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    FL - Miami, WhtMale 742UMFL, 21-35, in canal, Apr'04

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    Case File 742UMFL
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/742umfl.html


    Reconstruction of Victim by Samantha Steinberg

    Unidentified White Male

    * The victim was discovered on April 26, 2004 in Miami, Miami-Dade County, Florida

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 21-35 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'0"-6'0"; 152 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, 3.5 centimeters in length; brown eyes. He had a short gray and brown mustache and beard. A 23.0 centimeter, mid line, vertical scar is on his upper abdomen.
    * Clothing: Light red Anvil brand, 100% cotton preshrunk teeshirt (size large), with the inscription and logo of Atlantis, Paradise Island, Bahamas Resort. Nautica brand khaki pants, black socks. No shoes, jewelry or personal effects were found.
    * Dentals: Available
    * Fingerprints: Available
    * DNA: Available; University of North Texas

    Case History

    The victim was located at a canal at 12222 N.W. 22nd Avenue Road in Miami, Florida on April 26, 2004. The canal is in a residential area, running east and west, but channels parallel to N.W. 22nd Avenue.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:33 AM. Reason: per request of op

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    This guy just showed up in NamUs a couple of days ago:

    Orestes Perez

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10145/23



    * He is missing from Miami only 8 days before the body was found (in a canal in Miami)
    * Very solid resemblance. Eyebrows are identical, nose is very similar. Facial shape is similar.
    * His age and height are within range, although the height range is very wide.
    * No mention of a scar on his abdomen.
    * The UID is listed as caucasion, but based on his appearance, could be Hispanic.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:34 AM.

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    good choice Carl.

    I thought it was impossible to have an intact body "fresh" enough to have eye color and not have an accurate measurement of height.

    per Namus the UID was 5'6":

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1031

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy just showed up in NamUs a couple of days ago:

    Orestes Perez

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10145/23



    * He is missing from Miami only 8 days before the body was found (in a canal in Miami)
    * Very solid resemblance. Eyebrows are identical, nose is very similar. Facial shape is similar.
    * His age and height are within range, although the height range is very wide.
    * No mention of a scar on his abdomen.
    * The UID is listed as caucasion, but based on his appearance, could be Hispanic.
    The thing that especially catches my eye is the way the ears sit unusually low on both Perez's and the UID's head.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:35 AM.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    good choice Carl.

    I thought it was impossible to have an intact body "fresh" enough to have eye color and not have an accurate measurement of height.

    per Namus the UID was 5'6":

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1031
    Thanks for putting that up. I had to be somewhere, and I was in a hurry to finish my post before I left. I didn't have time to find the NamUs file.

    But the more specific height estimate is still within range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Thanks for putting that up. I had to be somewhere, and I was in a hurry to finish my post before I left. I didn't have time to find the NamUs file.

    But the more specific height estimate is still within range.
    at Namus there is a second image of the UID with a darker complexion. looks much more like Orestes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy just showed up in NamUs a couple of days ago:

    Orestes Perez

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10145/23



    He is missing from Miami only 8 days before the body was found (in a canal in Miami)
    * Very solid resemblance. Eyebrows are identical, nose is very similar. Facial shape is similar.
    * His age and height are within range, although the height range is very wide.
    * No mention of a scar on his abdomen.
    * The UID is listed as caucasion, but based on his appearance, could be Hispanic.
    I just sent off an e-mail to Sandra Boyd of the Miami-Dade Cnty Med Examiners Office.

    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    at Namus there is a second image of the UID with a darker complexion. looks much more like Orestes.
    The body probably was in poor condition from being in water, thereby making it difficult to assess his complexion.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:35 AM.

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    Received a reply from Sandra Boyd:

    She says that she is forwarding the info to the MP detective on the case.

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    You're on a roll Carl!

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    any update on this possible match? It looks very good


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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthWestHiker View Post
    any update on this possible match? It looks very good
    No, but I'll send an e-mail off to see what has been done.

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    I received a reply from Sandra Boyd. She forwarded a message from the detective in charge of the case.

    I sent DNA recently to North Texas Univ. The DNA was taken from his son. I have not received anything back from the university yet.
    I hope that they are requesting a specific manual comparison, as opposed to just an entry to CODIS.

    According to David VanNorman (Deputy Coroner Investigator of the San Bernadino County (CA) Coroner's Office), CODIS will not even perform a familial nucDNA comparison based only on a single Family Reference Sample.

    And since the missing person is male and the FRS is from his offspring, a mtDNA comparison can’t be performed either.

    ETA: I replied to her e-mail explaining just that.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 06-13-2011 at 12:07 PM.

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    Just thought I would check in on this case. I found this possible match yesterday and realized today that you had already posted it. It seems pretty obvious to me. Any update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherBearSTL View Post
    Just thought I would check in on this case. I found this possible match yesterday and realized today that you had already posted it. It seems pretty obvious to me. Any update?
    No, I've not heard back. Maybe I should ask the case manager for an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy just showed up in NamUs a couple of days ago:

    Orestes Perez

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10145/23



    * He is missing from Miami only 8 days before the body was found (in a canal in Miami)
    * Very solid resemblance. Eyebrows are identical, nose is very similar. Facial shape is similar.
    * His age and height are within range, although the height range is very wide.
    * No mention of a scar on his abdomen.
    * The UID is listed as caucasion, but based on his appearance, could be Hispanic.
    I just got an e-mail back from Sandra Boyd on the comparison of this John Doe to Orestes Perez:

    They were able to find a dental x-ray of one tooth - Ruled Out based on dentals.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:35 AM.

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