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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I'm basically curious if he'd planned (in advance before killing Sheri) to kill all three of them or if killing the boys was an afterthought, so to speak. Hopefully Dr. Baden can shed some more light on it during his testimony. MOO


    Meanwhile, have a good night everyone!
    IMO, he planned to kill all three. That is the only solution that would have brought him the freedom he wanted. If the boys were still alive, he would still be bound by the fact of their being the very physical, tangible tie between him and Sheri.

    He bought the spray paint ahead of time. He wanted a vasectomy reversal and was house shopping with TL before the murders. He no more wanted his children than he wanted his life with Sheri, IMO.

    For every picture that we look at and think "how beautiful Sheri and Gavin and Garrett were," he looked at them and saw three roadblocks in the path of his future, supposedly better, life.
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    I remember something about video from the gym and Chris not staying at the gym long. I also remember that Detectives went to Gold's Gym and interviewed someone and that they did searches of the trash and dumpsters.
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    I saw where the neighbor's (Cop he called) had a video of CC leaving his house to go to gym?? Let me get it and link. Just read today from a link here.

    ETA http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2011/04/...filiate.98.pdf
    Justin Barlow, Columbia Police
    detective,

    His
    home surveillance
    video
    camera caught
    Chris Coleman
    leaving the
    house early the
    day the bodies were found.
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    looks like another casey anthony:

    he kept his head down, not looking at the photos but keeping notes.

    Read more: http://www.bnd.com/2011/04/25/168363...#ixzz1Kb2WSrGm

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    I finally found it - from a post in June 2009 by WRINKLES!!! I should have known you found this for us!! I'm reposting it because it has a lot of pertinent info. Thank you, Wrinkles!
    (Red highlight by me)

    "Fact: CC put himself at the house until 5:45AM (that is the time he gave)
    Fact: CC said his wife was alive when he left
    Fact: Video surveillance has him leaving the house at 5:43AM, has no other person coming or going (from its vantage point) before/after
    Fact: CC caught on gym surveillance 6:00AM
    Fact: CC was away from premises 1 hour 8 minutes, he returned 6:51AM
    Fact: CC had injury right forearm (abrasion/scratches), said he didn't know how he got it, then slammed arm against gurney, then told his father it was a gurney injury.
    Fact: Expert found victims to have died as early as 11PM May 4th, no later than 5:00AM May 5th (11 p.m. to 3 a.m., but possibly up to – but not after – 5 a.m.)
    Fact: At 6:51AM, full rigor mortis noted in one victim, also livor mortis (entire body locked, rigid, discolored). One victim algor mortis (cold). See facts on rigor, livor and algor mortis.
    Fact: Officers left water, grass clippings on floor from back window entry, they found no similar evidence of a previous entry.
    Fact: At the viewing of the bodies, CC gave off a very definite "smell" (vibe) to people who had previously known him, yet had never previously thought about him as possible perp.
    Fact: CC hired a defense attorney the day of the deaths.
    Fact: Funds for CC's defense were solicited at viewing of bodies and Coleman arranged funeral.
    Fact: So-called threat emailed Nov 14, 2008 emitted from CC's laptop/aircard.
    Fact: CC's girlfriend said CC and girlfriend had sexual relationship from Nov 2008 on.
    Fact: CC was having a text/video/porno/internet relationship with his girlfriend.
    Fact: CC and girlfriend met in Arizona and Hawaii (reported as trysts), planned cruise together in August, had credit card together, planned wedding in 2010.
    Fact: CC told girlfriend on May 4th, he was going to serve divorce papers May 5th.
    Fact: The misspelling of "at least" one particular word was found consistent in the so-called threats and CC's documents.
    Fact: There are many other facts which have been revealed, and many which we cannot yet know.

    Further facts:
    Fact: There has been no reward fund established by the CC family (parents, brothers, cousins -- actually anyone related, not anyone at all) to find the real killer.

    Additional facts:

    Fact: CC NEVER appeared on TV, nor was he heard on the radio asking and/or begging everyone to help find the person who murdered his wife and two children.
    Fact: CC NEVER established a reward fund to help find the person who murdered his wife and children, though he had plenty of time to do so before he was arrested.
    Fact: There is no information about CC taking a lie detector test on behalf of his loved ones and in hopes of getting LE directed toward a "real killer."

    Continuing facts:

    Fact: CC said he and Sheri had a good marriage with no problems. He said he and his wife sought counseling in 2008 and it helped.
    Fact: CC "originally said he talked to a friend of Sheri's in Florida. He said they talked about body parts, but nothing else. He said Sheri would not be happy."
    Fact: CC's girlfriend gave an anniversary date of November 5th -- which is prior to the first e-mail threat (which was on Nov. 14, 2008)
    Fact: CC and girlfriend were looking for homes and a job for the girlfriend in St. Louis.
    Fact: LE found no evidence of divorce papers intended for filing by CC on May 5th.
    Fact: CC installed surveillance cameras as a side business. He installed some inside his home (an LE neighbor worked with him). The week before the murders, CC told the neighbor LE he was waiting for a power source to activate his cameras, he was offered by the neighbor LE to call ISP to help get a power source. CC turned neighbor LE down. CC's cameras were operational and functional.
    Fact: May 1st, Coleman showed his surveillance equipment to a neighbor, it was all there at the time.
    Fact: Police asked "What can we do to find the killer?" CC responded, "I don't know. I guess you can look at my videos." Police checked and found the video recorder (DVR) gone (hookups were twist lock connections). The DVR was missing. LE found a faceplate for the same make/model DVR near the JB Bridge in the West bound lanes (route CC took to/from gym on May 5th). They found invoices for the DVR (company where Coleman did purchasing).

    WAIT HOLD ON... IN A PRELIM NEWS REPORTS...
    Gold's gym videos see CC entering/exiting bathroom but no other activity...

    Someone, please go to Gold's and find out what the videos would show, if someone were working out or just loitering there. Are we to think that these Gold's gyms videos only track bathroom attractions? If CC went to the gym that morning, did he just go to have a good bowel movement?
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    i asked this before somewhere but can't find my post. is this being streamed live online? tia

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    Quote Originally Posted by annalyzer View Post
    i asked this before somewhere but can't find my post. is this being streamed live online? tia
    Not that we're aware of. I don't think there are cameras in the courtroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    Not that we're aware of. I don't think there are cameras in the courtroom.
    i was reading elsewhere and they were talking about the long day of trial watching. but thanks. i'm glad i didn't miss anything live online

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    BTW, I'm moving the whole forum to "Trials" so hold on to your hats!

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    OOOOoooooohhhhh great gobbledeygoooooooks....

    I feel queasy.
    You can hold back from the suffering of the world. You have free permission to do so and it is in accordance with your nature.
    But perhaps this very holding back is the one suffering you could have avoided.
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  11. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by ynotdivein View Post
    OOOOoooooohhhhh great gobbledeygoooooooks....

    I feel queasy.
    I never moved a whole forum before. But it's a done deal now!

    Also, Sheri and the boys are featured on the front page.

    JUSTICE for Sheri, Garrett and Gavin!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I'm basically curious if he'd planned (in advance before killing Sheri) to kill all three of them or if killing the boys was an afterthought, so to speak. Hopefully Dr. Baden can shed some more light on it during his testimony. MOO


    Meanwhile, have a good night everyone!
    I wonder if it's possible that he didn't originally intend to kill the boys, but after he killed Sheri perhaps they woke up and caught him spray-painting the walls, thus leaving him "no choice."

  13. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by CCmakes3 View Post
    I wonder if it's possible that he didn't originally intend to kill the boys, but after he killed Sheri perhaps they woke up and caught him spray-painting the walls, thus leaving him "no choice."
    Evidence from the trial should probably answer that question for us. I sure hope they didn't know.

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