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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe42 View Post
    I believe what you do. My reason is because it would be ALOT easier for someone to spot her on the back of an ATV.
    This is what I have been wondering.
    Maybe someone with more experience with these vehicles in a hunting or farming setting can explain how he would have transported her via ATV.

    Would he have sat in the back, gun or weapon to her back and made her drive? That seems risky, they could see someone who knows her. She would stand out in her clothes compared to his camo.

    Is there a human size cargo box that attaches to the back of these? I just can't visualize how he would use an ATV. I'm hoping someone can explain that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad View Post
    I agree that is an underlying theme. I think that is the end game moment in his mind. He may just want to see how long he can keep the game going.
    Maybe he fancies himself in love with her and somehow thinks she might be in love with him too. By all accounts, she's a very sweet girl. Perhaps our guy read more into her friendliness than she ever intended. Maybe in his mind, if he can just get her alone, there's a chance she might realize that they were meant to be together.

    I know that sounds far fetched, but this just doesn't read like a sex offender/serial killer abduction to me. It reads more desperate/lovesick youth. (Unless, of course, Holly is no longer in that vehicle.)

    But like I said, you guys have all followed this case much more closely than I have. I'm probably talking out of my rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Won'tforgetusername View Post
    I was
    reading your posts last night and this morning and I have forgotten some of what I was going to say, but somewhere someone mentioned that they didn't think that there would be much tree trimming in April.... That is insignificant in those parts. I imagine that they do a lot of things like clearing lots for new construction, cutting
    trees that have fallen in all of these storms we have had,
    Etc.
    It isn't like tree trimming/landscaping like you would do in the suburbs
    There is also a very active logging/sawmill community in that area, all the way up to Pickwick Lake and beyond.
    Perhaps they also do that kind of work?
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    Has Holly's personality been talked about in a persuasive way? Being a nursing student you would think that she'd need to be very good with people and very sweet and understanding. Most people would panic in the situation and look for the quickest escape route before they're killed. I'm wondering if she's the kind of girl who is smart enough to try to bond with her abductor as she knows that they will be looking everywhere for her and if she can buy some time, she might be able to come out of this thing alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubbies2010 View Post
    This is what I have been wondering.
    Maybe someone with more experience with these vehicles in a hunting or farming setting can explain how he would have transported her via ATV.

    Would he have sat in the back, gun or weapon to her back and made her drive? That seems risky, they could see someone who knows her. She would stand out in her clothes compared to his camo.

    Is there a human size cargo box that attaches to the back of these? I just can't visualize how he would use an ATV. I'm hoping someone can explain that.
    Thanks!
    I really think there was NEVER an ATV involved. Just walking to edge of woods and getting in car/truck. Although not apparent looking at google earth, deer path type dirt roads will accomodate some vehicles (especially if you know where you are going and avoid ruts and ditches etc), a narrow and quiet small 4 wheel drive truck or small SUV would make a better getaway. ATV would be as loud as a scream through quiet morning woods and wouldnt make any sense. Also would be near impossible to balance her, all her stuff, etc. And I think the perp just threw her stuff out the window along the way to get rid of evidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubbies2010 View Post
    This is what I have been wondering.
    Maybe someone with more experience with these vehicles in a hunting or farming setting can explain how he would have transported her via ATV.

    Would he have sat in the back, gun or weapon to her back and made her drive? That seems risky, they could see someone who knows her. She would stand out in her clothes compared to his camo.

    Is there a human size cargo box that attaches to the back of these? I just can't visualize how he would use an ATV. I'm hoping someone can explain that.
    Thanks!
    I think they will find her near her home where she screamed! I dont think she was on an atv or put in a car i think she is still out there.
    Just like Kristie whos brother found her along the side of the road a year later not far from where she disappeared. the area was searched her cell was found but she wasnt. Her brother found her. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegallyBrown View Post
    I really think there was NEVER an ATV involved. Just walking to edge of woods and getting in car/truck. Although not apparent looking at google earth, deer path type dirt roads will accomodate some vehicles (especially if you know where you are going and avoid ruts and ditches etc), a narrow and quiet small 4 wheel drive truck or small SUV would make a better getaway. ATV would be as loud as a scream through quiet morning woods and wouldnt make any sense. Also would be near impossible to balance her, all her stuff, etc. And I think the perp just threw her stuff out the window along the way to get rid of evidence.
    Been my thinking for near two weeks now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capri View Post
    No problem. You are right, too. I am seriously questioning LE at this point & that must have come across to you, rightly so. I know, LE knows more than we do,I'm not doubting that. I'm just feeling the frustration of inconsistencies. I still hope for the best outcome, but starting to realize the best outcome is based on what's left, not some ideal version of Holly throwing breadcrumbs out the window for over a week.
    I completely understand your frustration. My daughter is also a 20 year old, blonde college student, and we live in the boonies, so Holly's disappearance has hit me where I live and the lack of information is maddening.

    Like you, although I would love to think Holly is outsmarting this jackalope who took her and, as you said, throwing breadcrumbs out the window, my heart is not telling me that.

    I am only about two hours away and have so much wanted to help search but I had surgery on both my feet several weeks ago and I can't wear anything like boots yet. So I'll keep praying they find this child and get her home. sigh....
    We will never forget the missing.

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    Searched off for the rest of the day and tomorrow because of weather

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    I think they will find her near her home where she screamed! I dont think she was on an atv or put in a car i think she is still out there.
    Just like Kristie whos brother found her along the side of the road a year later not far from where she disappeared. the area was searched her cell was found but she wasnt. Her brother found her. JMO
    I think that's a very strong possibility. But I sure hope that's not the case.
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    Volunteer: fairgrounds command center is closing for today and Tuesday. Future plans have not officially been released.
    http://twitter.com/#!/willnunley


    Source: organized public searches expected to stop during severe weather threat.
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    This bee my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    To our local friends
    How unusual would an ATV at 7 am be in that area?
    I know of areas where it wouldn't stand out at all as everyone has one and uses them to go feed their horses, check their property, put mail in the box, etc.... But what's the case in that area?
    It would not be unusual on your OWN land if you are hunting (at 7am) or just riding for fun. HOWEVER country landowners are always KEENLY aware of sounds of OTHER ATV'S on THEIR LAND. You really dont want people hunting there or even being there without permission! We have land and if I hear a neighbor riding there anytime of day my husband & I always comment and lay eyes on them to see if they are damaging the land, what they are doing there, etc. We love our neighbors but also love our land.

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    Did HLN have any more information - I am in MI & missed it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    I think that's a very strong possibility. But I sure hope that's not the case.
    Does anyone have a link to the case referenced? The one where the brother did his own research and was able to best guess where she was based on the cell? Just wondering why law enforcement wasn't able to do that in that case.

    Depressed that volunteer searches are off for two days. Same old same old with this case. What seems like a hot lead is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    Ok, so I need to grab some coffee. I found it. It wasn't in the article it's in their twitter feed. It is from a reporter of

    http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/subindex/video/myfoxbuzz

    GCoy1 Greg Coy
    Volunteers tell FOX13's Earle Farrell significant piece eevidence in Holly Bobo case is cell phone. Earle waiting to hear from authorities.
    Interesting. I believe if it was her cell phone, they wouldn't put any question on whether or not it belonged to Holly. Why do they need to complicate the information that they are providing?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSleuth View Post
    Is anyone else surprised the volunteers haven't leaked info?
    I agree. These searchers are a bit higher scale than the searchers in the Hailey Dunn case. They fight and bicker all day long there!


    Quote Originally Posted by TopTop View Post
    I have followed a few cases in the past but many of you are much more experienced.

    What are your theories for LE not providing any information at all. I understand not sharing all of the information but virtually none?? Other than the lunchbox we don't really know anything at all. Why did they tell us about the lunchbox?
    I think that we are dealing with a different type of LE agency here. This is not a local LE agency with a “spokesperson” talking daily. This is the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations. I think personally that they operate differently and likely have a different set of rules than a local agency. I think that could account for the secrecy. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHARLISA View Post
    Did HLN have any more information - I am in MI & missed it
    nope... old news
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    I am sure this is just my mind rambling on another endless possibility at this point, but I was thinking perhaps someone the brother knows could be responsible, not necessarily a good friend, but maybe former high school acquaintance or something(i.e. football team, or someone in a group of hunting buddies), someone who could have known her without really knowing her for sometime...another thought I had recently was that it could be someone who has an elderly parent they take care of, like a 35+ year old male who lives with an aging parent who needs care, and would be unaware that someone is being held captive in their house due to being bedridden, or incapacitated in some degree. They could still possibly supply an alibi, but it could be inaccurate. JMO of course....I just hope she is found soon!

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    Wouldn't she have had her keys in her hand? Why weren't they dropped if she was accosted suddenly? None of this makes sense.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    I think they will find her near her home where she screamed! I dont think she was on an atv or put in a car i think she is still out there.
    Just like Kristie whos brother found her along the side of the road a year later not far from where she disappeared. the area was searched her cell was found but she wasnt. Her brother found her. JMO
    That is my first thought as well. I suspected he plan to assault her in the house and that got moved to the woods. I was concerned that they moved the searches away from her home so quickly. At this point, I am assuming the searches around her house have been thorough, even the water.

    If they did find her phone yesterday, it does give hope the perp is playing a game and has her alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    Volunteer: fairgrounds command center is closing for today and Tuesday. Future plans have not officially been released.
    http://twitter.com/#!/willnunley


    Source: organized public searches expected to stop during severe weather threat.
    http://twitter.com/#!/willnunley

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    Searches called off at least until Wednesday tells me not exactly hot on a trail, storm or no storm, just my opinion, obviously...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensht View Post
    Does anyone have a link to the case referenced? The one where the brother did his own research and was able to best guess where she was based on the cell? Just wondering why law enforcement wasn't able to do that in that case.

    Depressed that volunteer searches are off for two days. Same old same old with this case. What seems like a hot lead is nothing.
    It was the Kristi Cornwell case in GA & her brother didn't find the remains until 1 1/2 yrs later - he never gave up looking tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad View Post
    That is my first thought as well. I suspected he plan to assault her in the house and that got moved to the woods. I was concerned that they moved the searches away from her home so quickly. At this point, I am assuming the searches around her house have been thorough, even the water.

    If they did find her phone yesterday, it does give hope the perp is playing a game and has her alive.
    If the phone had been there a while, it doesn't really say much. Depends if it looked as though it was just thrown there? And I can't even drop any phone I have had on my carpet without it coming apart...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHARLISA View Post
    Did HLN have any more information - I am in MI & missed it
    That LE found something else but, aint telling what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Searches called off at least until Wednesday tells me not exactly hot on a trail, storm or no storm, just my opinion, obviously...
    Well not necessarily. Its not like they are trying to search the wilds of Alaska. If masses of searchers have covered the ground over a two week period... then that could be all thats needed. Before it was mentioned that it was not that LE was not going to search... just masses of volunteers were not needed. IF they arent searching it can be they know where to look elsewhere (in town?)
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