, criminal trespass, false imprisonment and other charges.




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    Hm.. Its looks very bad for for Alivia, AL & JL.. They also found a .22-caliber Ruger that had been reported stolen, a record of drug sales, drug packaging etc. (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11090/1136015-53.stm)

    And the more AL & JL don't cooperate the more incriminating this whole situation becomes. After reading Alivia and her friend FB posts, I know they are no angels, however no one deserves to be severed from their love ones without everyone giving as much effort in finding her. Including her BF.

    here is a bigger photo..

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...=460&width=720
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    I'm wondering if the trips to Fl. were to run/buy drugs. I also wonder if that's why he is not cooperating - if he snitches on whomever, they will kill him and/or his family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    I'm wondering if the trips to Fl. were to run/buy drugs. I also wonder if that's why he is not cooperating - if he snitches on whomever, they will kill him and/or his family.
    I thought the trips might be drug runs as well. Crossed my mind that maybe she was sold to a drug gang down there in exchange for drugs.

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    BF is being held in Allegheny County jail $250K straight bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    I'm wondering if the trips to Fl. were to run/buy drugs. I also wonder if that's why he is not cooperating - if he snitches on whomever, they will kill him and/or his family.
    That could be. It's not like the guy sold a few Blunts out of his house. Whenever I hear "packaging" I think "real bad news". Tack on a stolen firearm and I'd think the guy was up to something way big.

    Beautiful girl. Prayers going up that she is safe somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabedetective View Post
    I thought the trips might be drug runs as well. Crossed my mind that maybe she was sold to a drug gang down there in exchange for drugs.
    Or maybe she saw too much?

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    The BF has a "colorful" past. http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx
    Not sure if I posted this right, still learning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabedetective View Post
    Huber said Kail contacted her via Facebook while she was in Florida to ask for her telephone number, saying her boyfriend would not let her bring her cell phone on the trip. Huber said she never heard from Kail.

    Read more: Missing woman's friends concerned - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_729719.html
    That's weird. If you're not allowed to have your phone then why would you ask for your friend's phone number? How was she on FB?

    Ya know what? This poor girl may never have been in Florida period. Although on the "first trip" her brother got a call when the plane landed.

    Miami on a plane you're not smuggling drugs. Maybe went and picked them up and came back in another vehicle? Then you went to get more clothing to go back down?

    It's heart breaking so much time passed before they knew this pretty young girl was missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy77 View Post
    The BF has a "colorful" past. http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx
    Not sure if I posted this right, still learning!
    Hi Fuzzy. Looks like you did it correct to me.

    If you get a chance can you tell what it says as I don't open those things correct. TIA

    No doubt the false imprisonment charge was up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    That's weird. If you're not allowed to have your phone then why would you ask for your friend's phone number? How was she on FB?

    Ya know what? This poor girl may never have been in Florida period. Although on the "first trip" her brother got a call when the plane landed.

    Miami on a plane you're not smuggling drugs. Maybe went and picked them up and came back in another vehicle? Then you went to get more clothing to go back down?

    It's heart breaking so much time passed before they knew this pretty young girl was missing.
    It could be that she snuck her BF's phone. My kids have smartphones and they can get on FB and post that way. She might have wanted the friend's number just in case. She might have been getting a little nervous at that point.

    One of the articles above states that they impounded TWO cars that the BF had, so the flying there and driving back sounds plausible to me.

    I've watched that show "Locked up Abroad" a few times. It surprised me at how many young girls were willing to smuggle drugs "just one time" on planes - even to different countries and going through customs. They were just really young and naive, I guess?
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    Video with interview of her mother, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    Hi Fuzzy. Looks like you did it correct to me.

    If you get a chance can you tell what it says as I don't open those things correct. TIA

    No doubt the false imprisonment charge was up there.
    They range from assualt, harrasment, d/o conduct, burglary, recieving stolen property, false imprisionment...some were dimissed others not. The criminal charges on his record date back to 2007.

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    I Googled mapped street view of her Boyfriend's neighborhood

    Looks like a not so good part of town...
    woods at end of the street and patches of woods all over around the area a
    lot of possible hiding places if he did something.
    I will refrian from accusations am only saying street view shows woods all over in patches around the area...
    plus the water is nearby also..




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    http://www.wtae.com/r/27378966/detail.html

    PITTSBURGH -- Allegheny County police Wednesday questioned the boyfriend of a 19-year-old Mount Washington woman who has been missing since March 5.

    Alexander Lorenzi was detained on unrelated drug charges Wednesday, police said.

    Channel 4 Action News' Janelle Hall reported that police found bags of what they suspected were marijuana and cocaine, as well as packaging for distribution of the drugs and records of drug sales when they searched Lorenzi's Oregon Street apartment.

    Police said they also found a .22-caliber handgun that had been reported stolen.

    Detectives also had two cars that they said are linked to Lorenzi towed from his residence.

    Police also discovered a suitcase and clothing under a tarp in the bed of the pickup truck, but have not said who the items belong to.

    Channel 4 Action News found Lorenzi has had past run-ins with the law.

    Police said in 2008, Lorenzi forced his way into someone's home before assaulting and holding a person against their will.

    He was charged with criminal trespass, aggravated assault, burglary, unlawful restraint and false imprisonment, but those charges were later withdrawn.

    Lorenzi is being held in the Allegheny County Jail on $250,000 straight bond.

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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11090/1136015-53.stm
    He was scheduled to be arraigned this morning on charges of receiving stolen property, possession of marijuana with the intent to deliver, marijuana possession and cocaine possession. Lt. Jeffrey Korczyk called the charges "unrelated" to Ms. Kail's missing persons case.

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11090...#ixzz1IClDai5x
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