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    MI - Newport, WhtFem (UP 8501), 32-52, In Lake Erie - Red Coat & Black Pants, Feb'92

    An unidentified white female was found floating in Lake Erie on February 23, 1992. There was a NamUs profile recently created for her.

    (Not to be confused with the Lake Erie Jane Doe from 1982 - this is an entirely different woman found a decade later.)

    Case Report - NamUs UP # 8501

    Case Information
    Status: Unidentified
    Case number: 4087-92
    Date found February 23, 1992 at 11:20 PM
    Date created February 12, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    Local Medical Examiner/Coroner Contact
    Name Carl Schmidt, MD
    Agency Monroe Cnty Med Examiners Ofc
    Phone 734-240-7910
    Case Manager
    Name Sarah Krebs
    Email krebss@michigan.gov

    Demographics

    Estimated age Adult - Pre 60
    Minimum age 32 years
    Maximum age 52 years
    Race White
    Sex Female
    Weight (pounds) 140, Estimated
    Height (inches) 66, Estimated
    Body Parts Inventory (Check all that apply)
    All parts recovered
    Head not recovered
    Torso not recovered
    One or more limbs not recovered
    One or both hands not recovered
    Notes on body parts recovered
    Body condition
    Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
    Probable year of death 1991 to 1992
    Estimated postmortem interval 4 Months

    Address 1 Lake Erie
    State Michigan
    County Monroe
    Circumstances of death
    Body of a white female wearing a red coat and maroon pants was found floating in Lake Erie.
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    Her body was found on February 23, 1992, but it is possible that she had been stuck under the ice since late fall 1991.

    Source: 2/25/1992 Toledo Blade article

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ake+erie&hl=en

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    link to NamUs case file

    https://identifyus.org/cases/8501
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    From what I found these are the only missing people from the surrounding 4 states of Lake Erie that "somewhat" fit the description. Tell me what you think.

    * also the guy who shot his wife, the strongest profile match, seem according to her "find a grave site" had shell casings in her car with "B" matter present and matching blood.. just wanted to point it out.. happy sleuthing!


    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/8581/44/

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/1304/45/

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/646/88/

    Find a grave site
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=19534317
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    Thanks for the links - I will check them out when I get home. (On my mobile right now.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sls314 View Post
    Thanks for the links - I will check them out when I get home. (On my mobile right now.)

    I will say that I suspect she was a local, or at least spent time in the area. As opposed to having been randomly dumped in Monroe County. The name of the bar on the tank top she was wearing was likely a local bar - Sumpter is a township near where her body was found, and its not unreasonable to think there was a Sumpter Bar in the area at the time.

    I'll have to do some research to figure out exactly where that bar was - if she was wearing their shirt, perhaps she was a regular?
    where is the reference to a tank top worn by this UID? I didn't see it on either the Namus page or the Toledo Blade article.

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    as a general statement, without dentals, fingerprints, DNA or a composite sketch of the UID, how is anyone to find a match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    where is the reference to a tank top worn by this UID? I didn't see it on either the Namus page or the Toledo Blade article.

    Darn it - I was confused about which Monroe County profile this one was. (I have 2 UID females from that area that I've been researching - the other one was wearing the tank top. I created this thread for her: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132757"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132757[/ame] )


    Note to self - don't check Websleuths from my phone in the future, as it may lead to posting mishaps.


    I'll go back and edit the reference about the tank top, so I don't confuse anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    as a general statement, without dentals, fingerprints, DNA or a composite sketch of the UID, how is anyone to find a match?
    That's a good question, and I agree with you.

    The NamUs profile was just created in February 2011 - I'm hoping there will be more info to go on in the future as they build the profile.

    Sarah Krebs is the case manager listed on the NamUs profile. She's a forensic artist with the Michigan State Police. If she's involved, I'm hoping that means that there could be a composite in the works. (Why get the forensic artist involved otherwise? Or maybe that's wishful thinking on my part?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin Masamura View Post

    * also the guy who shot his wife, the strongest profile match, seem according to her "find a grave site" had shell casings in her car with "B" matter present and matching blood.. just wanted to point it out.. happy sleuthing!


    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/8581/44/

    I'd agree that she does sound like a promising lead. The time frame and geography line up well.

    There is a discrepancy in the age range (Bernice was 24, the UID is estimated between 32-52). Also, I see that they have a suspected burial location for Bernice in the Detroit area, but her body still has not been found there.

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