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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiajean View Post
    All of this thinking is great. To have locals who know the area really helps in thinking things out.

    If she was placed in the river far upstream, what are all the likely ports of entry between the dam and the next major city up river?

    MJ was out of communication for many hours.
    He supposedly did not go to work that night.
    He placed himself at the apartment at 1:30, and then again around 5 pm.
    He returned DB's call around 7:30ish.
    He returned to the apartment after 1 am.
    That's a big window of opportunity. If he knew about cell phone pings/tracing, he would not have used his phone while out of the city. Which leaves 1:30-7:30 as his window. (because only MJ places himself at the apartment at 5. There was rumor of a text "PB is up and active" around 5, but that bit of info disappeared in the B and J family coverups.)
    OR 7:30 to 1 am. Either window gives a lot of opportunity for travelling. He thought she would never show up. He thought he took her far enough away, that she would never be found. How far away COULD he have taken her, and still have her show up at the dam??? There's another dam up river. Say he put her in just on this side of that dam?

    We have a family friend that lives in the Bulle Rock Community (gated commuity) in Havre de Grace/Harford County area, by the Susquehanna River. I have been up there one time. She says that it takes her about 45 minutes to an hour to get to Baltimore City. My sisters go up to her house occassionally. Pennsylvania is about 4 miles from Conawingo dam. It should only take about an hour and a half to get to Pennsylvania from Reisterstown Square Apartments if you go up Reisterstown Road, take exit 695 North, to 95 North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by writer7 View Post
    I've been reading as much as I can about the case. I'll make some points about the texts and phone calls and the girls' 'alibis' that day if anyone is interested. Mostly, I want to note that I don't think the girls sound unusual. I feel just horrible for JS and everyone, but these girls sound like where I hung out at age 18-19 or so. I'm not saying that I'd lie to a mother about men living there, etc, but if my little half-sister wanted me to, I might. It would be tempting.

    I actually had a problem with people on the lease letting in whomever they pleased. One dude was given our keys and came in silently while I was in the shower! I kicked out the girl who wouldn't change those ways, as I was the primary lease-holder.

    I haven't been able to find much about tweets and actions of the guys, except for that timeline posted on the FB page mentioned in the last page or two. So I can't say how I feel about all that. Certainly, someone can really leave someone sleeping. I'll have to know more.

    I do have theories about what could have happened had Phylicia really left to get food.

    Did police ever check cameras (if there are any) that are around that nearby metro stop?


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    There is a difference between irresponsible 18-19 college girls vs. 26 year old young ladies working and living a responsible life.
    DB knew how JS was raising PB, and how important her well being was.
    JS mentioned on Peas or NG that the only reason she allowed PB around DB and KB is because she thought that they would be a good influence to her because they had went to school and were doing things with their lives.

    This was PB's 4 visit with them and I am not sure where she stayed doing the previous visits, nor if any wrong doings occured? Apparently things appeared to be OK, JS allowed her to return.

    Thats whats so painful about this visit, all that could go wrong went wrong, because I think that DB was lying to JS from the beginning of this trip?

    As I said earlier, DB judgment was a little cloudy because she was dealing with a serious break-up, and that is the worst time to try to have a teenager visit that is naive and needs guidance and care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belimom View Post
    Regarding NG's comments about a blizzard in our area at that time, that is not true... I wonder why RB agreed?

    Correct!! It was sunny and extremely cold that day and most of that week. It may have been snowing in Atlanta, but not Baltimore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun48shine View Post
    We have a family friend that lives in the Bulle Rock Community (gated commuity) in Havre de Grace/Harford County area, by the Susquehanna River. I have been up there one time. She says that it takes her about 45 minutes to an hour to get to Baltimore City. My sisters go up to her house occassionally. Pennsylvania is about 4 miles from Conawingo dam. It should only take about an hour and a half to get to Pennsylvania from Reisterstown Square Apartments if you go up Reisterstown Road, take exit 695 North, to 95 North.
    MJ mentioned in the find PB fb (now deleted), that he loves to travel.

    Does anyone have access to the New group (Justice)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiajean View Post
    Or maybe the moving day occurred due to troubles the night before...
    DB sounded shocked on Peas interview and when PB told her that MJ had returned and was moving some things out.

    Either she didn't understand what and why he was still moving things?
    Or she didn't want him moving things while she was not there, for fear that he may take her things as well?

    I think MJ didn't really have that many things left on the 28th and DB knew this. This may be the key to the story that DB has already told LE.
    What was MJ moving out, and why did he have laundry still there to do?
    Why had he returned without DB knowing ahead of time?
    Did he decide to return just because he realized PB was there alone????

    All of this LE knows and have pretty good idea of what MJ truths vs. lies are all about on that day the 28th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    The only reason I can see bringing up acne is as part of her physical description for the MP flyers. Most of the MP photo's I saw of PB did not show her face with acne, fewer did than did not.

    jmo
    DB was just trying to be clear about what her and PB talked about that day, because she didn't want the tone of the interview to appear that she didn't care. That interview was for DB and KB to be cleared and stopped being blamed by the public. So any and all details of there commuication with PB that day was to be discussed. However they still only told us what they wanted to tell us, and talking about the face card product was easier than the other issues and questions that were in the air about that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACH50 View Post
    I was thinking that maybe he was there fishing as well, and LE are trying to connect the stories. I just don't think any information that we have discussed leaves any room for someone else to have been killed with her?
    Unless this person is a drug dealer or some sort of monster, that neither MJ's nor DB's families wants to speak about? But that doesn't make sense either?

    So I am believing that he was someone that fell out of a boat.


    On March 5, 2011 a man's body was found in the Susqehanna River. I am not sure how long he had been in the river. He was from Pennsylvania.

    http://www.wgal.com


    A woman's body was found in the Susqehanna River on March 21, 2011.

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