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Case File 1619UMNY http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1619umny.html
Unidentified Black Male
* The victim was discovered on October 12, 1997 in New York County, New York
* Estimated age: 20-30 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 71"; 165 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Black, coarse, curly hair; brown eyes.
* Tattoos: "Nate the Great" on right shoulder.
* Clothing: Light blue boxers, blue "Pelle Pelle" jeans and a blue shoe.
* Dentals: Available
The victim was located floating in the East River at East 90th Street by the Coast Guard.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-08-2013 at 11:51 PM.
How about this guy:
* His name is Nathan (of which "Nate" is a variation).
* He was last seen six days before the UID was found.
* He is from the Bronx. The UID was found in the East River (which is pretty close to the Bronx)
* He is reported to have a tattoo that says "Nat" on his Left Shoulder. The UID's tattoo is on the right. But the description on Nathan Hines' NAMPN page may be mistaken.
* His height is within an inch.
* His age is within range.
* His ethnicity is right.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 11-14-2013 at 02:24 PM. Reason: Fixed bad link
Turn it in Carl!!
You would think they would have been compared, but we both know that is not always the case
Great job...fingers crossed.
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The location is good. The Bronx is upstream from the East River location.
[ame="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=3050+Park+Ave,+Bronx,+NY +10451&daddr=E+River+Dr&hl=en&geocode=FX3mbgIdKRiY-ykv9uZ_zPXCiTGf9rF2ICQC-g%3BFdI1bgIdOrmX-w&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=16&sll=40.775634,-73.943932&sspn=0.00689,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=40.80081 6,-73.915501&spn=0.055097,0.154324&t=h&z=13"]Bronx to 90th at East River[/ame]
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looks good Carl. NY seems to be finally making an effort. Hopefully Nathan can soon rest in peace.
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I sent an e-mail to Benjamin Figura yesterday evening after not receiving a reply to my voicemail message. He replied as follows:
Carl, I got your message yesterday and the match is compelling. I'm waiting on additional info from missing persons.
I think this is a match Carl! Great Job!!!!!
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Sounds good Carl!
here is the Namus link for the UID:
no rule-outs including Nathan Hines. interestingly enough, the Namus page was last modified on April 12, 2011 which was the day after Carl called the NYC ME's office, but it is impossible to know what was modified.
Nothing else on this yet?
I don' do a lot of this - generally I just stick to one old case by me - but when I saw this pop up on DoeNetwork I came to the same place as Carl did and I've been watching this thread ever since.
So, I'm wondering - what takes this long to rule someone out?
Still nothing huh?
We are running into the same problem with him regarding another case. I have tried several other people in the ME office but no luck there either.
Is there something else we can do for all of these unidentified people in the NYC area? There has to be someone who can help if the ME/Local police are not interested in solving these cases?!? Some of them may be easily solved with a simple DNA test, that apparently NYC is not doing even though they received a grant to do so....
The UID at the link below is another case where NYC has an obvious match (to MP Ernest Lyons), and doesn't seem to want to do the legwork to get a positive ID:
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6449937#post6449937"]Submitted NY- UID Male (NamUs #5977), New York, Sept 2001 to: Ernest Lyons, New York, Sept 2001[/ame]