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  1. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by gracielee View Post
    I thought Mr. Rentz' testimony was rather powerful. Brought me near to tears a couple times.
    same here. it's the methodical and thorough way he answers everything. like he never forgot every moment he spent with NC and every word he spoke with her. very sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snowshuze View Post
    Landline conversations with Nancys parents stopped. They went to cell phones.
    When did they stop using the landline? tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    Beyond everything else, that's one of the biggest things I have an issue with him about. Even if you weren't on speaking terms with the in-laws, I would think you would at least talk to them out of respect.
    Especially since the in-laws who had always *helped* you over the course of your marriage, continued to help now, and didn't appear to be anything less than cordial.


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    For the jury, hearing Nancys voice brings home the REASON they're there. This person has DIED VIOLENTLY, and someone has deprived her children/family of her presence forever. Who had motive and opportunity to do this? Who benefitted the most by her death?
    "In the end, everything will be made known. Everything will come out. And in the meantime, smile and say "cheese." - Jodi Arias



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    Quote Originally Posted by momof7 View Post
    I thought he said the orginal mortgage was 190k and there was about 160k left
    You may very well be correct. I thought that I heard that 190K was paid off and 160K to buy out. Considering their wealthy lifestyle a house worth 350K didn't seem too far fetched.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gracielee View Post
    Especially since the in-laws who had always *helped* you over the course of your marriage, continued to help now, and didn't appear to be anything less than cordial.
    Even after the affair with HM, the father spoke of playing a game with BC while NC was putting the children to bed. Sharing wine and conversation is how he put it I believe.

    Regardless of anything they appeared to be very cordial and forgiving if Nancy wanted them to be.

    Kelly


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    Quote Originally Posted by MountE View Post
    You may very well be correct. I thought that I heard that 190K was paid off and 160K to buy out. Considering their wealthy lifestyle a house worth 350K didn't seem too far fetched.
    You could be correct. But possibly since the house was bought in the early
    2000's I would guess it would be closer to the 190k mark then. In July 2008 that house (by pictures I have seen) could have been sold for 350k.

    Kelly


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    Quote Originally Posted by momof7 View Post
    Even after the affair with HM, the father spoke of playing a game with BC while NC was putting the children to bed. Sharing wine and conversation is how he put it I believe.

    Regardless of anything they appeared to be very cordial and forgiving if Nancy wanted them to be.

    Kelly
    I believe all they wanted was for Nancy to be happy.
    "In the end, everything will be made known. Everything will come out. And in the meantime, smile and say "cheese." - Jodi Arias



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    According to this article, you may NOT get a U.S. Social Security card if you're an immigrant, UNLESS you have permission from DHS to work in the U.S. or are a verified foreign student.

    Also, on the day NC was attempting to open a bank account, I believe was the day the water was turned off. NC was at home with two sick children with fevers. The bank told her she could NOT open the account without a social security number. PERPHAPS they meant over the phone, IDNK, but she said she'd TRY to do it in person when the kids were no longer sick.....Also, every time I've opened a bank account, you need an amount to deposit at the time of opening the account. IF NC had NO MONEY, how was she supposed to open an account.

    What's with this emailing all this stuff. BC trying to cover-himself? My bet is, yes, for court when it came up. (don't get excited, I mean divorce court, not premeditation. I THINK that came later )

    fran


    http://www.whitman.edu/content/immigration/ssn

    Non-citizens who have work authorization from DHS
    Only non-citizens who have permission to work from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can apply for a Social Security number.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<more at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10096.html

    If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7, Application For An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

    If a business or government agency asks you for a Social Security number and you are not authorized to work in the United States, ask if they can identify you in some other way. In most cases, you will be able to get the service or license you need without a Social Security number


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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    Interesting, he actually asked her to get a bank account.
    I'm a little curious where the 20 something thousand dollars was deposited. It wouldn't have been given in cash. If it was a cheque, where was it deposited? Also, I think that Krista or Nancy's parents could have opened a joint US$ bank account in Ontario or Alberta and then added Nancy to the account.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    According to this article, you may NOT get a U.S. Social Security card if you're an immigrant, UNLESS you have permission from DHS to work in the U.S. or are a verified foreign student.

    Also, on the day NC was attempting to open a bank account, I believe was the day the water was turned off. NC was at home with two sick children with fevers. The bank told her she could NOT open the account without a social security number. PERPHAPS they meant over the phone, IDNK, but she said she'd TRY to do it in person when the kids were no longer sick.....Also, every time I've opened a bank account, you need an amount to deposit at the time of opening the account. IF NC had NO MONEY, how was she supposed to open an account.

    What's with this emailing all this stuff. BC trying to cover-himself? My bet is, yes, for court when it came up. (don't get excited, I mean divorce court, not premeditation. I THINK that came later )

    fran


    http://www.whitman.edu/content/immigration/ssn

    Non-citizens who have work authorization from DHS
    Only non-citizens who have permission to work from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can apply for a Social Security number.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<more at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10096.html

    If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7, Application For An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

    If a business or government agency asks you for a Social Security number and you are not authorized to work in the United States, ask if they can identify you in some other way. In most cases, you will be able to get the service or license you need without a Social Security number
    I wonder if every bank has this policy. I got to believe that there are a lot of people in this country (US) that are in the same situation as NC (non-working spouse from another country) and surely they must have means to use banking here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    I'm a little curious where the 20 something thousand dollars was deposited. It wouldn't have been given in cash. If it was a cheque, where was it deposited? Also, I think that Krista or Nancy's parents could have opened a joint US$ bank account in Ontario or Alberta and then added Nancy to the account.
    I didn't even think of that (getting or adding an account in Canada) but it's a good point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by momof7 View Post
    You could be correct. But possibly since the house was bought in the early
    2000's I would guess it would be closer to the 190k mark then. In July 2008 that house (by pictures I have seen) could have been sold for 350k.

    Kelly
    Since they did buy it in the early 2000's surely they would have paid more than 30K off the morgage... na maybe not!

    True ,I was thinking more along 2010 house prices.


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    I believe that if you are a US citizen - you need to provide your SS card. If you are not, you need to provide ID. (thanks, eHow)

    you get an ITIN
    http://www.ehow.com/how_4928681_open...ty-number.html

    Makes sense as deposits over $10K in cash need some sort of documentation as it gets reported to the IRS - which again makes sense in SS number needed for taxes, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    I wonder if every bank has this policy. I got to believe that there are a lot of people in this country (US) that are in the same situation as NC (non-working spouse from another country) and surely they must have means to use banking here.
    Well, I live in California and most of the immigrants I know are from Mexico. The ones here illegally usually don't have bank accounts, at least the ones I know. They use money orders to pay bills,... or in person. We used to have a business here that accepted electric company and gas company payments. 99% of them were in cash.

    hth
    fran


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