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    "You gotta believe based on the rural area, the wooded area, dense wooded area that [the suspect]it would have to be someone that's familiar with the territory." - Gwynn, TBi Director.
    http://midsouthnewz.com/news/midsout...s-day-six.html

    Christine helm - TBI:
    "think about somebody that you know that was wearing camouflage, whose whereabouts were unaccounted for. This man who also maybe cleaned out a car, reported a vehicle or an ATV stolen, some unusual behavior regarding a vehicle or an all terrain vehicle."
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42648235...me_and_courts/

    Interview with Gwynn (will contain other comments already posted in snippets):
    Reporter asks about current status of investigation and current search area:
    Gwyn:
    "Well, we are running over 250 leads that we have received. We have expanded the search down to the Natchez Trace (spelling?) Parkway. Uh, we found some evidence that we believe belonged to Holly, several miles from the house, so, we felt that it was imperative to expand the search."
    reporter asks about the lunch box, anything wlse they might have found and if they are encouraged by the finds:
    Gwyn:
    "Well, it's very encouraging. We found the lunchbox, uh, other evidence that we think may have belonged to Holly, and we are analyzing that evidence at the TBI crime lab at this moment, hoping that we will, um, be able to extract some evidence from, uh, one of those pieces of items that will help further along the investigation."
    Reporter asks about the please to watch for one of their own that may have been involved:
    Gwyn:
    "Well, uh, based on the evidence that we have now, we believe that the person would have had to have known the area, either by hunting in the area or living in the area, so that's why we're asking the residents of Parsons to look amongst themselves to f - for anyone that may be, uh, acting differently, someone that may have been missing around Wednesday, someone that was supposed to be hunting in the area Wednesday, hoping that that will help us, uh, further the investigation also."
    Reporter asks if there are suspects:
    Gwyn:
    "Well, we, we have evidence, um, once again, that we are analyzing, uh, we, we get, we have over 250 leads, uh, to say that we have a person of interest right now, we don't. Uh, but, at any moment, based on the evidence, based on the leads, based on the community support, the next phone call could lead to that."
    Reporter asks about reports that her brother and bf were initially cleared as suspects, and whether that has changed:
    Gwyn:
    "Well, I don't think it's changed. I think obviously uh, both of those people would have been witnesses, especially her brother, uh, being the person that last saw her, uh, but I can tell you that we have not eliminated anyone from this investigation. Uh, so I don't know that they were ever considered suspects, more probably witnesses, uh, but at this point, it's too early in the investigation to clear anyone."
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42648235...me_and_courts/

    Gwyn:
    "There is a family out here that needs closure."
    http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news...k-mfo-20110418
    (I hate seeing reference to closure already, but it has been nearly a week now.)
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Authorities describe roadblocks as 'new tactic' http://bit.ly/eLRzje #hollybobo


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    What good could a road block 7 days later be? Whats the chance someone is driving around with evidence 7 days later?

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    Authorities say roadblocks new tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishing4good View Post
    Authorities describe roadblocks as 'new tactic' http://bit.ly/eLRzje #hollybobo


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    What good could a road block 7 days later be? Whats the chance someone is driving around with evidence 7 days later?
    maybe to question what people saw? that road intersects the Swan Johnson Rd....wasn't that the area searched early? evidence poss. found there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishing4good View Post
    Authorities describe roadblocks as 'new tactic' http://bit.ly/eLRzje #hollybobo


    http://twitter.com/willnunley


    What good could a road block 7 days later be? Whats the chance someone is driving around with evidence 7 days later?
    I'm wondering if they feel like some of this "evidence" they have been finding has been being tossed out of a vehicle driving around to toy or throw off LE? But it wouldnt work to catch them if you advertise that tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishing4good View Post
    Authorities describe roadblocks as 'new tactic' http://bit.ly/eLRzje #hollybobo


    http://twitter.com/willnunley


    What good could a road block 7 days later be? Whats the chance someone is driving around with evidence 7 days later?


    I was just thinking the exact same thing when I saw his tweet - but then I thought about the Jessica Lloyd case up in Ontario - they had found tire track evidence at the house and were stopping vehicles in the area to have one officer chat up the driver and another to compare tire treads on the vehicle. It is a long shot -- if they had found that type of evidence before the storms rolled through last week then why wait till now to set them up?
    Really hoping there is an ingenious "method to their madness"!

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    I am glad they are trying everything, i.e. roadblock/questioning drivers, but it does seem as though they are really scrambling and not much closer to finding her.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Another interesting idea is looking for cars with new tires, newly washed, inside missing carpet, etc. I know in other cases these were signs that caught the person in the end.

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    If they are trying a road block nearly a week later they may have some info that a potential suspect may be trying to leave the area.
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    I don't think this is going to have a happy ending at all.

    I hope if she is gone, she did not suffer in torture in any way, like two of the cases I've read about. (Channon Christian & Chris Newsom & Jodi Sanderholm).

    all three of these people suffered for 5 hours or more.

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    I'm not second guessing LE at all but it sure seems as if the roadblocks would have been more helpful on the day she went missing or the day after. Maybe they will generate some new leads this way but it just seems odd to me to have roadblocks almost a week later.



    ~jmo~

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfrohning View Post
    I would like to know what Holly did the week before?

    I still checking out this guy... from what I can tell he was arrested over the week end in Madison county.

    http://jacksonnewsnow.com/articles/l...tmpl=component

    I map his address in Holladay, Tn
    He lives right in middle of natchez park and a wild life refuee.

    He got couple warrants in different counties.
    On the 7th his 'license plate' was given to LE by a witness so what took so long (16th/17th?) to find & apprehend him?

    I suppose he could've been MIA due to kidnapping Holly on the 13th but that's still almost a whole week later so that doesn't quite jive..OTH! His MO is to stalk young women while they're shopping or just walking along so I guess we can't completely rule him out since he did actually follow one home to her dorm.

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    Jodi Sanderholm had a stalker; a local guy names Justin Thurber who staked some of the girls from Jodi's College dance team.

    He had been watching Jodi for years.

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    Wanting to look at tires/interiors makes sense. Suspect leaving the area doesn't make much sense. Any suspects at this point would be in deep interrogation I would think.

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    Hello all,

    I started on here back with Laci Peterson! Anyhow, this case really drew my attention.

    Sadly, I don't feel that she is alive. I appreciate a pp stats on adult abductions, but I almost feel like those must be more relevant to cases where someone takes the person for a few hours and then let's them go, but not when they take them for weeks, months, on end.

    I feel like the publicized cases in which a victim has been kept alive for a long period of time involve minors/children, but not grown women, where the captor kind of brainwashes the victim so they don't constantly fight and try to escape (Elizabeth Smart, Sarah Maynard, Duggard).

    This case is so sad and scary because it happened right outside her home. I also doubt that it is an ex-boyfriend or even a family member. I feel like in cases where the LE wants cooperation from the ex or the family, they do throw out the line about "not a suspect" but they don't actually deny the existence of the ex and the suspicious family member. This case feels different to me.

    In some ways, you almost hope it is an ex or a family member (outside of the best possibility of her coming back alive), because it makes us feel safer than some deranged obsessed stalker laying in wait outside your home. Whenever I hear about one of these horrible cases, I do almost wish it was the crazy ex, horrible stepfather, or boyfriend becuase it makes me and my family feel safer in this crazy world since I don't have any crazy exes or abusive boyfriends, etc. It makes you feel a little in control of the crazy. Sadly, I feel like this is one of those cases where the tragedy is only compounded by the randomness of it.

    P.S. Not saying that I want these victims to be hurt, abused or killed. I don't. I can't comprehend the abuse and violence at the hands of anyone, but I personally find it very unnerving when it's a stranger or random act of violence, because you just can't feel safe anywhere.

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    Hi, ensht, and that you for your insights. From the first day I jumped on board here at the Holly thread, I was researching cases wherein the abduction victims survived:

    I've been posting articles throughout the Holly threads

    Elizabeth Shoaf (underground bunker)
    (here's the Dateline article, I posted a different one before)
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23522127...crime_reports/

    What Elizabeth Shoaf did:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in679837.shtml

    Ashley Smith (hostage)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in679837.shtml
    (article I put here before)

    Here are some more:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...olice-say.html

    (Then there is another story in SC about two 17 year old girls who were held in an underground bunker and escaped) I'll find that and post it as well.
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    The point is there have been some cases where they survived. We need to have hope and we need to learn.

    Thank you.

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    Roadblocks are common in an investigation. People are creatures of habit. They get up at the same time and drive to work along the same route. LE will do roadblocks in the same time frame and area that a crime occurred to see if anyone saw anything. LE used this tactic in Kyron's case as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    sbm

    2x when talking about her "brother" they showed a pix of Holly & B/F..It def gives the impression her B/F is brother Clint..Very BAD reporting! What else is new?
    LOL i know we have never seen a pic of the brother. I wonder why that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    On the 7th his 'license plate' was given to LE by a witness so what took so long (16th/17th?) to find & apprehend him?

    I suppose he could've been MIA due to kidnapping Holly on the 13th but that's still almost a whole week later so that doesn't quite jive..OTH! His MO is to stalk young women while they're shopping or just walking along so I guess we can't completely rule him out since he did actually follow one home to her dorm.
    he also has warrant in Dickson county for attempted kidnapping. He in jail now so we see if anything come out of this. The most interest to me he lives close to the search area. well his last address was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concentric View Post
    Hi, ensht, and that you for your insights. From the first day I jumped on board here at the Holly thread, I was researching cases wherein the abduction victims survived:

    Elizabeth Shoaf (underground bunker)
    (here's the Dateline article, I posted a different one before)
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23522127...crime_reports/

    What Elizabeth Shoaf did:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in679837.shtml

    Ashley Smith (hostage)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in679837.shtml
    (article I put here before)

    Here are some more:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...olice-say.html

    (Then there is another story in SC about two 17 year old girls who were held in an underground bunker and escaped) I'll find that and post it as well.
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    The point is there have been some cases where they survived. We need to have hope and we need to learn.

    Thank you.
    Don't forget Anne Sluti, she was kidnapped in April 2001 by a guy named Tony Zappa. He abducted her as she was getting into her car to leave the mall. He took her across state lines and she was able to leave clues as to where she was.

    A couple of the clues that I remember were:

    They were staying at a cabin (I think and she left her name in a book "Anne Was Here, 2001)

    Another Clue was that when he was sleeping, she turned up the radio so he would not hear her call 911.

    http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9927380

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    There was a hit and run a few months back. Sadly the pedestrian passed away. While witnesses were able to give a description of the vehicle, LE still didn't know where or who this person was. Using the creatures of habit approach, the next day LE waited at the scene for the hit and run driver to drive by on their way to work.

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    I can't imagine that anyone in this area with all of the coverage has not already thought about anything they may have seen...it seems as though the entire community is involved in searching, etc...not sure who they will come across in a roadblock that would have new information and I doubt the abductor will be passing by; he is either long gone, or laying low as much as possible.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvmua View Post
    Someone actually posted a link on facebook about that?

    That's just plain cruel. (even if they have not found her yet).
    You would vomit if ya saw what they have posted over there!

    But they want ppl to know not to open it or your puter will crash .

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    Just because she isn't a teenager, it doesn't mean she couldn't have been kidnapped and is being held somewhere. There are children who've been kidnapped and murdered, and there are also cases of adult women who've been kidnapped and made it out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishing4good View Post
    Authorities describe roadblocks as 'new tactic' http://bit.ly/eLRzje #hollybobo


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    What good could a road block 7 days later be? Whats the chance someone is driving around with evidence 7 days later?
    That makes no sense to me everything they are doing should have been done on day 1 last wed. JMO

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