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    TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #16

    Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen early on the morning of April 13, 2011, outside of her home in Darden, Tennessee. She was seen being led away from the carport of her home toward a wooded area by a man described as approximately 5'8" to 6'0" tall and 200 pounds, wearing camouflage clothing.
    Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen wearing a pink shirt and light blue jeans.
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    RE ESN#

    I have an iphone, and can't get to the battery. How do you find an ESN# on that phone? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anadarko View Post
    RE ESN#

    I have an iphone, and can't get to the battery. How do you find an ESN# on that phone? Just curious.

    TIA
    It can be found on the About screen, if the device is on.

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    Abigail Hernandez, Key Points Map ~ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44....78&form=LMLTCC

    Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook ~ https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...406effc9c7306f

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    Hailey Owens & Possible Connected Cases ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...788f1c66&msa=0

    Holly Bobo ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...184749,0.31414

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anadarko View Post
    RE ESN#

    I have an iphone, and can't get to the battery. How do you find an ESN# on that phone? Just curious.

    TIA
    Try going to settings, phone info, build info, it will be the DEC/ESN number...If this doesn't work call customer service of your provider and request it. Hope this helps.

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    I've seen it reported that there are currently 3 command posts set up for searches. Does anyone know where these command posts are located, so that I can add them to the map?

    The information contained in the maps below are my interpretation of locations, based on MSM and input from others. They are meant solely as a guide and are not to be taken as fact.

    Possible Victims of Lloyd Lee Welch Jr ~ https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...01105,0.019634

    Abigail Hernandez, Full Map ~ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44....13&form=LMLTCC

    Abigail Hernandez, Key Points Map ~ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44....78&form=LMLTCC

    Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook ~ https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...406effc9c7306f

    Hailey Dunn ~ http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...30243,0.038581

    Hailey Owens & Possible Connected Cases ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...788f1c66&msa=0

    Holly Bobo ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...184749,0.31414

    Relisha Rudd ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...3bc4b55d&msa=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollye View Post
    I've seen it reported that there are currently 3 command posts set up for searches. Does anyone know where these command posts are located, so that I can add them to the map?
    You have the fairgrounds marked.
    The first one was Bear Creek Baptist Church.
    I believe there was one at Bible Hill Baptist Church as well.
    There was also one at Yellow Springs Baptist Church. I think it was Baptist. It may be a Methodist church. One of the 2 for sure.
    And one at Natchez Trace State Park. I don't know which 3 it is talking about??? But I had also heard the number 3.

    With that being said you always had to sign in at the Fairgrounds first before going to any other place. (It was only at Bear Creek a couple of days)
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    Quote Originally Posted by greengreen View Post
    You have the fairgrounds marked.
    The first one was Bear Creek Baptist Church.
    I believe there was one at Bible Hill Baptist Church as well.
    There was also one at Yellow Springs Baptist Church. I think it was Baptist. It may be a Methodist church. One of the 2 for sure.
    And one at Natchez Trace State Park. I don't know which 3 it is talking about??? But I had also heard the number 3.

    With that being said you always had to sign in at the Fairgrounds first before going to any other place. (It was only at Bear Creek a couple of days)
    I don't have a problem with the general public knowing where the search stations are, however IMO, they shouldn't be broadcasting where the searches are taking place. This is giving the perp way too much info as to how the investigation is going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHARLISA View Post
    I don't have a problem with the general public knowing where the search stations are, however IMO, they shouldn't be broadcasting where the searches are taking place. This is giving the perp way too much info as to how the investigation is going.
    However, that could be the entire point. If LE feels the perp is purposefully planting evidence, part of the local community, and maybe taking part of the search, maybe there is a method to their madness. They could be separating searches to narrow down where the planted evidence gets placed (that eliminates the other two search parties, right?) or to lure him to these three different areas to attempt to plant evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengreen View Post
    You have the fairgrounds marked.
    The first one was Bear Creek Baptist Church.
    I believe there was one at Bible Hill Baptist Church as well.
    There was also one at Yellow Springs Baptist Church. I think it was Baptist. It may be a Methodist church. One of the 2 for sure.
    And one at Natchez Trace State Park. I don't know which 3 it is talking about??? But I had also heard the number 3.

    With that being said you always had to sign in at the Fairgrounds first before going to any other place. (It was only at Bear Creek a couple of days)
    Thanks greengreen! I got them added. Is the one at Bible Hill still there? After the fairgrounds, that was the first one that they headed out to on the 15th.

    The information contained in the maps below are my interpretation of locations, based on MSM and input from others. They are meant solely as a guide and are not to be taken as fact.

    Possible Victims of Lloyd Lee Welch Jr ~ https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...01105,0.019634

    Abigail Hernandez, Full Map ~ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44....13&form=LMLTCC

    Abigail Hernandez, Key Points Map ~ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44....78&form=LMLTCC

    Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook ~ https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...406effc9c7306f

    Hailey Dunn ~ http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...30243,0.038581

    Hailey Owens & Possible Connected Cases ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...788f1c66&msa=0

    Holly Bobo ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...184749,0.31414

    Relisha Rudd ~ https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...3bc4b55d&msa=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollye View Post
    Thanks greengreen! I got them added. Is the one at Bible Hill still there? After the fairgrounds, that was the first one that they headed out to on the 15th.
    I don't think any of them are still there. Everything has shut down for the weather.

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    SuzieQ, got it, wasn't sure if it was only the first part that was IMO which is why I asked.

    I think the only significant item would be the cell phone. The chances of there being a note or anything like that, that survived the weather is slim to none IMO.

    Incidentally with or without a SIM as reported today...LE already knows who she called or texted that day. They have the records of the cell provider I'd be almost sure. The only thing they wouldn't have is notes she may have left on the phone herself OR the tracking data files put there by the Droid or Apple IOS as we just found out last week. She may not have one of these phones or it may be an older version and in that case, or the case of a battery faling etc...it may not be much more useful than what they already have.

    Again though this begs the question....why would anyone dump this stuff in the first place? It makes no sense. Even more surprising would be searches finding this by total chance at a random location. Someone must have provided a tip that was very specific which would mean someone knew it was there.

    None of this makes any sense to me.

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    Yellow Springs is a Methodist church.

    http://decaturcountytennessee.org/in...directory.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Yellow Springs is a Methodist church.

    http://decaturcountytennessee.org/in...directory.html
    Thanks! Couldn't remember.

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    This may have been posted on the previous thread.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/25/...missing.woman/

    Nothing new that hasn't been talked about here today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    This may have been posted on the previous thread.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/25/...missing.woman/

    Nothing new that hasn't been talked about here today.
    oh dear. no video on that ... like clu, I was trying to find a link with video...
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    The phone ... the phone may have been found, and perhaps it had a picture of Holly taken several days after her abduction. A wild speculation to be sure, but at this point, if the perp is planting evidence or clues to taunt LE or to throw them off, this would be a very diabolical move -- to let them know she's still alive, that he's not caught, that he's smarter than LE and all of their resources.

    In no way do I believe this was found, but I put myself in the place of a real twisted, sick, Sociopath, and I find I am beginning to think this way.

    I still believe that she is alive, stashed in a remote cabin somewhere, and is held captive as someone's 'prize.'
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    Did anyone have a quote that indicated that Holly was likely to be alive, from whatever was most recently found? I had not seen anything like that, only that her family was relieved that the item was found, and that LE felt it might lead to a breakthrough.

    I gathered that they were glad something new was found partly because the search was starting to be in the winding down stage and it gave it new life, and also because it could lead to more clues, but I have read a lot of posts that thought it indicated she was alive and wondered if I missed a video, thanks.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Did anyone have a quote that indicated that Holly was likely to be alive, from whatever was most recently found? I had not seen anything like that, only that her family was relieved that the item was found, and that LE felt it might lead to a breakthrough.

    I gathered that they were glad something new was found partly because the search was starting to be in the winding down stage and it gave it new life, and also because it could lead to more clues, but I have read a lot of posts that thought it indicated she was alive and wondered if I missed a video, thanks.
    For my part, I didn't mean to imply that the article indicated she might be alive. Rather, I meant that I can't imagine finding certain items would make the family "hopeful." Pieces of her clothing, for example, would likely not be considered a "gamechanger," (in other words, something that would make them hopeful she'd be found.) An empty wallet, articles of clothing, shoes, pieces of hair, all these probably would not make the family or LE "hopeful," they'd merely be additional pieces of evidence. JMO

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    Is it possible that the "significant item" found, and that gave hope to the searchers and family, is an actual note or signal from Holly herself?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Is it possible that the "significant item" found, and that gave hope to the searchers and family, is an actual note or signal from Holly herself?
    I'm certainly hoping it was something that contained a note or message of some type!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengreen View Post
    I'm certainly hoping it was something that contained a note or message of some type!
    I just remember them having seachers peering so close to the ground...they were looking for something very small. I'd be very surprised if it was something FROM Holly, rather than of Holly.

    Also, from what others have said about the CNN interview, the reporter said "game changer" and the LE rep sort of agreed. It was not his phrase, FWIW.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I just remember them having seachers peering so close to the ground...they were looking for something very small. I'd be very surprised if it was something FROM Holly, rather than of Holly.
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    clu..Did you notice there was a man on his hands&knees searching with the others & he was the ONLY one without GLOVES on? I couldn't believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I just remember them having seachers peering so close to the ground...they were looking for something very small. I'd be very surprised if it was something FROM Holly, rather than of Holly.

    Also, from what others have said about the CNN interview, the reporter said "game changer" and the LE rep sort of agreed. It was not his phrase, FWIW.
    It sounds like LE got the tip the phone was right in the area where it was found.....fairly quickly sounds like. It may have had one of the bright colored, protective, plastic cases on it and was easily & quickly spotted once they'd received the info where to find it.

    As far as the searchers being on their hands and knees searching.....I agree, they were looking for something very small.......perhaps the SIM card to the phone? The tipster may have told them where the phone was and that the SIM card was thrown 500 yards (just an example) from the phone.

    I also think the tipster may have told them about other items that were thrown out near the school and that's why they had searchers rushed to that location as well. The tipster knows "something" to have been able to direct them so precisely to the phone. I wonder why the tipster waited so long to call in the tip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmoo View Post
    It sounds like LE got the tip the phone was right in the area where it was found.....fairly quickly sounds like. It may have had one of the bright colored, protective, plastic cases on it and was easily & quickly spotted once they'd received the info where to find it.

    As far as the searchers being on their hands and knees searching.....I agree, they were looking for something very small.......perhaps the SIM card to the phone? The tipster may have told them where the phone was and that the SIM card was thrown 500 yards (just an example) from the phone.

    I also think the tipster may have told them about other items that were thrown out near the school and that's why they had searchers rushed to that location as well. The tipster knows "something" to have been able to direct them so precisely to the phone. I wonder why the tipster waited so long to call in the tip?

    This is my exact understanding (above).

    I think LE knows exactly who did this. I think the family probably knows too. I think the only unknown is where is she. I suspect and again MY OPINION is that LE and family even know what the deal is in terms of why it was done in the mind of this person. It's a matter of getting a conviction/execution hopefully when the time comes. This is someone that's watched too many CSI type shows growing up and thinks they can outsmart LE without having any idea they've probably been watching all along. My belief on the tip is it either came from the perp or someone very close. I don't think this was a random find. Someone putting it there probably thought they'd throw off LE because of either: the people near there that own the plant, the fathers old place of work and school. I think they are 100% right in suggesting the leaks stop because the dirtbag is likely reading online.

    My gut tells me we're all going to be absolutely disgusted when/if we ever get the "reason" for all of this. Not to say any of these crimes have a good reason but I just have that feeling this one will strike at the core for a lot of us.

    I'm not an eye for an eye type of person but if the worst is realized I'm glad TN has the death penalty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Is it possible that the "significant item" found, and that gave hope to the searchers and family, is an actual note or signal from Holly herself?

    I wouldn't trust a note cos how would they know WHO wrote it? Even if mom or someone else can recognize it as her handwriting it may have been done under duress & is simply a ruse..Also, if it truly is her handwriting that only proves she was still alive but only at the time it was written which was when exactly? That's another problem.

    What kind of signal?
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