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    MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 December 2010 #6 *Arrest*

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    Phylicia Barnes is from Monroe, North Carolina and was visiting the Baltimore area with her family when she was reported missing. Police believe she was abducted and suspect foul play.

    From Wednesday February 2nd, 2011 Baltimore LE presser:

    We want people in the Bmore area to concentrate on that Tuesday. They may have seen something that makes no sense, that doesn’t seem significant to them, but in light of THIS, it may have significance to US.


    Anyone with information about Barnes’ whereabouts is asked to call Baltimore's Missing Persons Unit at 443-984-7385.

    If you have any information on this young girl, you are urged to call 1-800-843-5678,or the Baltimore Maryland City Police Department at 1-410-396-2525.

    Added 'tipline' additional number which appears in numerous MSM articles:

    The Baltimore Police Department is asking anyone with information on this case to call 855-223-0033.


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    What happened? Why??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACH50 View Post
    What happened? Why??
    Anytime a thread gets to be 500 or so posts a new one is opened.

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    quasi time-line

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    Dec. 27
    PB communicated with sister SS in NC, and with a friend in Monroe. Not sure of times. But we have outside confirmation that PB was alive on the 27th.
    PB and DB arrived home from work, and there were others at the apartment. The cousin, the little brother, PB, and DB slept at the apartment that night.

    Dec. 28
    DB left the apartment at 8:45 am to go to work. PB stayed home. DB said she left PB in the bedroom they were sharing.
    Not sure when Cousin left the apartment or IF he left.

    A bunch of stuff has been reported, NONE of which is credible, IMO.
    Including the following:
    MJ came to the apartment around 9 am to pick up lil bro (16 yr old).
    Around 10:30 am or so, MJ returned to the apartment to pack for his move, and do laundry.
    According to MJ, PB was up, just out of the shower, when he got there, and there has been a lot of reports about what PB and MJ did from his 10:30 arrival to his 1:30 departure. Computer stuff, hair, laundry, chatting, texting, FB snooping, calling KB/DB, sleeping, etc. Because there is SO MUCH CONFUSION about what actually occurred, I won't list it all here. (See previous timelines, posted near the beginning of each thread.)
    What has been stated clearly, without variation is that MJ left the apartment at 1:30 pm, and PB was asleep on the couch and had mumbled something about getting something to eat. ETA: But again, this is all based on what MJ has told everyone. So what really happened???

    KB was supposed to pick PB up at 1:30, after KB got off work. She called/texted, and could not reach PB, so she did not go to the apartment.

    Around 3:30, KB communicated with DB, learned that PB was asleep at 1:30, and decided to let her sleep.

    MJ/Lilbro/Cousin (not sure who, or even when) returned to the apartment around 5, found PB gone, and door unlocked (but closed), music loud, and dog still at home.

    DB returns to the apartment around 6 pm to find PB gone. Chaos ensues, calls are made.

    Around 8 pm B'more time, JS calls DB because JS has not been able to reach PB. JS learns of PB's disappearance.

    BB, PB's brother in B'more, checks PB's computer to see if there are any clues. her computer was open, and her social networking sites were still open.

    Dec. 29
    RB, father arrives. The list of POI's is made.

    Dec. 30
    JS, mother arrives, grills DB and KB, but then is not allowed to speak to MJ. (she leaves 2 days later). Js shares what she learns from DB about drugs, alcohol, and men in the apartment, but is quickly shut down and condemned for doing so by the B family.

    (I have not listed sources. I've posted a time line each thread, but I didn't want to copy/past, because so much of what we've been working with is, in my opinion, now called into question. So this is a skeleton.)
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    Phylicia's uncle (HW) has named MJ on the Prayer page.
    Maybe that will get the ball rolling...

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pray-f...2243339?v=wall

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    Thank you so much for the quasi-time-line georgiajean.

    1:30pm seems to be the time BPD is going with when asking the public for help/info/tips. Since we can't consider MJ's information credible, I'd like to know why LE is confident enough with this time they have focused on this specific time the public. Why 1:30pm as opposed to 10:30am?

    Surely BPD isn't taking MJ's word for it - so how exactly did LE confirm this time frame, early afternoon?
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    When was the last time a non B'more friend or family member spoke with PB? IIRC her mom had not spoken with her since the day following Christmas? (someone please correct me if the 26th is inaccurate).

    Did PB verbally speak with any non B'more friends or family after contacting her sister SS? OR was sister SS the last contact outside of the B'more group?

    Are there any witnesses to MJ doing his laundry?
    Are there any witnesses (non family/non friend) who can place MJ at the apartment until 1:30 pm the day PB went missing?
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    I will bring my question over from the last thread; was it stated that P usually went with her sister to work, or always went with her? If she "always" went, except for that day, it is very odd indeed that no one called her (and that she did not go.)

    I don't understand why LE would have been able to pinpoint a timeline at all, if no one actually spoke to P since possibly early in the AM before her sister went to work; how could they know for sure that someone did not pretend to be P on texts and computer?
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Question: does PB and SS have the same father? Just wondering because if they do, I wonder why SS didn't have the same kind of relationship with the B family as PB did - and also if SS has any insight into the whole B clan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    When was the last time a non B'more friend or family member spoke with PB? IIRC her mom had not spoken with her since the day following Christmas? (someone please correct me if the 26th is inaccurate).

    Did PB verbally speak with any non B'more friends or family after contacting her sister SS? OR was sister SS the last contact outside of the B'more group?

    Are there any witnesses to MJ doing his laundry?
    Are there any witnesses (non family/non friend) who can place MJ at the apartment until 1:30 pm the day PB went missing?
    JT (best friend of PB, in Monroe) Skyped with PB on the 27th.
    SS (Sister in Monroe) communicated with PB on the 27th, though I have not seen it stated if this was text, phone, skype, or what.
    No word on when either communication took place, or if any other communication occurred.
    There was facebook communication, but no verbal/skype reported. There could have been, and we don't know it, which may influence LE's timeline.
    JS said she last spoke to PB on Christmas Day ("I said none of the kids were going anywhere next year for Christmas because I was so lonely without them, and she (PB) said Mommy, I miss you too.")

    Your last two questions are very important. Those questions may be related to LE's time line as well. But I have not seen those questions answered in the affirmative, anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by belimom View Post
    Question: does PB and SS have the same father? Just wondering because if they do, I wonder why SS didn't have the same kind of relationship with the B family as PB did - and also if SS has any insight into the whole B clan...
    PB and SS have a different father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I will bring my question over from the last thread; was it stated that P usually went with her sister to work, or always went with her? If she "always" went, except for that day, it is very odd indeed that no one called her (and that she did not go.)

    I don't understand why LE would have been able to pinpoint a timeline at all, if no one actually spoke to P since possibly early in the AM before her sister went to work; how could they know for sure that someone did not pretend to be P on texts and computer?
    From the Washington Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/todays...35_epaper.html) Which broke a lot of the facts we only recently learned, like the little brother AND cousin being at the house.
    Phylicia went to work most days with Barnes, a pharmacy technician, or another half sister, Kelly Barnes, 25, assistant manager of a day care in Columbia, relatives said. She also has a half brother, Bryan Barnes, 23, in Baltimore. She kept in touch with friends and family by calling, texting and posting on Facebook, police said.
    bbm

    Another important quote:
    Deena Barnes said that the night before Phylicia disappeared, Dec. 27, they had returned home from her job in the early evening. Her ex-boyfriend and former roommate, his 16-year-old brother and his 21-year-old cousin, who is also a roommate, were at the apartment, she said.

    When Deena Barnes left for work the next morning at 8:45, Phylicia was asleep in a bedroom they were sharing. The ex-boyfriend went to the apartment that morning to pick up his brother. Phylicia texted her later that he was there and doing laundry. Barnes exchanged texts with Phylicia and her ex-boyfriend and had at least one phone call with Phylicia. But just after noon, Phylicia stopped responding. to texts and calls went to voice mail. At 1:04 p.m., the ex-boyfriend texted her that Phylicia was sleeping and had told him she later planned “to go get something to eat.”

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    Regarding the timeline, remember that (unless this has been discredited) on the Pray for PB page a friend of PB's said that PB commented on a facebook photo a little after 11:00 on 12/28. Of course, it depends on what the comment said, but I think if it was someone (MJ, etc.) pretending to be PB they wouldn't have risked commenting on a friend's photo.

    Also, DB previously indicated she and PB had been texting about beauty supplies, specifically Neutrogena Skin ID. I do not believe that if it were MJ/etc. sending those texts he could have fooled DB in that conversation.

    Of course, remember that the Barnes family targeted their fliers in the Frederick Ave/N. Bend Road neighborhood. They are saying, without saying, that MJ/etc. are the ones responsible for PB's disappearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleur.de.lis View Post
    Regarding the timeline, remember that (unless this has been discredited) on the Pray for PB page a friend of PB's said that PB commented on a facebook photo a little after 11:00 on 12/28. Of course, it depends on what the comment said, but I think if it was someone (MJ, etc.) pretending to be PB they wouldn't have risked commenting on a friend's photo.

    Also, DB previously indicated she and PB had been texting about beauty supplies, specifically Neutrogena Skin ID. I do not believe that if it were MJ/etc. sending those texts he could have fooled DB in that conversation.

    Of course, remember that the Barnes family targeted their fliers in the Frederick Ave/N. Bend Road neighborhood. They are saying, without saying, that MJ/etc. are the ones responsible for PB's disappearance.

    Maybe MJ could have faked it, maybe not. FWIW, I've run into a few men in my life who were knowledgable of skin care and makeup. For the sole reason they were particular about their womans appearance. If MJ was particular about such things it's possible he had enough knowledge to fake it pretending to just answer questions and listen to what big sister had to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleur.de.lis View Post
    Regarding the timeline, remember that (unless this has been discredited) on the Pray for PB page a friend of PB's said that PB commented on a facebook photo a little after 11:00 on 12/28. Of course, it depends on what the comment said, but I think if it was someone (MJ, etc.) pretending to be PB they wouldn't have risked commenting on a friend's photo.

    Also, DB previously indicated she and PB had been texting about beauty supplies, specifically Neutrogena Skin ID. I do not believe that if it were MJ/etc. sending those texts he could have fooled DB in that conversation.

    Of course, remember that the Barnes family targeted their fliers in the Frederick Ave/N. Bend Road neighborhood. They are saying, without saying, that MJ/etc. are the ones responsible for PB's disappearance.
    I am going to say this as succinctly as I can... Any reported communication with PB, with people inside the circle of folks connected to that apartment, is suspect, IMO. I am not saying anyone is telling lies. But until corroborating evidence is released, I reserve the right to suspect everyone.

    The comment on her friend's photo is a communication that MJ would have no real reason to fake, but it is still a technological communication, not real-voice, real-time. IMO

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